Miyako's Girlish Pacifism's gonna get her killed
I said it.
All this wimpy crap about ( Oh..we can't hurt him...he's a living creature!
Who
care's if he's gonna bust open a dam that'll kill hundres of other creatures!
) is a
pathetic.
Obviously, this applehead's attitude is gonna get her fried. What happens
when
she's up against a REAL digimon ( Not a darkspiral ) That's evil ( Not
controlled )
and who doesn't give two craps whether she lives or dies. What will she
do then?
Give him milk & cookies while he chops her up into liver patte?
The old Digidestined killed ALL the Darkmasters ( Well...they didn't kill
Piedmon,
They put him in an eternal prison. That's TORTURE folks! )
They killed Lady Devimon, and a whole bunch of other cronies....
Sure..they didn't kill others...like Ogremon and whoever. BUT if he had
posed a
significant threat to them or their loved ones...kiss Ogremon's butt goodbye.
This silly little twit ( Miyako...not Me ) had better know that desperate
times
call for desperate measures.
What really burns me is that she was willing to sacrifice hundreds of lives
just
because she didn't want to kill 1 badguy. That's pathetic, and Davis oughta
slap
her around!
That's my 2 cents.
Surgeon General's Warning: Smoking may cause bad breath and Stupidity of
the
Mind
Raptordx1
Miyako Obsessed
posts: 1858
(12/9/00 8:27:07 am)
Re: Miyako's Girlish Pacifism's gonna get her killed
grrrrrrrr........
YOU DARE MOCK THE GREAT MIYAKO-CHAN!?
SHE WAS BEING HER SWEET SELF, AND CARING ABOUT EVERYBODY, NOT JUST
THE GOOD GUYS, BUT EVERYONE! SHE DIDN`T WANT TO CAUSE EVEN MORE PAIN
THEN THAT WAS ALREADY THERE! SHE WAS THINKING OF EVERYONE, BUT WHEN
SHE FOUND OUT GOLEMON WAS CREATED EVIL, SHE KNEW THERE WAS NO WAY
TO REASON, AND THAT WAS THE ONLY CHOICE! SHE IS JUST LIKE MIMI WAS
DURING THE DARKMASTERS ARC!
NO ONE MOCKS MIYAKO-CHAN!
Punkster Rockpopple
Fresh
posts: 90
(12/9/00 8:31:53 am)
Re: Miyako's Girlish Pacifism's gonna get her killed
BAH!
The only reason Miyako decided to get with the program is that she realized
that
this Golemmon WASN'T REALLY ALIVE.
Ergo: she's still a pointless little applehead that'd better get into the
program.
Because if she never found out about Golemon being a Dark Spiral, she would
have
let a town drown because she's a big wimp.
And now that you mention it...Mimi's the same thing.
Not all bad Digimon have a Dark Gear, a Dark Spiral, or a Dark Peanut controlling
them. Some are just evil...and you'd better be willing to kill them, otherwise,
they'll eat you alive. ( Miyako! )
So ya, the great Miyako-chan better slap the apples out of her head and
get
ready to fight and maybe kill some living Digimon
PS. If she was in Season 1...she'd probably be dead!
I have mocked Miyako...and it was good.
mikedude
Stingmon Rules!!
posts: 1828
(12/9/00 8:32:13 am)
Re: Miyako's Girlish Pacifism's gonna get her killed
AHH!!! Too many capital letters!! o_O
Necro C
Fresh
posts: 8
(12/9/00 8:32:29 am)
Re: Miyako's Girlish Pacifism's gonna get her killed
i have to agree,but what i dont get is why didnt tk or kari step in and
tell her that
sometimes you need to kill and not reason?
Raptordx1
Miyako Obsessed
posts: 1860
(12/9/00 8:35:08 am)
Re: Miyako's Girlish Pacifism's gonna get her killed
ooo! I really, really, really hate your attitude Punkster!
::snaps fingers::
MODS, delete or lock this topic, NOW!
Gazi andEvil Digimon
EVIL DIGIMON!
posts: 74
(12/9/00 8:38:50 am)
Re: Miyako's Girlish Pacifism's gonna get her killed
Miyako defenders: Uhmm...what happens when Vamdemon comes back and wants
to kill the digidestined...I can immagine it...
"Oh kill me so I don't have to kill a bad guy, after all you are a living
creature!"
LMN
Fresh
posts: 84
(12/9/00 8:43:28 am)
Re: Miyako's Girlish Pacifism's gonna get her killed
She's a purple-haired, glasses wearing Releena Peacecraft. And you know
what
happened to that pacifist, don't you? All hail Yolei:Queen of the world.
*Kari steps in* Wait! That's my title! I'm the special one. I don't see
anyone
calling you 'Firefly butt'!!!
*huge catfight starts*
NOte: I don't hate Kari or yolei. But I do know someone that calls her
that. ^^
Allicat
Rainbow Keeper
posts: 675
(12/9/00 8:47:56 am)
Re: Miyako's Girlish Pacifism's gonna get her killed
>>Not all bad Digimon have a Dark Gear, a Dark Spiral, or a Dark Peanut
controlling
them.<<
Man: We still don't know who the murderer is.
Detective: Hm...I bet it was this peanut!
Woman: Oh! That makes perfect sense! Who would suspect a peanut?
Detective: We must smash this peanut to prevent it from committing any
more
crimes!
Man: But are you strong enough? I don't know if any of us have the strength
to
smash that peanut!
Detective: You may be right....oh, look, it's Hercules!
Hercules: You wanna buy an Encyclopedia? It's Cid-Cum.
Detective: Hercules! You must smash the peanut for us!
Hercules: Nah, I'm tired.
Punkster Rockpopple
Fresh
posts: 91
(12/9/00 8:53:55 am)
Re: Miyako's Girlish Pacifism's gonna get her killed
It's all true! Everyone realizes it! She is a damn Relena Peacecraft...and
we all
know what happened to the Sanc Kingdom...the Kingdom of wimps!
The DD's killed Devimon, LadyDevimon, Etemon, Lady Etimon, Myotismon,
VenomMyotismon, MetalSeadramon (Violently!) Puppetmon ( in cold blood )
MugenDramon/MachineDramon ( Violently ) and Piedmon ( They put him in eternal
torture )
WITHOUT BLINKING AN EYE!
They were all alive, they weren't being controlled, and now they're dead!
Miyako...she'd better wise up. Like the guy said, when Myotismon knocks
on her
door, ready to eat her and her family, what's is she gonna do?
Ne-Go-Ti-ATE? Hah!
ThePhantasm
Digimon Lurker
posts: 34
(12/9/00 8:54:36 am)
Re: Miyako's Girlish Pacifism's gonna get her
I think I'm going to have to agree with Punkster on this one. Miyako was
being
irrational. Like GaziandEvilDigimon said before, if it would have been
Vamdemon
instead of Rockmon, Miyako would have been killed. Raptor, I know you're
a huge
Miyako fan, but look at the facts. Rockmon was about to destroy the dam
and the
water would have flooded the town. It seemed as though Miyako was caring
more
about not hurting Rockmon than saving the innocent Digimon at Primary Village.
Daisuke was thinking about the village and knew that Rockmon had to be
stopped
at any cost. So he did what he thought was right.
The Phantasm
=================
End Transmission...
Allicat
Rainbow Keeper
(12/9/00 9:17:14 am)
Re: Miyako's Girlish Pacifism's gonna get her
>>Miyako...she'd better wise up.<<
"I'll tell you once; I won't tell you twice. You'd better wise up, Janet
Weiss.
Your apple pie don't taste too nice. You'd better wise up, Janet Weiss.
Ya gotta block? Well, take my advice. You better wise up, Janet Weiss."
Cyber Cody
Fresh
(12/9/00 9:36:38 am)
Re: Miyako's Girlish Pacifism's gonna get her
Quote:
"I'll tell you once; I won't tell you twice. You'd better wise up, Janet
Weiss.
Your apple pie don't taste too nice. You'd better wise up, Janet
Weiss.
Ya gotta block? Well, take my advice. You better wise up, Janet
Weiss."
"Your a hotdog but you better not try to hurt her, Frank Furter."
DarkDragyn
Fresh
(12/9/00 9:50:37 am)
Re: Miyako's Girlish Pacifism's gonna get her
LadyEtimon?What areyou talking about Punkster?And I thought Myotismon was
an
Undead digimon.
Ryoga
Fresh
(12/9/00 9:57:54 am)
Miyako Peacecraft?
Heh! I thought of the Miyako/Relena thing as soon as I saw this topic...at
least
there are some other people who think the same way I do (scary!)
Relena never got killed, no matter what she did. So all her "YAY PACIFISM!"
stuff
just made everyone hate her. I don't think it'll get Miyako killed, she'll
just become
hated by all...^_^;
Tom-
Queen Mew
Fresh
(12/9/00 12:10:17 pm)
Re: Miyako Peacecraft?
I can sympathize with Miyako, but only a little. I'd hate to hurt or kill
a digimon,
but let's look at the facts.
Either Rockmon would die:
1 life
Evil
Or Primary Village:
Hundreds maybe thousands of lives.
Good and innocent
Which whould be the bigger sacrafice?
Ziralmon
Ken-chan Lover
(12/9/00 12:14:33 pm)
Re: Miyako Peacecraft?
Miyako is my favorite female character, and she was just acting the way
she is! I
think she's over it now anyway. I think Ken got through to her Just
look in later
episodes, Silpyhmon kills Blossumon or whatever its name is ans she don't
give a
hoot.
Imagination Child
In-Training
(12/9/00 12:41:09 pm)
Re: Miyako Peacecraft?
I've just read this thread from beginning to end and I would have to agree
with
the majority. Miyako/Yolei was being a liitle silly. In the digiworld it's
obviuosly Kill
or Be Killed. She needs to understand that, I'm sure she will just like
Mimi did in
the end. But I did wonder why TK, Kari, or Mimi didn't speak up about it.
I just
knew that TK if anybody would have let Yolei know what the deal was.
Timmymon
StingmonBrother
(12/9/00 2:32:00 pm)
Re: Miyako Peacecraft?
oooooooooooooooOOhhhhh i don't know what happened to relena let me know.
and she was just being her sweet caring self as raptor said. and relena
is smart.
imagine if you were in a leo fightin the war.
SpacedOutDragon
Fresh
(12/9/00 3:12:01 pm)
Unfortuneately...
We now have to get into the whole "What is good and evil" thing. I missed
the
episodes (I'm assuming we are talking about today's and I was at Model
UN, I do
hae a life outside DM) so I'm just sort of guessing, but... did Miyako
refuse to
have Hawkmon/Aquillamon attack some Digimon who was about to take out a
dam? Well, if hundreds of thousands of Digimon were going to die, that
would
seem to justify the SOB becoming horse meat. But if Miyako was trying to
reason
with him first, then that's good too. Violence should be a last resort.
Trust me,
the reckless actions of the orgional DDs are going to come back to haunt
them.
On the other hand, if Miyako was not AT ALL willing to use violence, I
have no
sympathy. When all other means of settling conflict have been exhausted,
the
remaining method must be used...
*blinks* Whoooo. You can tell I've been in MUN all day.
Phantomon
Eh?
(12/9/00 3:40:39 pm)
Re: Unfortuneately...
Miyako is my fave character, but I do think she should toughen up.
Ishida Yamato
Super Sayin-jin
(12/9/00 3:47:15 pm)
Re: Unfortuneately...
Relena Peacecraft! That's nuts first Mimi and now Miyako! I hate Relena
Peacecraft she's so damn annoying!! I wish Heero killed her instead of
saving her.
SSJ Jupiter81
In-Training
(12/9/00 4:38:55 pm)
Miyako haters, calm down. -_-
In that sense...she reminds me of Mimi. Don't you all remember in 01...Mimi
NEVER
wanted to fight...they practically had to make her fight. I haven't watched
the
episodes yet, but from the way you all are talking, she reminds of Mimi
a lot just
from this topic.
How come, like someone mentioned, they didn't just explain to her that
sometimes
you have to fight, even if it means hurting someone. They did it with Davis
and I
think they were MEAN when they did that.
JD Turbeville
Digimon Casanova
(12/9/00 5:11:02 pm)
Re: Miyako haters, calm down. -_-
She's a Mimi in the making ... girly girl that toughens up. It's too obvious
She took her glasses off again
jt
Cyber Cody
Fresh
(12/9/00 5:12:40 pm)
Re: Miyako haters, calm down. -_-
I never could understand how Relena could be against fighting and violence
yet
like a guy who has killed hundreds of people.
Miyako needs to loosen up, besides Hawkmon does all the work anyway she's
just
the supervisor.
Krazzz
Fresh
(12/9/00 5:45:19 pm)
Lets see......
Miyako:
-Has long hair
-Into pacifism
-objects to someone that fights (hawkmon)
-acts spoiled
Relena:
-Also has long hair but in different style
-practices pacifism
-objects to EVERYONE that fights (Earth Orgainizations i.e Alliance - OZ,
Space
i.e. White Fang - Romoafeller, Lightning count/Milardo Peacecraft/Zechs
, Gundam
Pilots, etc.)
-i don't think she acts spoiled....
Argh, thats all the similaties i could come up with between Relena and
Miyako.
Ishida Yamato
Super Sayin-jin
(12/9/00 5:56:14 pm)
Re: Lets see......
Relena wasn't spoiled but were really annoying I wish Heero killed her
and come to
think of it they did looked alike.
Relena: Heero!
Heero: *take out a gun and point in to Relena* Omae O korosu
Relena: Ahhh!
Heero: *Pull trigger*
Miyako: *Standing infront of Raidramon trying to stop him) Daisuke! We
can't kill
him, he's a living creature!
Daisuke: Get out of my way! (Raidramon attack Miyako with Blue lightning)
Miyako: Ahhh!
SSJ Jupiter81
In-Training
(12/9/00 7:48:03 pm)
Re: Unfortuneately...
I just watched the eps. I really wish Kari and TK would've spoke up or
SOME
thing...but they just stood there and let the two discuss.
How come nobody is talking about Cody. He was 100% with Yolei and her decision
of NOT hurting Golemon.
Anon 24
Fresh
(12/9/00 8:06:00 pm)
Pacifism
The way I interpreted the episode, there are two possibilities explaining
Yolei's
behavior. One is that she was willing to sacrifice the entire town of digimon
so
that she could avoid feeling guilty about not killing a digimon. The other
is that
she was willing to sacrifice the entire town of digimon for her ideals
of pacifism. If
she had some goal of changing the world by eliminating violence altogether
or
something like that, I'd buy the second one, but as it is, to me, both
of those
choices don't show great moral character on her part. But character traits
like this
just give them somewhere to go with character development. If they started
out
perfect, none of them would change at all, and that would be pretty boring.
David The Cartoon
In-Training
(12/9/00 8:20:11 pm)
Re: Unfortuneately...
Here's my spin -
1. Okay, yeah, after the trauma of the last few weeks Yolie was probably
not
thinking clearly.
2. Punkster, you said that there's no way to get thought to Spire digimon
and
that they are all evil. Yet BlackWarGreymon is made of many spires, yet
seems to
possess free will, as well as compasion for..well a flower at least. I
think he is just
very confused about his existance. Anyway, Yolie was right to try at least.
3. Who's Relena? From Gundam Wing I guess? Eh, I don't get Cartoon Network.
Punkster Rockpopple
Fresh
(12/9/00 8:29:31 pm)
Re: Unfortuneately...
Dave, I'm a big fan of Black War Greymon. He's a soulless Digimon that
is creating
his own soul through his own searching...which proves to point that there
is the
potential of life in everything.
I was referring to somebody's comment that once Yolei found out that Golemmon
was a Tower instead of a Digimon, she found it easier to kill it to aleave
her own
feelings of pacificism.
You bring up a good point. What happens when BWG comes a callin'. Will
she still
be unable to fight to destroy him, even though he's
1) a bunch of towers pasted together
2) still a living creature
3) doesn't have any qualms about completely crushing her and everything
else in
both worlds.
My thought is that she ( and Cody, if he agrees with her ) better smarten
up.
ON A DIFFERENT NOTE:
The guy who said that this was a flaw of her character is right! The kids
shouldn't
be all perfect...and character flaws make for better characters.
So this silly appleheaded Yolei notion of pacifism is actually a good thing
It
adds to the show. I'm glad other characters like Davis, Ken and TK don't
agree
with her. It adds to a great character show.
PS. I don't get Cartoon Network too. I get YTV
David The Cartoon
In-Training
(12/9/00 8:46:20 pm)
Re: Unfortuneately...
No, she'll be unable to fight and destroy him because he'd whip her digi
anyway,
hehe, no offense to Hawkmon.
yeah, I agree with the character flaw thing, I was thinking that too.
Mage of Fire
EAROBUIDORA!!!
(12/9/00 8:46:53 pm)
Re: Pacifism
ken:QUIT RAGGING ON MY WOMAN OR YOU ALL DEAD,
IM GONNA WHIP YOU ALL TILL YOUR BLOOD COVERS THE ENTIRE DIGITAL
WORLD!!!!!! im sorry,im sorry,im okay,i wont yell,
i wont hurt,im nice,im sorry,im sorry,stop it,stop it,
STOP STARTING AT ME,STOP STARING AT ME!!!!!!!!
yolei:awww,its okay honey. *hugs ken*
Angelos
Rookie
(12/9/00 8:49:42 pm)
..
VenomMyotismon, MetalSeadramon (Violently!) Puppetmon ( in cold blood )
MugenDramon/MachineDramon ( Violently ) and Piedmon ( They put him in eternal
torture )
--
makes the show sound sooo cool when u put it like that :lol
excuse me you don't consider being drilled all the way through where the
crotch
area would be brutal? you should have added that on the myotismon parenthesis
who's lady etimon?
i found yolei's family part of the problem.. i don't know what they remind
me of but
im preatty sure they taught her not to kill and stuff like that, is she
budhist or
something? (not meant as a diss or anything) are her parents hippies? (again
not
meant as a diss, they made a lot of reform in the 60's) it just seems that
her
parents made her not hurt any living creature.
they just give me that impression.
Weird how she is in love with ken and tries to hate him sooo much (cause
in her
heart she beleives he's good now and loves him like she used to before
she knew
he was the kaiser, but tries to hate him so..., ken, and davis would have
been the
only new new digidestined who would have survived in 01, of those who werent
in
01.
Punkster Rockpopple
Fresh
(12/9/00 8:50:04 pm)
Re: Pacifism
You ok there Mage?
I know how to piss Mage off...hee hee...
WARGREYMON!
Hee hee hee
Arthur The Writer
Fresh
(12/9/00 8:53:22 pm)
Re: Pacifism
Hmm. Perhaps it's the fact that BWG is made up of many towers that makes
him a
free moral agent instead of just a mindless pawn.
David The Cartoon
In-Training
(12/9/00 9:07:56 pm)
Re: Pacifism
Oh heck yeah her parents are hippies!
But yellow bugs are rock! I was like spasin' when I saw one in Dig..i..monthat
hasn't happened yet, hehe.
Punkster Rockpopple
Fresh
(12/9/00 9:10:50 pm)
Re: Pacifism
It's what makes BlackWargremon one of the coolest characters.
I hope they don't screw up his voice >_<. Usually I don't care...but
in this case...I
really hope BWG has a voice like English Mewtwo or something.
As for Yolei's parents...I never thought of that. That's a new angle...and
you're
right, she would've never survived 01 with this morality of hers.
But... like I said, it makes for great characterization. I'd like to see
her in a
situation where she has to fight for her life against a Digimon with no
excuse (
Black Gear, Black Tower, Black Peanut..made up of Control Spires...just
a plain old
nasty Digimon )
Mage of Fire
EAROBUIDORA!!!
(12/9/00 10:06:24 pm)
Re: Pacifism
*crys* poor metalseadramon!!!
*lights candles around a picture of metalseadramon and machinedramon*
Mage of Fire
EAROBUIDORA!!!
(12/9/00 10:30:57 pm)
Re: Pacifism
on no,why wont any new posts show?
Angelos
Rookie
(12/9/00 11:08:50 pm)
well
i believe this topic has been settled and is dead thats y