Contents

Letter from Gandini dd (20-jul-98)
Letter from Sairsi dd (1-aug-98)
Letter from Brahmananda Puri das (02-aug-98)
Letter from Kamalamala das: (3-aug-98)
Letter from Kamalamala das (11-aug-98)
Letter from Sannyasa das (11-aug-98)
Letter from Sannyasa das (11-aug-98)
Letter from Hararata dd (12-aug-98)
Letter from Kamalamala das: (12-aug-98)
Letter from Sivatma das (12-aug-98)
Letter from Brahmananda Puri das: (12-aug-98)
Letter from Sannyasa das (14-aug-98)
Letter from S-Petersburg yatra: (14-aug-98)
Letter from Mahasaya das: (14-aug-98)
Letter from Moscow SV disciples (15-aug-98)
Letter from Nidhi Varji das (Los-Angeles) (15-aug-98)
Letter from Bhaktivinoda Thakura (16-aug-98)
Letter from Sannyasa das: (19-aug-98)
Letter from Moscow SV disciples (22-aug-98)
Letter from Kamalamala das to offenders of Sri Visnupada in COM (07-sep-98)

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Letter from Gandini dd (20-jul-98)



Dear Godsisters and God brothers, I want to share with you this letter that I recieved from Hridayananda Das Goswami regarding Sri Visnupada_s condition. I though that Some of you will like to hear his comments. your servant Gandinidd

>From [email protected] Mon Jul 20 08:27:19 1998

>Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:24:51 EDT
>To: [email protected]

>Subject: Re: Re: Statement by the ISKCON Governing Body Commission

>
>Dear Srimati Gandini Devi Dasi,
>Please accept my blessings. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. Thank you
for
>your letter. I will share with you my own realizations regarding the
condition
>of Srila Vishnupada:
> This health problem is clearly the protection of Lord Krishna. Vishnupada has
>rendered so much wonderful service to Srila Prabhupada that he is eternally
>very dear to Lord Krishna. Vishnupada wants very much to establish Varnashrama
>dharma. This means that as a sannyasi he himself would have to give up a
>lifestyle that was exhausting, and also involved so much management, beyond
>what a sannyasi normally accepts. Vishnupada took on this service because of
>his intense desire to establish Krishna consciousness, but now Lord Krishna is
>giving him His mercy by removing him from that situation.
> All of Vishnupada's disciples have been begging him for years to change his
>lifestyle, to rest. Lord Krishna has heard their prayers and has made this
>arrangement. I am confident that Vishnupada will recover his health, and will
>increase his service by focusing more on preaching and writing. All of us, at
>times, because of illness, show symptoms of mental instability. This was even
>seen in Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Vishnupada continues to be sinless, and fully
>surrendered to the lotus feet of Srila Prabhupada. His condition is proof of
>the Lord's mercy, as an intelligent Vaishnava can clearly see.
>Hoping you are well,
>Hridayananda das Goswami
>

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Letter from Sairsi dd (1-aug-98)

please accept my humble obeisances, 
all glories to Sri Visnupada. 

This morning Sri Visnupada came to visit Sri Sri Radha Madan Mohan and Srila 
Prabhupada.He was standing in deep contemplation before Srila Prabhupada 
for a long time and then offered his dandavats to Their Lordships for at 
least 5-10 min. 
Then he kneeled in front of the altar until he collapsed on the floor. 
We rushed to him and didn?t know what to do because it seemed that he was 
stopping to breathe and starring lifelessly. So we started to chant kirtan 
and he said: "Yes, loudly!" They called the ambulance. 
As we continued to chant, Sri Visnupada came back to life and had different 
emotional reactions. He mostly cried and moaned,saying things like " Mother 
please forgive me, I love you." It was as if he could release his tensions 
through our chanting. Then 3 devotees started to massage his legs. One of 
his Godbrothers, I think his name is Abhirama Prabhu, was holding him in his 
lap, caressing him and massaging his heart region. About 5 of us were around 
him,massaging and chanting. Sri Visnupada was also sometimes chanting with 
us, sometimes crying and shouting "Jaya Radhe". 
After a while he could more and more relax and had a happy smile on his 
face. He looked like a little child. Then 4 men carried him into the van to 
drive him back. 

Please let us all continue to pray for him and send lots of love and 
wellwishing thoughts, despite all doubts, fears and anxieties.He needs us 
more than ever. 

your servant Sairsi dd 
 

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Letter from Brahmananda Puri das (02-aug-98)

Dear godbropthers and Godsisters, Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Sri Visnupada!
  I'm asking you to forgive me for bypassing this SV Disciples conference because I'm considering this conference to be absolutely useless and because this conference is closed for objective opinions that other devotees may have. And some persons who are very interested in their provocative intensions to control the situation - they established the censorship and one mataji has to read out and to decide which letter should be allowed and which should not be allowed to the conference. And I think that this censorship is absolutely unacceptable and devotees have to have the freedom of speech to give their opinions - this will be a normal conference.
  It is already for one week that I'm trying to send my letter to this conference, this letter I was sending with the aim for all of you to express your opinions on the subject matter - the reason is that during the last week I was closely associating with Sri Visnupada.
  I'm consider this situation as absolute absurd and this censorship should be removed so that devotees would have the opportunity to give their opinion and an opportunity to get objective information. This is my opinion.
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  Considering the situation of our spiritual master in regard of his health, his mental condition, I'd like to share with you my understanding and realisations. FOr the last week I was near Sri Visnupada in Abethauer and had a lot of association with him.
  First of all I'd like to say that I would not dare to discuss a pure devotee, his acts and his plans, because it is very difficult to do it properly. One has to be at least on the same level as him to undersrtand him. It is a very dangerous business, because one can easily commit an offense of his lotus feet and fall down. However watching the letter exchange in this conference I dared to share with you my understanding to help you to become more patient and strengthen your faith in Spiritual Master and to become more cautious to avoid further offences of his lotus feet.
  When I asked Sri Visnupada personally about it- how to avoid offences, his reply was, "The best is not to discuss something which is beyond you". But in this critical hour when the material energy is testing our faith in spiritual master, I decided to write this letter to help you to avoid doubts and confusion. Please believe me, I am not just speaking something to pacify you - this is all coming straight from my heart. If you placed Sri Visnupada in your heart sincerely without any material motivations, then he must be deeply rooted in it and it will be very difficult to uproot him from your heart. He will live in your heart forever. But if you placed him just because of some mere sentiment, then it will be very easy to throw him away from your heart. He won't live in such heart. And this is the test of the material energy we are undergoing. It is something like a mirror, so that we could see our reflection in it and could become honest with ourselves. When I recall our last meeting, I clearly understand that he is totally on the transcendental platform and spiritually very powerful.
  Actually Sri Visnupad is very weak phisically. For the last 20 years he was working to death for his disciples and the whole of ISKCON. He did not do anything for himself personally. He was doing everything for our well- being. He gave us all facilities for devotional service, and he was tryong to improve our whole movement. And now we are so cruel to him and throwing dirt at him. The only thing he needs is our love towards him. This will help him to get strength as soon as possible. But if we continue to throw dirt at him, we will cause our own destruction.
  Recently he made a medical check up, and doctors found an old hepatitus which surfaced again. It is quite severe now, but all these diseases cannot prevent him from being on highest spiritual level which is far beyond of our understanding. We were walking together chanting japa few days ago when he suddenly wanted to see the Deities. We went to the temple, he could hardly stand before the Deities, but it was quite clear that he was speaking with the Deities. All of sudden he broke in tears and he lost consciousness. FOr 20 minutes he was without consciousness. I felt that he was beyond this world, that he was somewhere in different dimention and tha he was totally blissfull. Unfortunately my perception is very limited and I can't see what is happening on other planes, but I 100% sure that it was not material emotions.
  In our conversations he told me that it was very tough for him in this body and at one moment he just practically left his body, but because his disciples called him back, he returned. He returned to live with us, because we wanted it, but what did he see? OUr cruelty. SOme treated him like an ordinary patient, others thought that he has gone mad and wanted to bring him to a mental hospital. Yet others manifested their cruelty by declaring that he had a childhood trauma. Everyone was speculating wildly. We have to understand that the material body will always suffer, no matter who it was, a small ant or Lord Brahma, but the essence is not in the material body, but in the soul proper, so why should we discuss this on such low material level and try to find material explanations. We have to understand that no matter what material problems Sri Visnupad's body will undergo, he is still a very elevated spiritual personality, one of the dearest servants of Lord Krsna and Srila Prabhupada, and whatever he does, he does it for Their pleasure. We have to understand that Sri Visnupada is a person, not just an image or a material body. We should not forget that he suffers for our sins which he so kindly takes upon himself. But what is our thankfulness? And what do we intend to do? To inflict pain upon him even more? DO you get pleasure out of it? Please stop, and think seriously. If you want him to live in our family and continue to take care of us (you should understand that no matter how powerful you are, without him you are just lost insignificant beings) for yoru own sake you should take care of him and protect him. Now he needs only our love, and our love will help him to recuperate quickly. Please stop doubting, give your love to one who has a pure love towards Radha and Krsna, and in this way you will develop the same love in yourself. And only this love will help him to stay with us.
  Please don't forget that this is some kind of test of your faith in your spiritual master.
  Your servant, Brahmananda Puri das
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Letter from Kamalamala das: (3-aug-98)

Dear Brothers and Sisters, PAMHO. AGTSV. 

I decided to write this comment on the BTS report, since I feel 
that his report is not at all objective and it can twist the real 
uderstanding of what is going on and, more than that, it can block of 
understanding the message and instruction that Sri Visnupad and Lord Sri 
Krsna are trying to give to all of us. 

BTS''s report sounds as if Sri Visnupad just felt into some difficult 
mental situation and as he would need some help from some psichologist. 
But this is not true. Dear Brothers and Sisters, sometimes we devotees think 
that if somebody is a Maharaja then he has all siddhis, that he is the one 
who is perfect in all aspects of life, that he is the perfect psychologist, 
manager, cook, computerman, etc. but it is abviously not so. 

If one is accepting sannyas it only means that he wants to become more 
renounced than others. Of course he can have more spiritrual realisations 
than others but even that is not a fact. Sometimes some grihasthas are more 
spitually advanced than some maharajas. 

That is why it is completely wrong to base one's understanding on 
such a difficult subject as psihology is, on BTS's explanation, especially 
when we have to deal with such a special and highly elevated soul as Sri 
Visnupad. 

Do you think that by psychological instrument it is possible to understand 
what Krsna wants and what wants so highly elevated spiritual personality as 
Sri Visnupad? All this explanation /I mean BTS's and others'/ makes 
everything so cheap and mundane. For me it sound complitly bogus. 
All this explanations only showing the person's subjective understanding of 
spiritual personality. 

I can understand that how difficult for a godbrother to think in the other 
way since for godbrother it is very difficult to imagine that the other 
godbrother is on the much hihger level than he. That is why I am not blaming 
BTS because of his understanding, but I am not definitely satisfied that he 
is presenting his observation as absolute truth to others. It is too risky, 
what if he is wrong then it means that he misled the disciples of his 
godbrothers and all ISKCON, and he is wrong. 

Dear Godbrothers and Godsisters I with Sannyas das and Brahmananda Puri das 
had several meetings with Sri Visnupad and Sri Visnupad told us how we 
should understand all which is going on. 

Sri Visnupad told us that He is completely dissatisfied with present 
management of ISKCON and that there must be big changes in ISKCON, otherwise 
ISKCON doesn't have future. 

And all which He is doing and all His sufferings are only because of this 
reason.  It is complitly obvious that Sri Visnupad sacrificed everything -- 
all His glories, all His health and even His life for this reason. 
Sri Visnupad wanted to feel all the feelings what felt by one who is by some 
reason rejected by ISKCON. 

About marriage, Sri Visnupad have no any intention to marry, when we 
spoke about it He was laughing. 

Dear brothers if You know Sri Visnupad, He was most selfcontroled 
person in the whole ISKCON, believe me He didn't change at all in this 
regard, but definitely He wants to teach something to us and not only to us 
but to all Maharajas and all ISKCON. Think about it and You will understand. 

Dear Brothers and Sisters why we should not believe to our Spiritual 
Master, why we should speculate and believe others. Do You think that it is 
so easy to understand what Spiritual Master doing? 

Sri Visnupad told us that He is feeling all what felt by all the devotees 
who left ISKCON in these 20 years -- ordinary devotees, children, and even 
Maharajas. You cannot emagine what difficulties had the devotees when they 
were forced to leave ISKON because of heartless management. 

Sri Visnupad was so much concerned about that that He told us that He 
doesn't care about buildings and other things anymore. What is the use of 
evrything if devotees are suffering and not satisfied and not properly 
engaged. For whom we are making all this buildings? 

And He told us that the main problems is because the ones who are arthas and 
artharthas are dominating in our mowment, and also in bad managment of 
ISKCON. Dear Godbrothers and Godsisters please don't try to understand 
everything so cheaply, please trust our beloved Spiritual Master and try to 
understand what He wants from us. He definitely knows what He is doing. 
He definitely wants to give some lessons for all ISKCON. And we alwready can 
understand something, we can see from what happened, that some devotees were 
so envious towards their own Spiritual Master. This envy was covered and in 
this situation it became manefested. 

But it is only one lesson. Very soon we will get many other important 
lessons. Sri Visnupad will show the real diseases of our mowment and give 
many other important lessons. As a great physician He wants to cure  the 
disease of our movement. And for this he is ready to sacrifice everything, 
including his life. 

And let the envious people to choose their way. 

Sri Visnupad told us that some thinks that He is insane, but He told that in 
reality they are really insane themselfs. Yes one must be insane to not see 
the problems of our movement. 

Dear Brothers and Sisters, I am ending my such a long letter. I hope 
that my letter will help many of you to proparly understand the situation 
and keep your faith in our Most Wonderful Spiritual Master. For properly 
understanding the situation I will recomend to read Padmanabha's 
and Gurusakti prabhu's letter, it is the only letter which is completely 
objective. 

Please write if You have questions. 

Y.S. 

P.S. My disagreement with BTS doesn't mean that I am against him as person, 
I am just against his explanation. I hope that you will understand it 
properly. 

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Letter from Kamalamala das (11-aug-98)

Dear Godbrothers and Godsisters,
 
  I decided to write you this letter since many of you, I think, are bewildered by information which is coming from different sources about what is happening with Sri Visnupad, about Sri Visnupada's condition. Before beginning this issue I want a little bit remind you the prehistory of the nowadays events.
 
  Without any doubts all of you appreciate SRI VISNUPAD as the most wonderful person in our movement. Indeed he has done so much for ISKCON that his credits are not possible even to estimate. First of all, without any rest during all these years after Srila Prabhupada's leaving his body SRI VISNUPAD was producing hundreds of millions Srila Prabhupada's books on more than 70 languages. He organized the biggest BBT in the world, NE-BBT, and Russian BBT. SRI VISNUPAD organized and inspired the sankirtana movement in the Europe and also he inspired sankirtana in the rest of the world. SRI VISNUPAD led the Mayapur project and actually he organized the project, structured it and is the heart of the project. He was struggling so much to make it reality and actually the beginning is already there. Due to him this project sounds like reality nowadays. Besides all this SRI VISNUPAD is also leading the educational program in ISKCON, and more than that he was giving all this amazing classes and by his care there are so many wonderful preachers appeared in ISKCON. SRI VISNUPAD also found the Gauranga Bhajan Band Group - the Festival preaching which is amazing page in the history of ISKCON. More than this all, SRI VISNUPAD made this wonderful communication system which incredibly helped to manage our huge society all over the world. He was financing so many other projects; he found so many temples in Eastern Europe and former USSR. He is writing wonderful music and songs and giving shelter to thousands of devotees all over the world. It is very hard to estimate the credits of SRI VISNUPAD. Every second of his life is engaged in the service of SRILA Prabhupada and Sri Sri Radha-Madana-Mohana.
 
  The most wonderful achievement of SRI VISNUPAD is that by the Lord's mercy he got pure love of Godhead, pure prema and achieved the highest platform of self-realization. SRI VISNUPAD actually fulfilled all SRILA Prabhupada's desires excluding establishing varnasrama dharma in ISKCON. It is very difficult to reveal all achievements of SRI VISNUPAD. But that which we already know is enough to understand what incredible personality he is. All these years he has been very hardly working to accomplish all above-mentioned projects. And also he has been taking care about thousands of his disciples.
 
  Simultaneously he sacrificed all his health for these purposes. This year, after SRI VISNUPAD was elected as the GBC chairman, he took on his shoulders all burden of ISKCON problems all over the world. This appointment of SRI VISNUPAD as GBC chairman was a great hope for our society that he would be able to introduce the varnasrama dharma in ISKCON. Actually it is the most important issue for our society nowadays. The cruel reality is so that many devotees in our society are not properly situated and they don't know what kind of qualities they should develop. ISKCON now is a big organization not with the best and self-sufficient economy. In no organization it is possible to take complete care about its members. It can't be continued to be organization; it must become a society. We should understand that it is very urgent. Devotees become older, make families which is natural and organization must take care about these families, which is practically impossible and not natural. That's why we have a lot of grihasthas, which depend on our organization, but in reality our society should depend on grihasthas. ISKCON can't take care of grihasthas and as the result of that grihasthas forced to go away from ISKCON and have a hard struggle for existence. Since devotees spend the best time of their life for ISKCON and didn't develop any qualification for living in the material world and since they were completely dependant on ISKCON and after making family being forced to go out of temple they becoming completely frustrated and even becomes evil-minded towards ISKCON. That is why our society needs varnasrama ASAP. When we met SRI VISNUPAD he told us that he is interested more than anything else in education and taking care about the devotees which means establishing varnasrama dharma. He said that he doesn't care about the buildings. What is the use of the buildings if we don't take care about our devotees? As I understood he by all means wants to turn attention of our movement to this points. But since the task was so incredibly difficult and since he was overburdened by so many projects that he was overseeing, on 2nd of July he had a collapse and because of that he even left his body. SRI VISNUPAD told us how painful and difficult it was. He told that only because of his servant's (Kasiraja's) love and all devotees' prayers he came back to life. After that during some period of time he was in near-death condition. He was not fitting in his body and his subtle body was deteriorated. Lady therapist named Monika also was there when SRI VISNUPAD left his body and actually she helped so much for SRI Visnupada's recovering. We should be always thankful to this lady who was helping to recover SRI VISNUPAD.
 
  When we met SRI VISNUPAD these days were over. Before our meeting with him we heard so many things about what was happening with SRI VISNUPAD. But when we met him it became completely obvious that all these information wasn't correct. SRI VISNUPAD was in nice mood and he said so many things that were very reasonable and relevant to the situation in ISKCON. About varnasrama he said that it is very hard to believe that with present structure of ISKCON it is possible to make substantial changes in our society. The authorities of ISKCON, the GBCs, who are mostly sannyasis can't due to their status properly take care of the society. Since sannyasi means renounced brahmana it is very difficult for such person to take care about grihasthas and all social affairs. Very few of sannyasis really do this. That's why for establishing of varnasrama and the real care about devotees the structure of ISKCON most probably should be changed.
 
  Nowadays SRI VISNUPAD although is totally exhausted physically is immersed in social problems of our society. But it seems to me that not many of GBC members really understand and appreciate what he wants to do. What can we expect from SRI VISNUPADA'S Godbrothers if our own Godbrothers can't properly understand what SRI VISNUPAD is doing and don't appreaciate importance of these changes in the society? There are so many rumors and false information distributed by envious persons. Because of this many disciples and our Godbrothers are completely bewildered. Some fools even dare to reject their spiritual master. Actually it is not a tragedy for SRI VISNUPAD. It is only good if such a fools will unload the burden from our dearmost spiritual master.
 
  Because of improper and based on speculation theories concocted by different disciples and even GBCs, there appeared 3 groups of SRI VISNUPAD disciples. The 1st group is ones who have real faith in SRI VISNUPAD and they understand what is going on now with SRI VISNUPAD, they trust his words and they know that although maybe SRI VISNUPAD in near-death condition was not healthy but now his mental condition is 100% OK. The 2nd group is completely foolish souls who had misfortune to misunderstood information they got and foolishly dared to betray their own spiritual master. And the 3rd group is devotees who have positions in our movement: GBCs, BBT trustees and so on. Since they are very attached to their positions and power many of them afraid to loose these because of not supporting the ISKCON authorities' opinion about SRI VISNUPAD's ideas. That's why these disciples betray SRI VISNUPAD using as excuse the theory that SRI VISNUPAD became insane. No one of these two groups tried to make connection with SRI VISNUPAD and see what is his condition. They only accept what GBCs, SRI VISNUPAD's Godbrothers, decide about SRI VISNUPAD's condition. Since many of the GBCs don't agree with SRI VISNUPAD's varnasrama changes they are trying to make a trick which was usual thing in the former USSR. Formally in the USSR when somebody declared some revolutionary theory the KGB immediately invited psychiatric commission and by their help they made a resolution about the person's psychical sickness. After that the person was declared insane and even put in psychiatric hospital. This is the way by which the present GBCs and some our Godbrothers who are authorities of ISKCON because of their egoistical ambitions wanted to annihilate by this cruel way our spiritual master. To make foundation for their cruel activities they made a show of finding the cause of SRI Visnupada's so called "insanity". The present GBC Executive Committee representative Ravindra Svarupa das made a letter to all COM users where he was trying to prove this decision. He wrote there about "vibhuti" which SRI VISNUPAD was taking during 10 years. This "vibhuti" was given by Citeswar, famous tantric cheater, and Citeswar explained that this "vibhuti" was just an ash of a yajna. One group of devotees headed by Ekanath made an investigation as they told to us that it is not an ashes but a powder which consist a lot of Litium. And they tried their best to convince all the devotees that this is a fact and this is a reason of SRI Visnupada's so called "insanity". Other group of devotees made this investigation again and found that there no any Litium there and it is just ashes. Another group headed by Locan and Brahma-muhurta who are so much anxious about their position and power in ISKCON made another show of investigation and suddenly found out again that this powder consists of two psychotropic medicines. And they spoke with some psychologist who told them that if somebody takes this medicine for a long time and suddenly stop it, he would then have psychic problems. It is very hard to believe to all these strongly motivated people. They are trying their best to prove that SRI VISNUPAD is insane only because they're afraid that if they will not agree with GBC's opinion they will lost all their power and positions. Sannyas das in Moscow made investigation about this "vibhuti". He asked the one of the chiefs of Russian psychiatry what would happen with one who for many years took this medicine and suddenly stops doing this. Will he have hallucinations and any other psychic deviations if he stops taking this medicine? The answer was very definite: NO, there will not be any deviations. That's why Ravindra Svarupa's conclusion and other's hard endeavors to cheat all the devotees that SRI VISNUPAD is insane have no any foundation. Many devotees accept this theory about this so-called "insanity" as if this is stated in shastra or said by their spiritual master without even trying to make a little endeavor to go to their own spiritual master and seeing him and making sure that he is in 100 % proper condition.
 
  To get bona fide spiritual master is the most difficult thing in the universe and to lose him so cheaply is the most foolish act one can possibly do in his all life. Dear Godbrothers and Godsisters don't let you be fooled by any decisions of any people, be it so-called GBC or anybody else. Any of you can any time go and see SRI VISNUPAD's condition. Ravindra Svarupa das had only few hours' discussion with SRI VISNUPAD. How he could make such a conclusion only after few hour meeting?
 
  SRI VISNUPAD now is in such a condition that it is very difficult for him to hide pure love to Sri Sri Radha and Krsna and SRILA PRABHUPADA. Sometimes he loudly speaks with Deities, sometimes he is crying, sometimes he is falling in complete trance of love for Godhead. And can you imagine the cruelty of some of SRI Visnupada's Godbrothers who are trying to use SRI Visnupada's symptoms of pure love to Godhead as a foundation of conclusion that he is insane. This is untellable. No sane disciple should tolerate this. It is the cruelest thing that can be done in the whole world. Sri Visnupad himself said that our movement became such a movement where is sombody really speaks with Deities others will put him in mental hospital. The actual reason why Ravindra Svarupa and others trying hard to prove that SRI VISNUPAD is insane is that they didn't want changes in our society on which SRI VISNUPAD is insisting. This is the real disease of our society. SRI VISNUPAD himself told us that he is 100% sane. And others who think that he is insane are insane themselves. He was very much disappointed by many GBCs and what they are doing now. Dear Godbrothers and Godsisters, why should we believe others? We should believe our spiritual muster who is very dear to all of us, who is always taking care about all of us, who will take care about us in future, and definitely will take us with him to the spiritual kingdom. Don't expect that Ravindra Svarupa or Brahma Muhurta or Locan or somebody else will help in your critical situation in life. Not even materially, what to speak about spiritual help. They are mainly concerned about themselves, their positions and power. In the case if you believe them you will lose all your faith in your spiritual master and become insane since SRI VISNUPAD says that if someone consider him insane he is insane himself. The result of such activity will be very abominable. Not only ISKCON will suffer but you will suffer more. Be very careful. Don't trust anybody. You were struggling so hard to get bona fide spiritual master, don't lose him so cheaply. These incidents show us how many envious people are there around ISKCON. Some envious fools even reject their spiritual master. They don't know that very soon their hearts will become the feasting place for crows and jackals. They are complete fools. No one should associate with them by all means. If he is a temple president or some temple authority which you depend on you better move yourself in other temple where the temple president is a sane man. There is a statement in shastra that nobody should tolerate if somebody offends Vaisnava especially a spiritual master. If one is tolerating such an offense he will lose all his faith. Everybody who has a little intelligence should defend our beloved spiritual master by all means.
 
  YS.
 
  P.S. Don't trust COM since the COM is under the control of the devotees of the 2nd group who have their special opinion and they moderate COM for their own purposes. They are turning COM into the place where all kinds of offenses of SRI VISNUPAD are made. There are so many nice letters that were sent by devotees but they haven't appeared in SV Disciples. But the letters of such evil-minded fools like Lalitanath appeared to encourage other fools. Therefore be careful.
 
 
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Letter from Sannyasa das (11-aug-98)

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
 
  Although Kamalamala prabhu have used too strong expressions in his letter, which might not completely correctly reflect the motivations of the people involved, I can still understand his emotions and disappointment.
 
  To determine someone's mental condition is not an easy task. It normally takes up to several months for professionals to clinically test all the factors, including behavioral tests, chemical investigations and many other highly specific researches to prove that someone is (or is not, for that matter) in a state of psychic disorder of whatever origin. Besides, those professionals need specific equipment to carry out their investigations.
 
  That is why the conclusions of the GBC authorities in this particular case appear to be premature, groundless and, considering their public release, a bit irresponsible, particularly so when the matter concerns such a unique and highly ranking individuals like Srila Harikesa Maharaja.
 
  Moreover, my personal impressions from prolonged discussions with him on various subjects give no grounds whatsoever to presume necessity for such medical tests. On the contrary, he is full of very interesting and inspiring ideas on how to resolve some old problems of ISKCON, how to further develop this organization. I am sure most of you would like those ideas and I will try to put them in writing some time in the future.
 
  Srila Harikesa Maharaja very much regrets all the rumors and speculations initiated by some of his God-brothers and disciples, which put his mental and spiritual integrity in doubt, and considers those rumors highly detrimental to the faith of the disciples and potentially destructive to the movement as a whole.
 
  As for the so-called direct reasons for his recent health problems which are cited as "abrupt withdrawal" from the blue powder intake, they are at least not serious because the four-months period between termination of intake (January, 98) and the health crisis (June, 98) is anything but "abrupt". Local professionals also exclude any possibility of the "withdrawal syndrome" considering the 4-months period.
 
  I also make you recipients of the text of my answer to the letter of Ravindra Svarupa Prabhu which you have not received due to divine arrangements of Sri Sri Mukhya - Raktambara ji.
 
  Text COM:1576903 (25 lines)
From: Sannyas (das) HKS (NE-BBT Moscow)
Date: 09-Aug-98 10:58
To: Umapati Swami [4111]
To: Ravindra Svarupa (das) ACBSP (Philad. - USA) [3499] (received:
09-Aug-98 11:09)
To: Bhagavat Dharma (das) MG (Mayapur Project, Comm.) [16284]
To: Premarnava (das) HKS (GBC Corr. Secretary) (NE-BBT) [24252]
Cc: Acyuta (das) HKS (UKR) [2328] (forwarded: 09-Aug-98 11:00)
Cc: Aniruddha (das) HKS (NE-BBT Sochi) [6896] (forwarded: 09-Aug-98
12:44)
Cc: Brahmananda Puri (das) HKS (BBT Moscow) [1016]
Cc: Darpa-ha (das) HKS (Moscow - R) [1022]
Cc: Gohita (das) HKS (NE-BBT Moscow) [777] (received: 09-Aug-98
12:40)
Cc: Kamalamala (das) HKS (TP St.Petersburg - R) [1285] (received:
09-Aug-98 11:55)
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Cc: Mukhya (dd) HKS (NE-BBT) [14387]
Cc: Nidhi Varji (das) HKS (Los Angeles, CA - USA) [126]
Cc: Sarvabhavana (das) HKS (Mayapur - IN) [250]
Cc: Sridam (das) HKS (NE-BBT Sochi) [2123] (forwarded: 09-Aug-98
12:44)
Cc: [email protected] (posted: 09-Aug-98 11:05)
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Reference: Text COM:1568023 by Ravindra Svarupa (das) ACBSP (Philad. - USA)
Subject: For immediate release to all com users and chakra
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> A psychiatrist consulted about the drugs and their possible effect on
> Harikesa Swami said that Harikesa's recent extreme behavior was typical of
> the effect of a sudden withdrawal from the medication contained in the
> "vibhuti." Physicians are careful to reduce the dosage of these drugs
> gradually, he said. Otherwise, there is a great danger of an induced
> psychosis He described Harikesa Swami's recent behavior as "episodic
> paranoid schizophrenia with auditory hallucinations." This, he said, is a
> the kind of reaction produced by abrupt withdrawal from the drugs found in
> the "vibhuti."


I just consulted one of the best psychiatrist in Russia, a professor who used to be in charge of the central and the most well known psychiatrical institution in Russia. She confirmed that a patient who had mental disorders such as schizophrenia and the like should withdraw from such kind of drugs gradually to avoid undesired reactions. She, however, stated that it is impossible for someone who was not mentally sick but would mistakenly take these medicines regularly during even many years to develop schizophrenia or anything like that due to abrupt withdrawal from the above mentioned drugs. Therefore, we should not go too far trying to base our theories on unreliable although seemingly professional information, and especially not to rush to put them in the public conferences like that and confuse devotees, especially the disciples.

ys
Sannyasa dasa
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Letter from Sannyasa das: (11-aug-98)

> Sri Visnupada himself have chosen a group of devotees who are closely 
> connected to him, and have revealed his mind to them. His personal 
> servants who have been associating with him for years and years do have a 
> much more clear picture of the situation that you and me could never dream 
> of. 

Dear Pranava Prabhu, 

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Sri Visnupada! 

I very much appreciate your attitude, and I can understand you well. 

One, however, should not be so naive to think that if someone have been 
associating with Sri Visnupada during many years this would automatically 
mean that such a person understands Sri Visnupada better or is more devoted 
to him. Or, the group of devotees (which I happened to be a member of), 
selected by Sri Visnupad, which you mention in your text. One of the members 
of the group turned out to be so envious of Sri Visnupad that you would hit 
the sealing if you heard what kind of offenses he commited.I don't want to 
mention names or quote what they said, I just mean to say that one should 
not just blindly accept everything and anything that comes from others. 

I was of the same opinion as you regarding Sri Visnupad's condition before I 
saw him. But after I met him and talked to him several times during one 
week, I completely changed my opinion. This happened to several other 
disciples who were lucky to be with him during last weeks. I am not talking 
about the condition he was in right after the hospital. These things are not 
there any more. I am sure that if you would have a chance to see and talk to 
him now, you would get the same impression as me and those other devotees. 

Sri Visnupad during one of the meetings requested us - Kamalamala, 
Guru-sakti, Visvadeva, Brahmananda puri Prabhus and myself to try to stop 
all the speculations regarding his condition. He said that they will anyway 
not be able to understand and may commit offenses. He was specifically upset 
with those who tried to explain what was going on with him as mental 
disorders. 

That is why nobody should speculate and make final conclusions and 
announcements. This is very important for everyone to understand. 

Your servant 
Sannyasa dasa 

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Letter from Hararata dd (12-aug-98)

Dear Godbrothers snd Godsisters!
 
  Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Sri Visnupada!
 
  All the information which is on COM causes immense pain to my heart and a desire to ask all of those who diagnose Sri Visnupada: Live him along! Don't step into his heart with your feet, even if they are lotuslike. Sri Visnupada's heart has long ago become the residence of Lord Syamasundara who is controlling everything. And because Sri Visnupada is the perfect instrument in Krsna's hands, his most intimate servant and the dearest devotee Krsna wants to lessen his burden. Therefore He decided to make this test for us to give up an opportunity to understand how materialistic our intelligence is and how impure is our heart. Unless our heart is purified from doubts and suspicion, there won't be a place for Sri Visnupada there. Krsna keeps Sri Visnupada for more loving and devoted hearts.
 
  Krsna arranged this test to check out all Sri Visnupada's disciples and even his God-brothers. He makes Sri Visnupada to manifest such ecstatic emotions that even advanced devotees are bewildered and take courage to judge and interpret the behavior of the pure devotee, while not being on the same level. Whatever has caused Sri Visnupada's present condition (be it drugs or anything else) this is not the main point. The whole situation is just a test for us to see to what degree have we assimilated and accepted everything that Sri Visnupada was giving us throughtout all these years.
 
  This is a test of our faith and spiritual maturity, which will determine who will stay in Sri Visnupada's family and will go along with him to the spiritual world.
 
  Your servant,
  Hararata dd
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Letter from Kamalamala das: (12-aug-98)

Dear godbrothers and godsisters  thank you  very much for all your comments. 
All glores to Sri Visnupad. 
Reading some of your comments i understoode that some of you can not 
understand 
the real reason of what happening now with SRi Visnupad. 
I beg you all very seriously pay attention on wath i am writing, 
I can expect that some will not understand proparly and some even will 
critisise me 
but i dont want to be honoured when my Spiritual Master 
dishonoured,espesially by those 
who are critisising my Spiritual Master. 
And also i want to thank all those wonderfull devotees who understanding 
evrything in proper perspective and trying there best for our Spiritual 
Master. 
I can also understand that ones who belonging to 2 or 3 group can not 
proparly 
digest some points in my previous letter. 

The following is comment on Gurusaktis and Padmanabha prabhus letter. 
In Gurusaktis and Padmanabha prabhus letter there are one very interesting 
point which can help a lot to understand properly present situation and 
difficulties. 
 

In there letter it is written : 

 VARNASRAMA DHAMA CANNOT BE MANAGED FROM THE GBC 
 

It can only come if we individual devotees accept our own dharma and connect 
it with 
KRSNA. 
BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY WRONG CONCEPTIONS ABOUT WHAT RENUNCIATION IS EVEN 
WHAT SPIRITUAL LIFE IS WE HAVE NOT ALLOWED OURSELVES TO DO THIS. 
This is SRi Visnupads own words. 

This sentence is showing the REAL CAUSE of everything which is happening 
now. 
When we had a darsan with Sri Visnupad He told us the same. 

WE should try to understand WHY. 

First of all let us try to understand why Sri Visnupad doesn't wrote any 
letter 
explaining clearly what should be done, and i know that many devotees still 
waiting that 
one day such a letter will appear where will be the clear way of action. 
But it most probably will not happen , and for this there are different 
reasons. 
First reason is that which i already wrote in my letter, that GBCs doesn't 
agree 
with SRi Visnupads concept, why? Because in this concept GBC will lose his 
power 
or even will not exist anymore. Since it is very radical point that is why 
it cannot 
be presented unless GBC accept it. It is completely revolutionary idea so 
much revolutionary 
that some of GBCs even thinking that Sri Visnupad became insane. 
The second reason that Sri Visnupad will not write any paper because VAD can 
be done 
only by our own desire it cannot be done by order, 
Previously we was exploiting our spiritual master for every single thing he 
was giving an order this our altitude made us un initiative zombis. And this 
kind zombi mentality is worst mentality to make VAD. 

But You can ask why we need Varnasrama dharma just now. Of course, if you 
are authority 
in ISKCON and you are sure about your future then for you there is no need 
of VAD now. 
But if you are ordinary devotee and more then that you suddenly became 
married then...? 
Then you have no future unless fortune doesn't smile in your face and you 
doesn't 
become a temple president or something similar. 
When you are authority it is very difficult to estimate what kind of 
problems feeling our devotes prabhus and especially ladies.  In general 
although our name is society but we are not real society since our devotees 
not protected in long terms by authorities. 

We  can not estimate what an extreme disappointment was feeling those who 
where 
serving many years in our society and then as soon they changed there ashram 
they 
was trown away. The other problem is that how we can be a society without 
strong  grihasthas. Grihasthas are the basis of any society. Bramacaries can 
be only the basis of temple, but if they becoming the bases of society then 
it is very strange society if it will 
be so then how we are going to exist as a society in long ran, what kind of 
society we will 
be without future generation. More then that bramacaries main job is not 
maintain society, 
but learning. That is why only Grihasthas can and should maintain society, 
for doing this they should be independent. Grihsthas cannot be managed by 
sanyases it is not possible. 

Sanyasies should not be engaged in any management  if they try then they 
will spoil there own life and also grihasthas will suffer and all society 
will suffer also, this is actually going on now in our society. 

I spoke about this statements with some GBC sanyases and you will be maybe 
amazed 
they accepted all this points including the point that they should not 
manage. 

Now we understood why it is so important to introduce VAD just now, because 
management 
falling apart, because devotees have no future, they are not properly 
situated, and that is why they are not happy. Also an important point is 
economy. It is impossible to make our society economically self-sufficient 
in present condition, it is possible only in VAD. Therefore we have no 
economical future, it is obvious. 

And also one factor making the introduction of VAD more urgent then 
anything. 
Although we devotees are so far away from karmis reality, and we doesn't 
care about 
the other world, but we cannot live independently from them. And it is not a 
secret that 
this material society very soon, in this or next two years are going to feel 
apart. 
Now days, any moment the third war can be began, huge calamities will be 
appeared here and there, if it will happen then the big cities will become 
the worst places in the world. 
And this also can be the cause of urgent introduction of varna asrama. 

I think that considering all this points now we can understand why Sri 
Visnupad by 
all means trying to turn the attention of all society on VAD. And also we 
can understand 
it cannot be done by another way. For me it is obvious that it is so 
difficult to do and it is 
so important that because of it Sri Visnupad made such a big sacrifices. 

I hope that what i am writing will help devotees to understand the present 
problematice situation properly. 

Now maybe some can understand why some GBCs desiring to put SRi Visnupad in 
mental Hospital. 

Please understand me properly i don't want to blame anybody without real 
reason. 
Please meditate on what Sri Visnupad said  and what Sri Visnupad desire. 
Sri Visnupads desire to see devotees happy in the long ran. 
And it can happen only if in Varnasrama dhama. 
From the other hand VAD CANNOT BE MANAGED BY GBCs. 
This is the real cause of conflict. 
Our duty is to defend Sri Visnupad  and try to understand Him by all means.

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Letter from Sivatma das (12-aug-98)

DISCIPLE_S HEART-CHECK
 
  Just after reading Sri Visnupada_s COM-Letter again with his latest instruction to deeply look into our hearts and checking our motivations for feeling pain, because of his change or condition, we realized that many people in this conference speak about feeling the strong urge to "help" Sri Visnupada.
 
  For weeks devotees from the danish, swedish and german yatras are receiving constantly informations from the socalled closest persons arround Sri Visnupada, who function as confirming authorities for the psycho-analysis of Bhakti Tirtha Swami. A circle of informators about Sri Visnupada_s "Insanity" has had exchange on all levels of communication. For weeks they are firmly convinced that Sri Visnupada must really mentally insane. Becaus e of being so much convinced about that, they constantly feel urged to convince others about this "absolut truth". They are of the opinion that Sri Visnupada and his "little helpless baby"-disciples have to be "protected".
 
  Those persons only listened to those informators, but didn_t consider it necessary to directly take shelter to Sri Visnupada himself and his instructions. Our expierience is when one follows the instruction, to deeply look into oneself, one doesn_t have any problems with the change in Sri Visnupada_s life. In Contrary one expieriences great happiness about the possibility for changes in our society, and that Sri Visnupada does exactly, what is good for him and us. When others, however, start projecting their visions and imaginations about his motivations in this case on ourselves, we start to doubt in Sri Visnupada, our spiritual master and become confused.
 
  We should not be overintelligent, to think we would have to make decisions, what would be good or not be good for "helping" Sri Visnupada.
 
  vaisnavera kriya mudra vijne na bhujay
 
  The statement:
 
  > If the guru dies or goes into a coma, we wouldn't dispute the
> diksa he gave. Why should it be different if he goes insane or
> falls down? As I see it, the diksa guru, so far he is in good
> standing when he gives the diksa, is the eternal guru of the
> disciple, because he provides the connection to the eternal
> disciplic succession. Once the connection is there it is eternal.

 
  is already hidden ritwik-philosophie. To hammer home, to keep togetherness in spite of constant offences against our sane and living spiritual master in order to just not fall victim to the ritwiks or NM is an improper means to create emotions of fear and pressure in the devotees.
 
  We definitely go conform with all, what Kamalamala and Sannyas prabhus said in this regard. That devotees are called by name in such a situation is understandable, especially when they are devotees, who have important and big responsibilities in their fields.
 
  A leadership or government has to accept to be critisized in it_s own matter, especially in a critical situation. That does not all mean, that offences were made against these responsible devotees. Even if it would be so, they should be spiritually capable to properly deal with such an perhaps mistakenly expressed critique. This creates clarity on both sides, Nevertheless we should not loose our basic respect towards godbrothers who have an other opinion. But in the topic itself, everybody shoukd be allowed to fight for his position. The resulting dialogue creates unity. Srila Prabhupada gave a good example in dealing with his godbrothers. Although he had his strong position, he never became too much harsh.
 
  Lalitanath Prabhu_s letter is indeed evil-minded. But We cannot imagine, that this is created by himself allone, but tinged by third persons, who have the opinion, Sri Visnupada is insane and therefore not trustable.
 
  This we can observe in the contributions by so many danish devotees, which are all very simular in their opinions. It is not the point of one_s individual opinion but a regional collective one. The propaganda that Sri Visnupada is mentally insane is going out from Sweden and Denmark since the very beginning. After that it went further to parts of Germany by telephone-communication and by the "seeland-converence" (North Germany) from 30.Juni to 2.Juli.
 
  Your sevants
 
  Sivatma dasa, Jagan Maya dasa & Paramsreya dasa
 
 
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Letter from Brahmananda Puri das: (12-aug-98)

Dear Maharajas, prabhus and matajis. 
Please accept my humble obeisances. 
All glories to Srila Prabhupada. 

I want this letter to be read by all of you and hope you will 
understand me properly. Please try to see the deep essence of 
my message and not take it as some threat or simptom of 
extreme fanaticism. I'd like to stress that I am just trying 
to express our feelings - the feelings of Harikesa Maharaja's 
disciples - and the degree of their pain and also learn how 
to act properly in such situation as it rises too much 
anxiety and dissatisfaction. I already see so much 
misunderstanding and  assaults caused by Kamalamala Prabhu's 
letter in which he invokes to stop all these offences towards 
his spiritual master which are unbearable for a disciple. I 
amased that there is such a misunderstanding within our 
ISKCON family and there are people who see it their duty to 
spoil  the authority of our society and cause disruption 
within it. In actuality I am ashamed to tell you again and 
again this truth that accepting spiritual master is not a 
cheap thing and one can not so easily  reject him. After many 
billions of lifetimes a living entity can get this chance and 
if he accepts spiritual master  these relationships become 
eternal. So a disciple may reject spiritual master only when 
the latter acts despite  shastric  instructions and the 
Personality of Godhead. In other cases it is impossible for 
him to give him up. When one accepts guru he places him 
within his heart and carefully serves his lotus feet and then 
guru   resides their and lives forever in the heart of such a 
disciple. Any external attempt to cause harm to such 
relationships between guru and disciple brings severe 
suffering to disciple and it is this pain that makes hin 
react in such seemingly inadequate way. Indeed there are 
foolish people who take it as a fanaticism but they do not 
understand that these relations are not just external - these 
relations are based on deep love, faith and devotion which 
are immovable  and have nothing to do with fanaticism. Any 
discredit to his spiritual master causes great pain to such a 
disciple no matter what condition his guru is in. And such 
disciples are not just few. If we see only this one who tries 
to protect reputation of his spiritual master it does not 
mean that there is no others who just cannot write on COM. I 
want to say it once more: any public comments or uncareful 
remarks towards Harikesa Swami causes severe pain to all his 
sincere disciples. We also have emotions and all these words 
evoce different feelings as anger, confusion or 
disappointment and every emotion has different effects. First 
of all I ask GBC members to stop all public discussions 
concerning Harikesa Swami's health which can break 
disruption. Harikesa Swami suffered clinic death with all its 
aftereffects due to his hard labor for ISKCON and sinful 
reactions of thousands and thousands of his disciples. Now he 
needs our love and help so that he could regain  and any 
negative words from his Godbrothers or disciples traumatize 
him. He needs time to regain. Please be patient. I hope that 
very soon he will become stronger and again begin work for 
the benefit of ISKCON and humanity. 

Your servant, Brahmananda Puri das

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Letter from Sannyasa das (14-aug-98)


> Dear Devotees. 
> Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Sri Visnupada. 

> Some hours after Sri Visnupada got the letter from the GBC about his 
> situation I asked him if he have a message to Kamalamala das. Here is his 
> answer from Thursday at 13.20 in front of his homemobil (his sister 
> Barbara was also there): 

> "There is no need to do anything. Just tell him that he should be nice to 
> people, chant Hare Krsna and not worry to much. He should use his brain 
> and not make fights. If he comes next week I can speak with him. 
> Everything is ok. Tell him Krsna is the supreme controller and not 
> Kamalamala das". 

> your servant 
> Visvadeva das 

From my yesterday's telephone conversation with Sri Visnupad I didn't get 
the impression that he is dissatisfied with Kamalamala prabhu. He rather 
said that if Kamalamala wants to do something, he should do it in a little 
more cultured way. Sri Visnupad said that it was not bad that at least 
somebody is trying to present the point of view that he has not gone mad. 

ys 
Sannyasa das

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Letter from S-Petersburg yatra: (14-aug-98)


We, members of St.Petersburg yatra want to express our complete 
disappointment due to the last Statements of EC GBC regarding our 
spiritual master and GBC His Divine Grace Harikesa Swami Sri 
Visnupad. Similar irresponsible statements directed towards not only 
on destroying of our faith in our spiritual master and GBC but also in 
the whole ISKCON. Similar attitude to the person who sacrificed 
whole his life to this movement, who led and inspired many huge 
projects in this movement, who took care of devotees in general and 
of his own disciples like nobody else in this movement, who translated 
and publishes hundreds of millions of Srila Prabhupada's book and 
who by seeing your irresponsible attitude to the devotees in ISKCON 
sacrificed all his glory and even his life for establishing varnasrama 
dharma and let the devotees of our movement to find their own place 
and be happy, is showing that our GBC body which you lead is 
completely irresponsible body which is not able to solve any problems 
of ISKCON at all but on the contrary able to create great harm for our 
society. The proof of this is your statement. 

That is why considering your incapabality to manage this movement 
we are very much afraid of the future of thoushands members of our 
yatra who may be led by such irresponsible people as you. We can not 
anymore trust you and put our lives in the hands of such irresponsible 
leaders as you. We, whole St.Petersburg yatra, are rejecting you from 
this day as GBCs and we don't need your leadership anymore. And we 
will keep Sri Visnupad as our GBC in spite of all your statements 
since you completely discredit yourselves by your attitude. We will 
continue our service to Srila Prabhupad under the guidance of our 
GBC and spiritual master His Divine Grace Harikesa Swami Maharaj. 
If you will try to counteract our activities it will create a war between 
all of the devotees and you will be guilty for all the consequences. 
This situation can be rectified only if you publicly appologize for all 
the offenses you made to our GBC and spiritual master and abolish all 
your statement and beg forgiveness to all Sri Visnupad's disciples who 
you bewildered and create such a pain in their hearts. 

The members of St.Petersburg Yatra: 

Trilokera Swami das, 
Visnu das, 
Neta das, 
Kamalasana das, 
Kamalamala das, 
Vasudama das, 
Vidhata das, 
Deva  Yadubar das, 
Satyaraj das, 
Deva Sri Govinda das, 
Devala Vatah das, 
Virahangi das, 
Bahi das, 
Dharma Rupa das, 
Caturatma das, 
Canrahasya das, 
Hasti das, 
Tribhangi das, 
Caru Darshana das, 
Manobhava das, 
Annamaya das, 
Vakragati das, 
Varistha das, 
Vidadha das, 
Vikrama das, 
Vipulashri das, 
Deva-bhrit guru das, 
Devarata das, 
Aparadha hara das, 
Hara das, 
Shakrari das, 
Sharira Bhuta Bhrit das, 
Saci Prasu das, 
Yajna Bhrit das, 
Yajnasa das, 
Mahabuddhi das, 
Mahabhuta das, 
Varapanga das, 
Araudra das, 
Param Spashta das, 
Danda das, 
Para Varagya das, 


Viryavan das, 
Devarshirath das, 
Kali-varya das, 
Hemabha das, 

bhakta Gagik, 
bh. Karen, 
bh. Edik, 
bh . Aleksey, 
bh. Anton, 
bh. Aleksandr, 

Mahadhida dd, 
Kameswari dd, 
Lila Madhava dd, 
Hladini dd, 
Nandagrama Mahadwara dd, 
Srinkhala dd, 
Amrita Syandidni dd, 
Asankhyata dd, 
Niruja dd, 
Bhava Nau dd, 
Gajendra Gamini dd, 
Ghana dd, 
Mani Bhushana dd, 
Mauktiki dd, 
Nagari dd, 
Narataki dd, 
Nau dd, 
Radhika dd, 
Talaswara dd, 
Tambula Charchita dd, 
Tanvi dd, 
Harapathi dd, 
Yudhbhuta dd, 
Ahankara dd, 

bhn Nadya, 
bhn Natasha, 
bhn Anna, 
bhn Lena, 
bhn Vaisnavi, 
bhn Astrik

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Letter from Mahasaya das: (14-aug-98)


Dear Hare Krsna devotees,.. 

For somebody who has nothing to LOOSE, WHAT is the problem in life..? 

Even if we all DIE on a spot, the Hare Krsna movement will STILL GO ON, 
due to enormous amount of BOOKS translated, printed and distributed by 
DEVOTION of Sri Visnupad... On the basis of the BOOKS ALONE there 
will be ALLWAYS enough people joining for the next 10'000 YEARS, and they 
will be much more PURE and QUALIFIED as we. So there is nothing to WORRY 
about. We shall all DIE. We better somehow get READY to it, for our next 
DESTINATION... We better worry about who will SAVE us. It's NOT going to be 
some INSTITUTION, or some United Nations ORGANIZATION, it's going to be our 
PERSONAL ATTACHMENT to Sri Visnupada's lotus feet ALONE and NOTHING ELSE! 
So we better worry about US and about our DEVOTION to HIM. And let HIM take 
care of himself with the help of those he SHOOSES HIMSELF. After ALL, 
when he left his body, if he wouldn't decide to come back,  he would take 
care of himself in a BEST way, couldn't he? 

We should think in a long term, not just in a short term. There may be 
many shortcomings from anybody's side, like somebody may use too strong 
words, or somebody may have very special combination of the modes of nature 
in his nation, it all doesn't matter. If somebody has tendency to 
fight, and he uses it fighting for his GURU, that is his perfection. If 
somebody has knowledge of SASTRA, and it helps him to see the Glory of his 
Spiritual Master, that is his perfection, if somebody has association of 
SADHUS and it helps him to remain always faithful to his Spiritual Master, 
that is his perfection. 

Probably you heared a lot of predictions about Russia, going to play some 
special role in spreading of Krsna Consciousness. So, just wait... 

We should try to see the essence of what is going on. When there was 
Satya-yuga, demons and devotees were residing in different planets. 
When Kali-yuga came, demons and devotees live within one person. Now, 
for the next 10'000 years it's going to be intervention of Satya-yuga. 
Even astrologers and all kind of mistiks see and predict that Golden Age 
is coming and they confirm that it starts from polarization of people 
all around the world into demons and devotees of God, exactly. So, THAT 
is OUR choice! What is the use now to hold everybody in this Society or 
that Society. In essence it looks like there is no Society since long ago. 
Everybody is just taking care of himself. ALL are just struggling for 
existence from up to the bottom. Gaudiya Math Society was established by 
Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati, but when it became useless, Srila 
Prabhupada went to the West and distributed Krsna Consciousness alone. 
What is the use of this "Krsna Consciousness" Society, if the one who 
sacrificed EVERYTHING for it, including his LIFE, got only "pot with 
garbage" resolution on his head, WHEN HE IS IN DIFFICULTY, and instruction 
for his disciples not to accept any siksa from him anymore? Who else will 
want to join such a Society and sacrifice ANYTHING to it? 

Sorry... I don't want to judge anybody personally. There are already enough 
judges appointed in the universe, and ultimately Krsna is the Supreme Judge. 
I personally think we shouldn't judge anybody, what to speak of our 
Spiritual Master. It is just that everybody has his choice, every second, 
but it seems that Krsna judges on a long term. 

All above I wrote just being inspired by the letter (see below) Vaidyanath 
prabhu got from one his friend, who is not even initiated. I happend to read 
it once when I was his COM secretary. Concerning my personal identity you 
shoud have no doubts, I'm rascal. All I want is just that my beloved wife, 
whom I treated so harshly, would forgive me and come back at one day. 
Otherwise, whatever spiritual was and is in my life, is entirely manifested 
by Sri Visnupad and his disciples, so I have no ambitions toward ISKCON as 
a whole whatsoever. 

Please note that the letter below is not the point of view of a disciple, 
or initiated ISKCON member (although he says "our movement" there). It is 
more or less a look from outside which is sometimes needed... 
After all if we are going to listen or trust psyhologists, psyhiatrists or 
psyhoteraupists (psyhos - means soul) as if they know what is soul and are 
competent to "diagnose" or treat such an elevated soul as the pure devotee 
of the Lord, then I don't know... 

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PAMHO! Thank you very much for the information. It was very helpful. I've 
been thinking a lot about Sri Visnupad lately and I feel (and hope!) that 
the situation is not as grave as some people are trying to paint it both 
inside and outside of our movement. I have no psychic abilities but I have a 
very strong feeling that what's going on with Sri Visnupad in not of the 
same nature as what happened to some other gurus in ISCKON. 
                                   . . . 
I don't want to offend anybody but I think that there are couple of "known 
truths" that are not properly understood in our Society. One of them is the 
belief that somebody can be not influenced by the material nature if he is 
engaged in devotional service. I think, from one angle it is true but we 
shouldn't take it literally. This can lead to self-destructive behavior, 
which will incapacitate such person and make him unable to further conduct 
his service. We've seen so many examples of it. And the worst part is that 
it can become a starting point for a complete fall-down for somebody who is 
not extremely strong spiritually. And as we can see now, this kind of 
behavior can seriously disturb even such exalted personalities as Sri 
Visnupad. Although in his case, I can't even remotely imagine a fall-down. 

Based on readings and lectures, I've been closely looking at the character 
and behavior of Srila Prabhupada. Among countless wonderful things about 
him, I've noticed that he had one very strong realization that everything is 
already predetermined and executed by Lord Krishna and we are only the 
instruments in His hands. That, I think, allowed him to go on with his 
mission in a relatively "relaxed" state. He never doubted the outcome of his 
actions for he knew that what needs to happen will happen regardless of any 
external circumstances. He knew that things will be happening even without 
his participation (if he chooses not to participate). For example, one of 
his major tasks was the translation of Srimad Bhagavatam. But he left this 
planet without completing this work, knowing perfectly that it will be 
completed because there was Krishna's Divine Plan to give this knowledge to 
the world. Prabhupada didn't choose to stay and finish the translation, 
although, I'm sure, he could do it. There are examples in history when much 
less elevated personalities (to say the least) have remained alive against 
all odds for the sole purpose of finishing their much less significant work. 

All this leads me to an understanding that true bhakti is when you are 
absolutely and unconditionally not attached to the fruits of your actions. 
We've all known it for years but I am afraid that this one is another of 
those 'truths" that are not completely realized by us. I am not questioning 
anybody's level of realization but I think it's kind of obvious that this 
concept (which is the very essence of bhakti) is not fully revealed in our 
Movement. 

One more thing that I wanted to say is that I think our perception of a guru 
sometimes leads us to believe that he can't make even a slightest mistake. I 
am convinced that it isn't true. I agree that spiritual master doesn't make 
mistakes but I interpret it in a different way. I think it applies to his 
understanding of the science of devotional service and spiritual 
realizations. And the sole reason that he doesn't make mistakes in those 
areas is because he accepts the authority of Krishna and Guru Parampara and 
transparently projects the truth upon his disciples. Any mistake is not 
possible here as long as he remains in that position. As for the "material" 
side of his life or his personal life that may not be entirely connected 
with his mission as a guru, he may be as prone to mistakes and wrong 
judgements as any other human being. After all, a guru IS a human being, 
albeit very highly elevated and spiritually empowered by Krishna. I hope I'm 
not offending any spiritual master by assuming that all we should focus on 
in a guru is his message that is not different from Krishna's. That's what 
MAKES him a spiritual master. Not his personality but his message alone 
makes him equal to God /*** please note that he doesn't say that guru's 
personality or personal example are not important, he is just sharing 
his understanding of why we shoud respect guru on the same level as God, 
7-th verse of Sri Gurvastaka ***/. If we start thinking otherwise, we may 
commit a serious aparadha towards the Supreme Lord for He is the only One 
Who is equal to Himself in personality. 

I think, what had happened (and is still happening) to Sri Visnupad is a 
result of an enormous stress and lack of simple "human" love. He needs to be 
loved and treated as a human being. This will not diminish his status as a 
guru but may even enforce it stronger. We shouldn't idolize him but rather 
accept him as he is and as he wants us to. Somebody should be his FRIEND and 
not just a disciple or a Godbrother. He is NOT a Deity, although his message 
is. As long as he chooses to carry this message he should be treated as a 
person who holds the Deity in his hands. And if he breaks his leg carrying 
It, we shouldn't expect him to move on. We must give him a chance to heal! 

I am very concerned about Sri Visnupad's healing process. I think it may 
turn out to be painful and long. But I am totally convinced that he'll get 
better if  allowed to heal himself. Attempts to impose any treatments or 
ideas upon him that are not approved or realized by him from inside may 
bring even more damage. I think that he should be surrounded by a handful of 
caring and loving, but totally invisible, FRIENDS who manifest only when and 
as much as HE wants it. 

I don't care if Sri Visnupad decides to make changes in his life. If he 
wishes to get married or have children or not be a guru anymore. For me he 
will always be a Messenger of God who helped me to change my life forever! 
And as long as he is cured from his current condition I'll be happy to 
accept him in any capacity he would chose to appear. Even if he decides to 
go completely mad! How do we know what the real foundation of madness is? 
How do we know what's going on at the dark side of the Moon? Maybe it's full 
of wonderful sights and events that can't be seen by the blind eye? Maybe 
the only way to find out is to get there?.. 
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"To those unintelligent people who consider the body to be the self, 
the study of Vedic scriptural knowlege is a burden. For  people  who are 
engaged in and attached to sense gratification, true knowledge becomes a 
burden. Those who are not at peace with themselves, their mind is a 
burden. Those who  have  transcended  the mental platform, their body 
becomes a burden." (VAIRGYA MARTANDA, Verse 10 BY JIVA GOSVAMI)

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Letter from Moscow SV disciples (15-aug-98)

Open message from Sri Visnupada's disciples of Moscow Yatra to 4 dasas ("GBC EC")

Dear dasas,

Your statements to all ISKCON-members have discovered your real faces and motives and your great concern and care about every devotee in this movement. Your cruel message had so clearly shown who are ruling our lives and destinies, that only a fool will not see it. You have expressed your wretched attitude to such a great Vaisnava as Srila Harikesa Swami Sri Visnupada who out of his great love for Srila Prabhupada gave his whole life for the benefit of this movement. He organized the production and distribution of hundreds of millions of Srila Prabhupada's books; he took care of you and others in this movement. By your statements you have shown your gratitude to such an exalted person who had made so much for you. And if such a person who deserved all possible appreciation and gratitude becomes so easily put down, what to speak of any single devotee who is equal to slave in this ISKCON organization. This act of yours has destroyed faith and trust of Sri Visnupada's disciples and other devotees to ISKCON. The relationships between spiritual master and disciple are private and sacred for a living entity, and by no authoritarian methods is it possible to accept or reject spiritual master. We disciples of Moscow Begovaya temple and Moscow BBT completely reject your decision on accepting or rejecting diksa or siksa from our beloved spiritual master. Your decision is nothing for us. This is our private affair. We will decide it by ourselves.

Your act has disturbed and abused the faith of many disciples. Your offensive statements shocked many of us, and some still cannot recover from this. Such disturbing offences can lead to a great moral breakdown, and you are fully responsible for all the reactions.

Next, if you consider His Divine Grace Srila Harikesa Maharaja to be mentally disturbed, and you consult with the psychiatrist, you should keep this information in privacy. According to the international laws of psychiatry, all the diagnoses, studies and analysis should be kept confidential. Since you have made available worldwide all your consultations with the psychiatrist and his preliminary and not approved evaluations, you are subject to punishment according to the laws of any material state. You should stop immediately, should withdraw all your statements, and beg forgiveness from Sri Visnupad thousands and thousands of times and from his disciples as well. We will forgive you if Sri Visnupad will do so. Otherwise we are going to hire the most expert advocates who will protect his honor and respect, and you will be punished according to the law.

We've lost our faith completely in GBC, and we accept as our GBC only His Divine Grace Sri Visnupad. We are not going to hand our lives and destinies to such incompetent and irresponsible persons. Our society is already loosing its purity due to that. We keep faith in our spiritual master despite any of your statements.
Brahmananda Puri d
Sannyasa d
Bhramika d
Advaita d
Agraja d
Ahahsamvartaka d
Airavata Svarna Kanti d
Akhilatma-priya d
Akincana-pryabandhu d
Alanghya d
Amani d
Anila d
Apramatta d
Atmamoha d
Atyugra d
Avyaya d
Bahu-vak d
Bakudha d
Balimat d
Barhi-darsaka d
Bhisada d
Bjad d
Caranambhodja d
Caristha d
Citra-krit d
Daksayagya-hanta d
Darpa-ha d
Darsaka d
Dhitra-dhari d
Djanamejaya d
Dripta d
Ghora d
Gohita d
Hetu d
Hota d
Kalidhanyaman d
Kanakangadi d
Kapi d
Madhava-Ghosh d
Mahad Bhuta Vyapi d
Mahaprabhava d
Mahesvasa d
Manojava d
Medhajya d
Mitragya d
Nara d
Nara-Nayaka d
Nartanakula d
Nindya Hari d
Pavana d
Revati Ramana d
Ruci d
Sama d
Sarvadeva Siromani d
Sikhamani d
Sivanandiya d
Sivavandya d
Sreya d
Suddhodani d
Tridandi d
Trivanchi d
Tulasi d
Udirna d
Vakta d
Vakunda d
Vesa-ha d
Vibhu d
Vikaravan d
Yagya-bhuk d
Bh Alexei
Bh Alexei Bryndin
Bh Andrey Komarov
Bh Atanyan
Bh Gromyko Yura
Bh Matukin Sasha
Bh Mhitar
Bh Nigmatullin Marat
Bh Nikolai Tarasenko
Bh Polyanichko M
Bh Romanova M.Yu.
Bh Saribekyan
Bh Selivanov Sergei
Bh Zernaev Alexei
Jagad-yoni dd
Acala dd
Adhidaiva dd
Adhika-Sadhana dd
Adhishthitam dd
Ajata-yovana dd
Akriya dd
Ama dd
Asamjna dd
Asthita dd
Avani dd
Bimbosti dd
Caitanya Rupa dd
Catur-aksara dd
Caturti dd
Dhatri dd
Djambu dd
Ekanga dd
Gavesvari dd
Isvari dd
Kaidari dd
Lalana-ratna-rajani dd
Mahabala dd
Mahadhatri dd
Nandi Mukhi dd
Nantasambhava dd
Nantavibhava dd
Nishkamparchi dd
Nrisimha dd
Premavati dd
Ranga dd
Ratiprita dd
Saila-Bhava dd
Saktirnidra dd
Satapaha dd
Sivabhakta dd
Tapas Caranti dd
Triguna dd
Vajracinha dd
Vanavasini dd
Yagya dd
Yamunangi dd
Yasogamya dd
Yogamaya dd
Bhn Farrahova Leila
Bhn Galina Kisileva
Bhn Guzel
Bhn Kosheleva
Bhn Morozova
...
total 143 devotees
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Letter from Nidhi Varji das (15-aug-98)

Open message from Sri Visnupada's disciples of Los Angeles Yatra to 4 dasas ("GBC EC")
 
  Dear dasas,
 
  We disciples of L.A. temple completely reject your decision on accepting or rejecting diksa or siksa from our beloved spiritual master. Your decision is nothing for us. We've completely lost our faith in GBC and we accept our GBC only His Divine Grace Sri Visnupad. We are not going to hand our lives and destinies to such incompetent and irresponsible persons. We keep faith in our spiritual master despite any of your statements.
 
Nidhi Varji das
Srnga Bhu d.d.
Bhakta George
Bhakta Vahe
Bhakta Manuel
Bhakta Armen
Bhakta Serge
Bhakta Gevorg
Bhakta Mne
Bhakta Hovik

 
Bhaktin Gohar
Bhaktin Nona
Bhaktin Liana
Bhaktin Ira
Bhaktin Hegine
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Total 15 devotees
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Letter from Bhaktivinoda Thakura (16-aug-98)


  August 15th, 1998 

 To the GBC Executive Committee of the International Society of Krsna 
Consciousness 
 
 
 

 A MOTION 
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 A motion for revision and cancellation of Executive Committee's decision 
 to suspend Harikesa Maharaja from the following positions, duties, and/or 
 responsibilities within the International Society for Krishna 
 Consciousness (ISKCON): 

 1. The ISKCON Governing Body Commission (GBC); 
 2. GBC Minister of Educational Development; 
 3. Property Trustee for any and all the properties within ISKCON; 4. 
 Chairman of the SMPDC, 

 and for cancelation of the EC decision placing him on probation with 
 respect to his duties as an initiating guru in ISKCON. 
 

 SUBSTANTIATION 

 We consider Executive Committee decision improper due to the following 
 reasons: 

 1. The decision of Executive Committee and its explanation are internally 
 inconsistent. 

 2. The decision of Executive Committee and its public statement are not 
 ethical and damaging for HH Harikesa Maharaja well being. 

 3. The activities and decisions of the Executive Committee show lack of 
 care for transcendental faith and human trust of the Harikesa Swami's 
 disciples, and indicate detrimental results for their spiritual well 
 being, against the GBC mandate. 

 4. The activities and decisions of the Executive Committee, due to the 
 three above causes, are damaging ISKCON's integrity as of organization, of 
 vaisnava association, and of legacy of Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami 
 Prabhupada. 

 EXPLANATION 

 1. A. The Executive Committee expressed their opinion, that Harikesa 
 Maharaja was very sick, including mental and nervous disorder, and 
 expressed their faith that he would be able to quickly recover and take up 
 his duties, and acknowledged his great merits for ISKCON at large. 

> -------------- 
> The Governing Body Commission (GBC) of the International Society 
> for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON) regrets that to date there has been no 
> significant change in the condition of Harikesa Maharaja. 

> As mentioned in my letter of 13 July, he has suffered from a total 
> physical and mental collapse. In this condition, he has been saying many 
> things that are incoherent, implausible. He has moments of lucidity and 
> then moments where he is irrational. When he has his clear spells he 
> regrets what he has said and asks that it be disregarded. We are all 
> naturally very concerned by these events. What seems clear to those 
> nearest him is that his nervous system has broken down after years of 
> austerity, incredible pressure, and prolonged and multiple illnesses. It 
> is understandable that the body and mind have their natural limits and he 
> has pushed himself beyond them. [...] 
> -------------- COM text 1519386 

 But nonetheless the Executive Committee decided to SANCTION Harikesa 
 Maharaja: 

> ------------- 
> [...]In almost all circumstances, any leader who displayed the above three 
> characteristics would have been removed swiftly and permanently from all 
> positions and probably expelled from ISKCON. However, in Harikesa dasa's 
> particular case there are unique conditions, which suggest that these acts 
> may be the expression of an unusual period of extraordinary stress and 
> severe emotional upheaval. Judgment from mental health professionals gives 
> support to this view. At the same time, the content of Harikesa's ideas 
> and the volatile nature of his thought suggests that he is locked in a 
> profound spiritual struggle which could end, God willing, in a great 
> victory for him. In short, there is hope that this state of turmoil and of 
> uninhibited emotional and mental expression is a transitory one from which 
> Harikesa dasa may emerge restored and renewed in healthy condition. 
> To stress this hope, the executive committee has invoked the lightest 
> possible SANCTION available to it.[...] 
> --------------COM text 1594070 

 We believe that any diseased person, should not be SANCTIONED, but rather 
 protected and lovingly taken care of. Such person should not be given any 
 sign that is no longer trusted and needed. 

 The Executive Committee admitted that does not consider Harikesa Maharaja 
 fallen, but contrary to their declaration, SANCTIONED him. 

 A diseased person should be rather replaced by another competent person, 
 untill he may be able to take up his duties again. But such a suspention 
 should not be based on the same rules as in the case of CONSCIOUS 
 transgression of one's duties, responsibilities and deviation. We 
 suggest a necessity for the GBC Body to provide adequate regulations and 
 procedures in such cases. 

 We humbly suggest that the Executive Committee should decide themselves 
 first, whether they consider Harikesa Maharaja fully conscious of his 
 actions and expressed desires, or they consider him sick. If the Executive 
 Committee considers him sick, he shouldn't have been sanctioned in any way. 
 If the Executive Committee considers him healthy and conscious of his 
 activities, it would have the authority to take appropriate steps provided 
 by ISKCON law. 

 B. The inconsistency of the Executive Committee's statement is clearly 
 visible in their ambivalent approach. The Executive Committee didn't take 
 seriously Harikesa Maharaja's statements about his own identity, etc., 
 otherwise would be forced to remove him and expel from ISKCON. 

 But at the same time the Executive Committee has taken seriously his 
 statements about his asrama, and acknowledged that he should not be 
 recognized as a member of the renounced order of life. 
 

 2. We consider that the manner, in which the Executive Committee dealt 
 with the whole problem, was highly unethical. 

 Although the Executive Committee stated that doesn't consider him fallen, 
 but very sick and mentally disordered, the Committee decided to reveal 
 publicly the private details of his problems, statements, and desires (COM 
 text 1594070). 
 The behavior of a mentally disordered person is not taken seriously and 
 kept confidential. Doctors and other persons involved would not broadcast 
 the details. This is just a standard decent human conduct and ethics. 

 The Executive Committee has broken this ethical principle, creating 
 great confusion in minds of disciples and well wishers of Harikesa 
 Maharaja. By act of public revelation the Executive Committee encroached 
 upon Harikesa Maharaja's rights, damaging his well being and reputation. 
 

 3. This contradictory and unethical statement of the Executive Committee 
 showed lack of support and care for the faith of Harikesa Maharaja's 
 disciples and well wishers, in consequence acting to its detriment. This is 
 against the GBC mandate, as by damaging one's faith in one's guru, the 
 faith in God and disciplic succession is also damaged. 
 

 4. The statement of the Executive Committee does not enhance the faith 
 in GBC, as a uniting body of ISKCON, that should lovingly take care of all 
 ISKCON's  members, be them healthy or sick. This leads to lack of trust 
 and misunderstanding, which are injurious to ISKCON, as association of 
 vaisnavas, and legacy of Srila Prabhupada. Especially fragile and sacred 
 guru-disciple relationship should be protected by all means. 
 

 CONCLUSION 

 We humbly ask the Executive Committee to revise and cancel their decision, 
 and to make all possible efforts to compensate the damages. 

 We expect from the Executive Committee a coherent statement about Harikesa 
 Maharaja's status in ISKCON. 

 We suggest that a proper decision that may be taken by the Executive 
 Committee, is to officially put Harikesa Maharaja on a vacation, as he 
 himself expressed this in a letter to his disciples (COM text: 1539983): 
 

> My dear disciples, 
> Please accept my blessings. 

> Because I love you all very much, I wish to get healthy so that I may 
> continue to help you become self-realized persons who are materially and 
> spiritually balanced and therefore completely happy and satisfied. Thank 
> you very much for your love, support and trust in me during my time of 
> intense rejuvenation and we should be joyous together that such a nice 
> change is taking place. I will remain in seclusion until I am fully 
> capable of taking up service again, when I will serve the lotus feet of 
> Srila Prabhupada, and Sri Sri Madhana-mohana with greater strength and 
> enthusiasm (but this time in a stable and balanced way). 
> [...] 
> I will be for some indefinite time on vacation and in therapy please wish 
> me well, I am always with you in your heart. 

> Your ever well-wisher, your spiritual master. 

> ----------------------------- 
 

 We understand the complexity of the situation. The Executive Committee is 
 under social pressure, and ISKCON lacks appropriate legislative 
 instruments. Still, we humbly ask the Executive Committee to reconsider 
 this important issue. 
 

 Your servants in service to Srila Prabhupada 
 

 Bhaktivinode Thakur dasa (HKS) 
 Akincana Krsna dasa (HKS)

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Letter from Sannyasa das: (19-aug-98)

19-aug-98 
Dear Raktambar, PAMHO, AGTSV. 

Could you, please, make sure that the following to devotees message is 
posted in SV disciples conf. 

Sri Visnupad recently heard the strangest idea that some devotees are 
thinking that Monika's son in Prabhupada. He doesn't want that devotees 
think like that and spread around such fantasies and speculations. 

So, he wanted that devotees are informed about this. 

ys 
Sannyasa das

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Letter from Moscow SV disciples (15-aug-98)

Respected devotees,
Without intention to insult anyone we are just presenting our own view point which is our rightful claim and we inevitably declare that we completely trust our spiritual master and remain faithful to him instead of accepting the information presented by EC GBC statement signed by four dasas.

We are aware of many reasons which can possibly make this information tendency oriented. But we are not going to name these reasons here.

We appeal to all rebellious GBC EC members as well as all the gurus, sannyasis, prabhus to show respect towards the disciples' individualities and towards the eternal relationships between a spiritual master and a disciple. All the genuine disciples of Sri Visnupad have an unshakable faith in him.

We request all the sannyasis who had not yet put their signatures on the EC statement to look on this matter objectively and try and see the true picture of it. Let them become sure themselves whether the act of sharing these GBC decisions is not a unrightful, offensive and attempting one against the caliber of the most respectable and pure personality in ISKCON, and whether this will allow the possibility for the disciples to have their own free choise without being forced to accept this so-called authorized analysis results. There is just no chance of spoiling the most elevated authority of His Divine Grace. And all intelligent people will follow this personality rather than some formalistic postulates.

It is definitely a great test of unshakable stability in guru disciple relationships which is going on right now. As well as a test of our determination in keeping the absolute truth untouched.

The roomers can be manufactured and distributed like anything, especially when someone is interested in forcing his specific opinion on everyone else. The above mentioned personalities have their own personal motives behind their manufacturing their roomers and abominable statements which are not at all based on reality and attempting to dishonour the personality which is the most pure one of all the humans on this planet now days. By such an act these people are going beyond all the borders of possible human decency. And we are 100% sure that any intelligent man seeing such accusations freely spread all over the world through COM shall consider the organization which allowed it to happen the unhealthy, degraded one, if it allows such a frivolous accusations to be addressed towards its best representatives (and each and every sentence of the above mentioned statement ought to be the evidence to this fact).

Thus all those who signed that statement are subjugated before the International Right Court. It is nothing but a frank detrimental action to the health of the person who has just started to recovered from clinic death experience. We could also make an investigation to of expose the name(s) of one(s) guilty in adding drugs in "Vibhuti" medicine made by Cittesvar, as well as all other names involved in the conflict.

Sri Visnupad have stated it very clearly that he had gone on vacation to make everybody understand the he'd like to recover from very serious crisis. And right in that moment, as it being seen oftenly in the mundane affairs, the whole revolution takes place (then our question is: there the difference between mundane organization and spiritual one lies?). It's just an opportune moment for someone to execute his planes when the other person's health has become weaken.

But we love you, dear Sri Visnupada. And we will never leave you. Now they had taken everything from you - even the place to stay or possibility to use COM and get some other information, and even all the money needed at least for buying some bhoga. But we'll be always linked with you with our eternal linkage of love. And we'll stay always together with you.

The disciples of HDG Srila Harikesa Swami Visnupada from Moscow.

Comment:
Dear devotees, please excuse me for delaying with putting forward this important letter compiled on the SV disciples meeting in Moscow on 15-aug-98, right after the abominable decision of EC GBC release.
It's only my fault in this. Unfortunately, though been done such an honour to translate it I've proven myself to be incapable of properly fulfilling my duty on time. But as it stated: it's better later than never. So now we are delivering to all of you this letter which is the official declaration of all signed bellow disciples of Srila Harikesa Swami Visnupada.
Your servant,
Yajna-sita dd.

The list of disciples:

Premavati dd
Brahmananda Puri d
Sannyasa d
Bhramika d
Advaita d
Agraja d
Ahahsamvartaka d
Airavata Svarna Kanti d
Akhilatma-priya d
Akincana-pryabandhu d
Alanghya d
Amani d
Anila d
Apramatta d
Atmamoha d
Atyugra d
Avyaya d
Bahu-vak d
Bakudha d
Balimat d
Barhi-darsaka d
Bhisada d
Bjad d
Caranambhodja d
Caristha d
Citra-krit d
Daksayagya-hanta d
Darpa-ha d
Darsaka d
Dhitra-dhari d
Djanamejaya d
Dripta d
Ghora d
Gohita d
Hetu d
Hota d
Kalidhanyaman d
Kanakangadi d
Kapi d
Madhava-Ghosh d
Mahad Bhuta Vyapi d
Mahaprabhava d
Mahesvasa d
Manojava d
Medhajya d
Mitragya d
Nara d
Nara-Nayaka d
Nartanakula d
Nindya Hari d
Pavana d
Revati Ramana d
Ruci d
Sama d
Sarvadeva Siromani d
Sikhamani d
Sivanandiya d
Sivavandya d
Sreya d
Suddhodani d
Tridandi d
Trivanchi d
Tulasi d
Udirna d
Vakta d
Vakunda d
Vesa-ha d
Vibhu d
Vikaravan d
Yagya-bhuk d
Bh Alexei
Bh Alexei Bryndin
Bh Andrey Komarov
Bh Atanyan
Bh Gromyko Yura
Bh Matukin Sasha
Bh Mhitar
Bh Nigmatullin Marat
Bh Nikolai Tarasenko
Bh Polyanichko M
Bh Romanova M.Yu.
Bh Saribekyan
Bh Selivanov Sergei
Bh Zernaev Alexei
Jagad-yoni dd
Acala dd
Adhidaiva dd
Adhika-Sadhana dd
Adhishthitam dd
Ajata-yovana dd
Akriya dd
Ama dd
Asamjna dd
Asthita dd
Avani dd
Bimbosti dd
Caitanya Rupa dd
Catur-aksara dd
Caturti dd
Dhatri dd
Djambu dd
Ekanga dd
Gavesvari dd
Isvari dd
Kaidari dd
Lalana-ratna-rajani dd
Mahabala dd
Mahadhatri dd
Nandi Mukhi dd
Nantasambhava dd
Nantavibhava dd
Nishkamparchi dd
Nrisimha dd
Ranga dd
Ratiprita dd
Saila-Bhava dd
Saktirnidra dd
Satapaha dd
Sivabhakta dd
Tapas Caranti dd
Triguna dd
Vajracinha dd
Vanavasini dd
Yajna dd
Yajna-sita dd
Yamunangi dd
Yasogamya dd
Yogamaya dd
Bhn Farrahova Leila
Bhn Galina Kisileva
Bhn Guzel
Bhn Kosheleva
Bhn Morozova
...
total 144 devotees
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Letter from Kamalamala das to offenders of Sri Visnupada in COM (07-sep-98)

Letter to offenders of Sri Visnupada

How are you doing, the "respectful" inhabitants of the garbage pit called "COM"? It is already for a long time that I was feeling myself very happy to be aloof from this cesspit and even decided to attend it never in the future. But after seeing your depressing and disfeatured with insanity faces I felt compassion and decided to pour out a regular and sobering down flush of cold water on the heads of all of you.

This scrap-heap under the title "COM" became now a place where some phrenetics are inspiring the other ones to commit next regular folly and thus roll to hell together, consoling themselves meanwhile that at least they are rolling there not alone but with others.

"Respectful" offenders of a pure devotee, "respectful" thieves and cheaters, "respectful" society of narrow- minded fools, is it not a proper time to finally come back to severe reality and start to think about your future? Do you know what is waiting for you for your offenses towards your spiritual master? Bali Maharaja disobeyed the order of his guru and went to the realm of lower planets although his guru was not even a vaisnava. Then what will happen with those, who are not just disobeying the orders but contra wise are offending a devotee of Krsna.

Lord Krsna said to Arjuna: "one, who is hating you is actually hating Me also". (Mahabharata, Vana parva)

It is already long time ago that Sri Visnupad was warning us that there are many demons in ISKCON. And how can we fetch out the demons. It is obvious that those who are criticizing Sri Visnupada are belonging to this category and they should be remaining satisfied with this title.

All those persons, who are offending Sri Visnupada are the lowest amongst human beings regardless of what they are - sannyasy, guru or whatever. And the association with them is equal to association with venomous serpents. Therefore I'm feeling sorry for those cuckoos who are with opened mouths associating with those GBC members and others who are blaspheming Sri Visnupada.

Do not forget, that Lord Siva was also offended by a vaisnava - Daksa. But Daksa was punished for this. Unfortunately the insanity that captured so many heads does not allow them to realize the bitter taste of the punishment that is waiting for them.

You should understand, that you came to Krsna consciousness not for the sake of some institution but to come back to Godhead. And it is no one else who has to bring you back to Krsna but Sri Visnupada. He is Acarya and the most compassionate person on this planet.

Just like Srila Prabhupada changed some rules of Gaudiya Mathas in the same way Sri Visnupada has a complete right to make a correction in rules and regulations according to the reality.

In a similar way as Pandavas were deprived from all their possessions, and they even were about to be burned away in a shellac palace and then about to be killed in the forest - similarly demoniac leaders of ISKCON, namely those who actively engaged in repression against Sri Visnupada, are now plundering his property, dishonoring him and even trying to put him in mental hospital.

Sri Visnupada said in one class that there are many demons who are coming to ISKCON and they are even occupying an elevated positions in it - and now this is becoming obvious.

During Daksa's sacrifice those who were especially enthusiastic in blaspheming of Lord Siva were punished - and as a result some of them acquired a head of a goat, others lost some parts of their bodies. And the same lot is waiting for those who participates in offenses towards Sri Visnupada.

During our last meeting with Sri Visnupada he told us: "do you really think that all these years I was preaching what was told by Srila Prabhupada and in one day I all of a sudden decided to do something in contravene to him?"

As a matter of fact only phrenetics, hard-hearted and irresponsible persons are unable not understand the insistent necessity of Sri Visnupada's correction of the 4th regulative principle. And as Sri Visnupada told us Srila Prabhupada is now personally asking him to correct this mistake.

And all this is meant for our boon only because Sri Visnupada personally does not need it.

And of cause he could be doing well without making this correction simply by continuing to be a leader of ISKCON, but nevertheless being an elevated and compassionate soul he sacrificed himself for the sake of the Truth and for the people's weal knowing well that he will be aspersed, blamed and derided.

I'm writing this letter with a clear understanding that many will not be able to understand it and appreciate the real meaning of it. And this is not a surprize, because many came to this society not to find tha God but for some other motive. Therefore I'm glad that such people will not bother my spiritual master any longer and that finally he will free himself from this unwanted burden in the form of insincere and materially motivated followers.

But for those who still have some intelligence it is not late yet to come away from this danderous path of betrayment and to come back to their master, who already have done some much for all of us. But not to benefit him but to benefit themselves.

p.s.

Those who do not understand why this Society for Krsna Consciousness is a sect, please just think for a minute about this: what is the name of the organization where leaders allow themselves to commit most abominable actions towards a person who sacrificed his whole life for the sake of spreading the glory of the holy name of the Lord.

This ISKCON had already fell apart long time ago and it was still standing just because Sri Visnupada was supporting and welding some few sincere souls in it. But now, when Sri Visnupada is rejected, it is not very difficult to foresee the consequences: it will become a horrible sect.

p.p.s.

All written above regarding ISKCON is regarding those criticizing Sri Visnupada only. Those who are not criticizing him have no connection to this whatsoever.

Kamalamala das

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