This is the transcript from the Zaurus conference on October 2nd 1996 (When I did edit this text I set the indent to 3 inches, and the first line to 0, also the first tab is 3 inchec, you might want to ajust your wordprocessor to make the text easier to read.) The transcript starts after the SYSOP Bo have asked George what he knows about the new RUPP Zaurus POP3 email client. (3-11,George Czajkowski) Bo: it looks very much like CIS mail client (In, Out, Sent), but I understand it has more goodies....But lets Scott & Becky talk about it. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Yes, George..it uses the same interface as the built-in mail and AT&T Mail (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: Hey Scott, you know the answer. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) I don't think Becky has seen Z-Em@il yet (3-12,Becky - Rupp) No not yet (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) She will see it when it hits beta next week. (3-11,George Czajkowski) So where do we start? A little "sta tus report" from Scott? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) George: Let me finish eatin real quick then you guys c an ask the toughies ;) (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) BTW, everyone here gets 50% off a stand ($20 plus S&H) if you like. Just contact sales and mention (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) the conference. (3-10,Jon Freivald) Cool! I've been looking at those in your catalog... :) (3-11,George Czajkowski) Thank you very much, Scott!!! (Is it selling that BAD < bg>?) (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) George: Nope..sells very well actually. (3-4,ROBERT CALVERT) Good goo (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: Just teasing you... (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) I have had one for two years now. It's great. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) I know =) (3-12,Becky - Rupp) Ha ha.. (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) Are we following protocol now or can I ask a question? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) George: I guess you owe me with all the Z-Em@il teasin g I have done in the last day or so =) RAD you can ask (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) Scott: I have z-flash on back order. Will it be shipped to me here in Hong (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) Kong soon? I'm finally going back home to Denver end of October and (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) would hate to see it miss me. (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: Catalogue says $50 for wooden stand. 50% off m akes it $25.00, yet (3-11,George Czajkowski) you said $20. What's our price then? (3-15,James R. Mock) Hey!I'm here in Phoenix now, maybe I'll stop in tomorrow! (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) It was supposed to ship on the 1st of October....but they had some work left on the comm routines (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) for the Windows program It will ship shortly. Yes Jim...I saw you stopped in yesterday. George: Sorry $20. Over 50% (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) Ok. Should I send e-mail to make sure it doesn't get sh ipped to the wrong address? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) George: I thought they sold it for 40 Rick: Yes. Who took your order...do you remember? (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: Spring 96 catalogue (the latest I have) says $50. (3-12,Becky - Rupp) Nope Scott, he's right.its $50 in the catalog (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) George: What do I know So you get an even better deal (3-11,George Czajkowski) Yuppie! (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) Cathleen Cruz. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Rick: Email ccruz@rupp.com and she can make sure it gets shipped out to the right address, (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) Scott: Thanks. I will (3-20,John Rowe) Greetings to all from Down Under! (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Rick: Let me know if you have any problems. You can always reach me at sglasgow@rupp.com (3-12,Becky - Rupp) Hello John (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) Scott: Let me get this straight. The stand will actually cost only $20 total (plus S&H of course)? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Yes Joseph....plus tax if you pick it up from us or live in Arizona. But then if you pay tax, you don't pay shipping...unless We ship it to an Az address. (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) Scott: I read Zem@il will allow connection to any PPP account by using editable scripts. WIll I be able to save multiple scripts, say one for CompuServe, one for RMII, etc.? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Rick: Unfortunately, we are discussing this. At this time, no. The best it may do is save multiple dial-in profiles...but you would have to edit the script. (Bo SYSOP) Scott What will it take to add that feature? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Some extra programming of course and possibly a delay in shipping. (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: Will Z-Em@il allow me to have two access numbers for the same ISP (one local and one toll free), or multiple ISP's for that matter? (3-10,Jon Freivald) I think that's a very good feature to add. I POP one account, but from several different access providers. (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) Ouch. Will it at least support cut & paste from a document? I could keep multiples there. I think those of us who travel a lot would really need multiple script capability. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) George: It may if we have time to implement it. At this time it doesn't. (3-10,Jon Freivald) You mentioned dial-in profiles - are you doing a serial POP emulation like Eudora? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Cut and Paste is a Zaurus function available to everything so yes (3-10,Jon Freivald) Everything except CCZ! (3-17,Michael Weiler) or z-finance (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Jon: It is a PPP POP3/SMTP email client like Eudora...except not as advanced (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) CCZ doesn't have it? Hmmm. Let me pull up Z-Em@il and check real quick (3-10,Jon Freivald) It has it in the messages, but not in the access config (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Well I know they are working on giving Z-Em@il the ability to take a pasted scrapbook entry. (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: Can we have multiple setups in Z-Em@il, i.e. for more than one service provider? (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) How about shipping with current features then doing a "maintenance" release to add multiple scripts? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) George: As it sits now, no. We are going to try to make it so that you can at least have multiple dial settings...but most likely you will only have one script. Rick: We are looking at all possibilities. (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: I see we will need to labor the issue some more later ... (3-17,Michael Weiler) while we'll on the subject, what are we now looking at as a tentative release date...still november/edecember?? Scott. I would not mind to pay a small up grade fee for more features on the POP (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) I was able to paste in a new phone number without a problem. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) November (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) Scott: I understand. You know how us users are. Infinite demands for a product with very finite resources.I would pay a small upgrade fee as well. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Rick: Yes. Most of us at Rupp are users ourselves. (3-11,George Czajkowski) RAD: Could it be any other way ? (3-10,Jon Freivald) I would be happy as long as I could cut/paste the script out of a document (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) You can Jon. (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) Scott: I read recently that Rupp is working on a book reader. Can you comment on that? (3-15,James R. Mock) When will ZFlash Ship (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Yes we are. The project is on hold right now. I have played around with it and it isn't bad...but I (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) personally feel it would need a PC utility to convert text to the format it needs. James: It should ship in the next week or so I would imagine. I am sorry...I did not get an update on that project. The software is complete, and I think they are putting final touches on the PC software. Scott did they make it possible to save changes in the Zarurs (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) Scott: Follow-up. Why is it on hold? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Joseph: The PC Windows software needed better enhanced comm routines. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Bo: To be honest, I do not know. I have not been close to the Z-Flash project. I am sorry. I didn't even bring it with me tonight so that I could answer that question. (3-11,George Czajkowski) Bo: yes. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Thank you George (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: I have seen the screenshot of RuppLynx 4.0 for Windows 95, which you posted on Almighty Zaurus Discussion Forum. Can you tell us some more what features (new and imporved) it will contain? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) George: Oh yes....For anyone who thought 3.1 was a big improvement over 2.5, or 3.0, that was nothing. This is so much better. You can install Z-Apps with it which is a big plus in my book. I was going to write my own routine to do it if I couldn't talk them into it.... I hate that DOS utility. The comm routines are a lot better Tight integration with the IR200L The PC Files support is much better Full 32-bit Which means Windows NT workstation customers now can use RuppLynx. Print through function....with an IR unit...you can print directly to your printer using RuppLynx It also has a ClipBoard like function...but does not compete with Clipboard link. (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) Does Rupplynx 4.0 have support for DayTimer Organizer? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) No. Daytimer is 16-bit still as far as I know. (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: How about comm routines for lower end Wizards (YO-3x0 series, for example)? How about print through with cable (I do not have IR interface)? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) We are working on Organizer 97, I believe GoldMine 95, etc George: The YO-300 support has been enhanced...the comm routines anyways. George: At this time, print through is IR only. Hopefully by release, it will do cable as well. (3-10,Jon Freivald) Are there any plans to implement any UNIX versions of your software (RuppLynx in particular)? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Not at this time. We have talked many times about support Mac and possibly Unix, but at this time we cannot. A company once tried, but I have not heard about them so I believe that failed. (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) I haven't use RuppLynx since version 2.0 with my previous Wizards. Is there an upgrade path of some kind? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Rick: Yes. 29.99 I believe (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) I know it is 29.99 from 3.0. It may be a little more for 2.0 to 4.0 because of the improvements. But it is well worth it. (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) Thanks. (3-10,Jon Freivald) What about folks like me who just bought it a couple weeks ago? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Just keep in mind that RuppLynx 4.0 is not for Windows 3.x Jon: Upgrades are always free if the previous version was purchased within 30 days. (3-10,Jon Freivald) When are you shipping again!?!? (Going to have to check my CC statement..!) (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Besides...I've been known to give my 'online friends' a little assistance with that (3-20,John Rowe) Will Rupplynx 4 encrypt files backued up from the Zaurus so others cant read the secret data (3-23,Rob Napit) is there any compatibility if I backup the file using 4.0 and restored it using 3.0? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) John: No, but password protection is supported now Rob: The files are compatible If someone opens your RuppLynx, they cannot view secret data within RuppLynx 4.0 unless they 'unlock' RuppLynx BTW, just so everyone knows, Z-Em@il is a closed beta...so calling to request to be on the beta list won't get you anywhere. All they do is ask me anyways and that doesn't work. (Bo)Scott can you tell us about other software you have comming up? (3-25,Andy Rathbone) Yeah, like games! (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Well, if anyone saw the add in Pen Computing.. Z-GamesII but that is slated for next year. (3-25,Andy Rathbone) Any hints as to the types of games? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Hi Andy. Hmm Pen Computing had the spread. I know battleship is one (3-11,George Czajkowski) Andy: I see you only talk abotu SERIOUS software . (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Word Chains is another (which is in a prototype I played with four months ago) (3-10,Jon Freivald) Yes, I love Z-Games -- makes my hour train ride every day go faster (after reading the Zaurus forum on the Z, of course... :) (3-25,Andy Rathbone) No look here, George, what do you find yourself using in airports most often? :-) (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) We have a heavy development plan for next year..but I cannot discuss those plans in case we scrap the plans. (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) Scott: Silly question: Any Easter Eggs hidden in Z-Games or Z-Calc that you could share with your "online friends?" (3-25,Andy Rathbone) Thanks, Scott! (3-11,George Czajkowski) Andy: the same "productivity" software, of course. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Rick: Unfortunately no. I tried a long time ago to get some added....but the idea got shot down because they felt it would take more space. (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: Can you tell us what are the most frequently requested new Z-apps based on the suggestions received from users (e.g. suggestion box at the development page on your site)? (3-10,Jon Freivald) What is Word Chains? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) George: Number one is Bible (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) Agreed. Space is VERY much at a premium, but a smiley face somewhere would be cool. (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: Halleluja! (Bo-SYSOP)Scott I will take a bible, NIV please (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) George: Amen! (3-12,Becky - Rupp) I get requests for a Dictionary (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Jon: Word Chains.....hard to explain..you try to make a word dropping down a new letter somewhere in the current four letter word (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Dictionary/Thesaurus is possibly number two. Quicken compatible app used to be number one RuppLynx for Mac is int here but very low (3-10,Jon Freivald) NIV will be steep on royalties. KJV or NASB can both be published without royalties I believe. (3-23,Rob Napit) Scott: is it like scrable? (3-17,Michael Weiler) yes, a bilinguial dictionary would be great! (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: If Bible - NIV please (I will pay royalties)! (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Rob: In a sense...not really. Scott (3-20,John Rowe) Scott: A Bible for me too please :) (BO SYSOP)Bible .. NIV is worth the extra money (3-15,James R. Mock) Me too! I will take a Bible (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) George: Technically with Z-Book, you can have a bible. (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) Scott: Having let the "cat out of the bag" is there any development work going on for the Bible? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Joseph: Honestly no. (3-10,Jon Freivald) Yes, a Bible would be awesome. "Religious wars" here -- NASB is my preference... :) (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Joseph: The alpha of Z-Book had part of the bible in it though (3-15,James R. Mock) Didn't see my comment, a Bible for me, too, please (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) With the book reader - development has been put on hold - could one put the entire Bible into card memory in some type of compressed format? (3-10,Jon Freivald) If it will help, I've got the full text of KJV in ASCII (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: I would accept NASB as second choice (if NIV does not go through). (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Joseph: With Z-Book..yes. Z-Book will ship eventually. (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) Well Scott, it appears that demand for some type of Bible is quite high! (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Jon: I actually had a couple of versions I downloaded in text that I was going to convert to Z-Book but got busy and the project got put on hold temporarily. (3-25,Andy Rathbone) I'm curious: Just to put all these requests into a time/man power perspective, how many people work at Rupp? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Joseph: Yep. For the 800 series it was the best seller ...also the highest in fraud (3-10,Jon Freivald) And I will "settle" for NIV - even paying the royalties. (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) Scott: please explain "fraud"... (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) Way off topic here, but I'm looking at an Australian warship sailing through Victoria harbour here in Hong Kong. Hmmmm.... (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) So besides Bible...what other apps would you like to see next year? (Bo SYSOP)A bible.. and Internet access (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) Bible, Bible, Bible, Bible, Bible, etc. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Joseph: Credit card fraud, mostly. It was around the time I had first started at Rupp (about five years ago) (3-25,Andy Rathbone) RAD: Sounds like you need the Japanese Zaurus so you could upload a picture for us with its digital camera! (3-11,George Czajkowski) Text based web browser and newsgroup reader!!! (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Bo: You will have Internet access (3-17,Michael Weiler) second the ineternet access ... and a Duden (BO SYSOP) Scott can you tell me more (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Bo: Well, Z-Em@il for one. That is technically some sort of access (3-10,Jon Freivald) Yes -- internet -- I presume the IP stack in Z@Mail is single threaded -- will it be usable with, say, a Z version of Lynx? (Bo SYSOP)Scott I want to surf with text only (3-20,John Rowe) Scott: How about a learning IR remote ap so you can use Zaurus as a TV remote? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Jon: The stack can be used for other applications we develop. John: hehehe I would love to have it work with my stereo since my remote mysteriously disappeared Bo: And someday you probably will (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: Z-Books is very important. Just give it proper PC module, please. (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) I guess that tells what you value most... (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) Wouldn't the Z's IR port have to be beefed up? 24 inches is the outer limit right now for unit-to-unit, right? (3-10,Jon Freivald) So will the Z-Em@il install be 2 parts - one for the stack and one for the POP client, or will there be multiple copies of the stack at some point? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) George: I agree. (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) How 'bout Rupplynx backup on a card so we can select what to backup\restore? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Jon: Z-Em@il is one application with stack built-in to it. Hi Jim...and what about the backup? Jon: But the stack can be used in another application. (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) A card is super fast, how 'bout a program to bakup to a card, play around with the ap order & then send it back. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Jon: The Zaurus doesn't have the ability to call a 'library' like Windows calls a DLL to do TCP/IP or anything else (3-17,Michael Weiler) Scott, you probabaly haven't had too many requests, but is there any chance for for something like a Duden (german dictionary)?? (3-10,Jon Freivald) Bummer... :( (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Jim: I am sorry....I am lost here...Can you explain in more detail? (3-23,Rob Napit) so when can we see the ZM@IL ? (Bo SYSOP)good question (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Michael: We have been tossing around the idea of a translation program like there was for the 7000 (Bo SYSOP) Scott that would be great. Danish to English (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Rob: Z-Em@il is slated to ship next month. (3-17,Michael Weiler) sounds like a but...? (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) I still use that tranlation app in my wife's 8200. I'd be first in line to buy one of those with a well thought-out Zaurus interface. (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) Scott: Any delays on Z-Em@il at this point? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Zaurus development gets costly so we tend to be careful about the projects we get into. (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) I need to rearrange my CONTACT as web is off screen. Doing it via a PC is slow, I'd like to use a card to'fro. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Joseph: Nope. We are on target still which is quite nice. Our closed beta is supposed to start on Monday. (3-23,Rob Napit) Jim's idea to have a selective restore is a very good idea (3-10,Jon Freivald) I guess that means you didn't pick me, eh? :( (3-20,John Rowe) oTScott: How about an app to produce tone dialling sounds from your CONTACT entry so you can dial someone ala Psion? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Jon: I haven't picked anyone yet....except for a few select people who I always include on my personal beta list because of the feedback they give. John: The Zaurus really isn't loud enough to do that I don't think. (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) Did anyone ask for Backgammon against the Zaurus? (3-17,Michael Weiler) I did! (3-10,Jon Freivald) I agree (Z not loud enough) -- I barely hear the alarms, and that's if I'm listening for them... (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) We have gotten a few requests on our web Product Suggestions page. (3-13,Michael Gosson) Scot: How bout a GOOd ap to replace the ill terminal program in the Z It's poor at best (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Michael: That is a requested quite a bit too. (3-20,John Rowe) Scott: Thanks... bummer about that. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) We haven't made plans for that, but perhaps we can. (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) How 'bout Mike & I playing Backgammon with our Z's via Rupps web site,,,a new idea for a web. Jim: I am still trying to get IR implemented. (3-17,Michael Weiler) Jim: sounds good to me... (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Battleship would be perfect for IR unit to unit (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) Two-player domination via IR would be GREAT in certain meetings I have to attend...! (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) I'd personally like to see a client for the Z for that online gaming Zone (3-13,Michael Gosson) What's the dtermining factor if an idea becomes reality (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Rick: I agree. I tried to get it for the 9600 version when we were first developing it. (3-17,Michael Weiler) Scott: since there are quite a number of on-line apps planned for which there is no room (3-17,Michael Weiler) is there any chance of an updated side-car modem so we can use the pc cards and modem at thev same time? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Michael: First, demand. We have to be able to break even. Second, length of the project and cost of the project. And of course the Zaurus having the capability to do it. (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) Would power requirements be excessive in a two-player game via IR? Say, along the lines of a modem or PC Link? (3-13,Michael Gosson) Who truly determines the demand for a new product? other than you (G) (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) When a Newton gets loaded up it slows down like the Z. Any way we could speed up a TEL lookup with a loaded program that only gets the name & phone number? 2 lines. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Michael: I have suggested that many times...high speed sidecar modem..it would still draw a lot of power, which is why Sharp probably doesn't do it, and it would be a tad expensive. We are working on a lot of accessories, so you should see us kicking but in that area next year...not that we have been beaten this year by much. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Michael: Quite a few people actually...how many Zaurus users are there? (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) Pen Computing says 90,000. (3-10,Jon Freivald) Modem - yes - do you guys do H/W (other than the cables)? A14.4 sidecar would be an immediate purchase! Especially if power consumption was closer to the current one instead of the PC Card modems. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Jim: Are you speaking of lookink up an address out of Contacts for say...Z-Em@il? That is fast (3-13,Michael Gosson) How many Z's you sell a year... ;-) (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: DO you have, even approx, sales figures for all Z models for all time? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Jon: Typically, we have always concentrated on getting the stuff elsewhere, but we now are focusing on designing and having someone manufacturer our own stuff. The ISOTA line is what everything will be. George: I couldn't disclose our sales figures ;) (3-10,Jon Freivald) ISOTA? (3-25,Andy Rathbone) Jim: That 90,000 figure explains why you won't see a Zaurus for Dummies, IMHO... (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: I did not mean RUPP, but whole industry. (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) A little larger sidecar could house one AAA battery, that would power 14.4 wouldn't it? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Andy: Ahhh not exactly..but how about training videos? We will have one for 5800, RuppLynx Z-Apps, etc George: Sharp doesn't share their numbers. (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) Right, Andy, although there is a video on how to use the Z. (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: have you seen figures from other industry analists? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) If we had those number, we could probably justify more programming. George: I see figures all the time...none of them really mesh together so how do you know who is right? (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: Ball park? (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) Does Sharp share any marketing data with you to help you understand demographics, market size, etc? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Well...I saw an article that stated Sharp had 12% of the market. *shrug* Not sure I would bet my life on that Rick: Not really. (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: Any prize contest today ? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) George: hehe I am actually thinking about that (3-25,Andy Rathbone) Funny enough, so were we! (3-20,John Rowe) Scott: Are there going to be any giveaways today? I'm online with my 5800FX here? :) (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: Can I play, Scott? Can I? Huh? (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) Psion touts they're the largest & analysts confirm it. (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) Prizes? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) George: This one you won't need to. (3-23,Rob Napit) go ahead shoot it (3-13,Michael Gosson) Prizes George?.... We need a good terminal program, I'll settle for that prize (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: But I REALLY need that ISOTA case ! (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Ok this is to be included on the Z-Em@il elite beta list (3-17,Michael Weiler) Jim: in Germany Psion representation is overwellmenly better than that of the Zaurus (3-17,Michael Weiler) Scott: I'll also go for the beta list (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) Yeah, I heard that too Mike. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Ok...easy question...everyone ready? (3-10,Jon Freivald) yep (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) yes (3-23,Rob Napit) yap (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) yes (3-13,Michael Gosson) yep (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) Sock it to us. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) What is the estimated price for Z-Em@il when it ships? (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) 49.99 (3-10,Jon Freivald) 79 $(3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) 79.99 75(3-17,Michael Weiler) 50 (3-25,Andy Rathbone) 49.99 (3-21,Brooke Kruger) 50 ? (3-23,Rob Napit) 79.99 (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) The price we plan on selling it for? (3-13,Michael Gosson) 79.99 (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) 24.99 (3-25,Andy Rathbone) 39.99? (3-17,Michael Weiler) 49.99 + shipping (3-23,Rob Napit) 79.99+shipping (3-11,George Czajkowski) Free for next prize contest? (3-25,Andy Rathbone) 89.99? (3-20,John Rowe) 49.99 (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) Free with a Z from Rupp (3-15,James R. Mock) 49.99 (3-25,Andy Rathbone) A hundred smackers. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) The price was actually posted once in the Almighty PDA forum...everywhere else...was an early estimation. (3-25,Andy Rathbone) Are any of us close? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Only one person was right...and they can't play ;) (3-13,Michael Gosson) free with a Z stand...(g) (3-25,Andy Rathbone) 75 (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) 75??? (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: Bo was 1 cent off (3-25,Andy Rathbone) 75 bucks? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) half of you stated the very first price I posted (3-25,Andy Rathbone) 74.99 (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) Let me give it to Mike, my Backgammon partner. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Andy wins (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) I know George ;) (3-25,Andy Rathbone) YES! (3-15,James R. Mock) please, please, please (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Andy: In order to take advantage though, you have to email me at sglasgow@rupp.com. (3-25,Andy Rathbone) Will do. (3-23,Rob Napit) can i get one also .... (3-25,Andy Rathbone) (By the way, that wooden Zaurus stand I won last time is WAY cool.) (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) Good job, Andy! (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) BTW, if anyone wants to beat up someone because Z-Em@il is a closed beta, beat me up cause I am the one that made it that way. (3-20,John Rowe) How much is it? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Andy: Glad you like it (3-17,Michael Weiler) Jim, how bout ian develop or own backgammon game? (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: Cannot aford air fare to Scottsdale . (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) John: Z-Em@il will be 74.99 (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) Who came up with the spelling? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) George: Good...but you wouldn't beat me up cause yer on my list :P (3-12,Becky - Rupp) George: I can smack him around for ya (3-11,George Czajkowski) Right you are, Scott! (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Jim: That is a long story. It was originally Z-Mail but that is already a product. Then Z-email then Z-Email then Byron (CEO) said Z-EM@il (3-11,George Czajkowski) Becky - do not strain yourself. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Hush Becky. (3-25,Andy Rathbone) And now, I'll be signing off and give the rest of you a chance (if there are any other goodies to be given away). Thanks, Scott, I'll be in contact! (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Just cause yer close doesn't mean ya can Ok Andy. Thanks for stopping by (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) Bye Andy (3-12,Becky - Rupp) Bye Andy (3-11,George Czajkowski) See ya, Andy! (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) Later Dude! (3-23,Rob Napit) see ya (3-25,Andy Rathbone) Good luck, everybody, and I'll see you online. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Ok so who has Windows 95/NT and would like to be the first on the block to see RuppLynx 4.0 (except Andy who won something already) (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) me (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) me (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Ok (3-23,Rob Napit) I (3-20,John Rowe) Anybody else out there using their Z to attend this conference? (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) yes (3-17,Michael Weiler) yes (3-15,James R. Mock) I'm using my Zaurus now. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Everyone ready for the next question? (3-13,Michael Gosson) Fire (3-15,James R. Mock) Bye Andy (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) ready (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: Do I play, Oh Ruffless One? (3-23,Rob Napit) go ahead (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) No George. You get the software already :P (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: Booo, these conferences are no fun...! (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Ok here goes What new feature in RuppLynx 4.0 is the one I personally like the most? (3-10,Jon Freivald) installing zapps (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Jon Wins (3-10,Jon Freivald) I paid attention! (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) Nice job Jon (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Jon: Email me at sglasgow@rupp.com stating you won the RuppLynx 4.0 sneak peek (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) You're too fast for me. (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) We were supposed to be paying attention? I better turn off Domination! (3-10,Jon Freivald) Will do!! (3-13,Michael Gosson) Too fast... (g) (3-10,Jon Freivald) Only 70wpm on a full sized keyboard (3-23,Rob Napit) it's too fast for me (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Hmmm....we need one more prize don't we? yeah Scott (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) After all...we have one more new application shipping soon. (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) sure (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: We do? Can I, huh? George... You know the answer (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) George: Well if you want to play, I have to take you off the list of people that always gets the software (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: Yes, Master . (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: yes was to your first statement. (3-12,Becky - Rupp) Ha ha ha (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) So you want to be taken off? hehehe (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: Please keep me on the list, I beg you! (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) George: Bah...you know you will be on for a long time (as long as I live) cause you participate and give great feedback. Even if you do give me a hard time sometimes. So who wants to win Z-Flash? (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: As you say, Sir! (3-12,Becky - Rupp) Scott, I would think you were used to getting a hard time by now (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Becky :P (3-23,Rob Napit) let me try my luck again (3-10,Jon Freivald) can I try for 2? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) No Jon....you can only win once. Makes it fair. Sorry (3-10,Jon Freivald) what I thought -- just checking (3-20,John Rowe) me,me,me,me (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Hey George...you beta tested Z-Flash...I'll let you ask the question (and earn your keep ) (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: Let me think! (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Bo: People can create their own Z-flash stacks and share them, yes. (3-15,James R. Mock) I do, see how long it takes my request to get across! (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: got one, may be difficult. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) George. Tis ok...shoot (3-11,George Czajkowski) Here is the contest question: In what way is the on-line Help implemented in (3-11,George Czajkowski) Z-Flash? (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) AS a stack. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Dang (3-11,George Czajkowski) RAD got it! (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) WOW!!!! What a lucky guess! (3-10,Jon Freivald) what was that about fast!?!? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Rick has speedy fingers (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Hmm our Sharp Japan friends left. (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) great job RAD (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) That's at 4800 bps from Hong Kong. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Rick: Email sglasgow@rupp.com stating you won Z-Flash (3-11,George Czajkowski) Congrats Rick! (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) Scott: one last q? (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) Will do. Thanks Scott! (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) All the questions you have Joseph. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Thank you George for doing that one. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Anytime Rick. (3-11,George Czajkowski) You are as always welcome, Scott! (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) Did I understand correct that Z-Book will be shipping soon? (3-11,George Czajkowski) Nope. It is on hold. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) No Joseph. The product should ship first qtr 97 (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) Has it gone to Beta yet? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) I may try to get a copy of Z-Book to my closed list for feedback...and try to allow them to post about it to get feedback. No Jospeh. It was in alpha about 2 months ago. It is a working product but not complete (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) We usually go to beta one month before shipping (3-16,RAD (Rick Davis)) Scott: Thanks for making yourself available here! I'm bowing out to get back to work. It's almost lunch time and I've done no work this morning. The client may not be happy, but I am! Bye! (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) We usually only do a 2 week outside beta (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) Will it support landscape & portrait? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Rick: Thank you for stopping by! (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) Scott: How many people are on your "closed" list (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) No Jim. (3-17,Michael Weiler) Scott, may I ask another question? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Joseph: It is a very small list these days. I have been so busy that I have lost touch with quite a few people. Usually SysOPs and some real close customers who always provide good information/feedback to me personally. (3-17,Michael Weiler) You say you have a lot in the works for 97'... (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Yes...in a sense we do. (3-9,Joseph W. Coffman) Scott: Thanks for your time. As always, I have enjoyed this conference immensely. Keep up the good work! Bye. (3-13,Michael Gosson) Scott : How difficult would it be to have someone implement a simple input screen, say to fetch data from one or two of the data files. Something like a simple order entry screen? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) More aggressive development plan and accessories plan (3-17,Michael Weiler) are you generally going in the direction of zuarus/pc are also software for zaurus only users?? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Michael: Not hard. Palmware actually does a lot of stuff like that. Michael: We have quite a few plans. We have grown to the tune of about five total companies.ll any of the Palmware stuff? (3-13,Michael Gosson) Is anything currently available for the Z? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Bo: We are hoping to partner up with Palmware. Nothing I can say at this time though. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Michael: Email Patrick at Palmware....I know they have done some vertical market stuff. Also, Pygmy will be selling Joey Forms. (3-12,Becky - Rupp) Well Good Night All !! (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) BTW, has anyone picked up The forms software from Pygmy (Joey Technologies software program)? If so, what do you think of it? (3-17,Michael Weiler) do you have an e-mail address for Patrick at Palmware?? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Nite Becky and thanks for watching (3-11,George Czajkowski) Bye, Becky! Thank you for being here... (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) Good night Becky, thanks for being here. (Bo SYSOP)I am testing hypertext for the Z right now. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Who here visits our web site? (3-11,George Czajkowski) I do, Scott. (3-10,Jon Freivald) I've been out there a couple times (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Hyper Text? (Bo SYSOP)Yep.. It is a small app, made by Patrick, which lets you create hyper text on the Zaurus and jump. you can also call graphics. (3-2,Leslie D.) I do too! (3-13,Michael Gosson) What the is Joey? (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) I do sorta 2X to 3X/week, why? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Anyone have suggestions on what they would like to see? (3-11,George Czajkowski) Micahel, Joey is a company developing form generation software for Z. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Joey Technologies is a development company that put out Forms software for the Zaurus..or will (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) soon; (3-20,John Rowe) I do too (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: Your picture! (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) Pictures of Becky (3-13,Michael Gosson) I'l check it out, thanx ott (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) George: hehe never! Actually..I have been in there on the live video cam when we had it on there. (3-11,George Czajkowski) Hey, Leslie! I did not notice you there! (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Heya Leslie! (3-20,John Rowe) What is Forms software ? (3-2,Leslie Dutton) I got here late and you're all going home! (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: You must be kidding. It updates slowly and one cannot dsicern anything any way, it is so small and dark... (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) Leslie, 11:30, just come home? /(3-2,Leslie Dutton) Yah...a late day at work! (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) I am going no where Leslie. Maybe we need a prize for the one who is late? (3-2,Leslie Dutton) YES!!!!!! (3-11,George Czajkowski) Yes, Scott! Give her a chance! (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) George: That is at night.....and also we turned it off so all you have is darkness from the last capture (3-2,Leslie Dutton) I loved the last prize...those games keep me busy... (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) how about a stand? (3-2,Leslie Dutton) Cool! (3-13,Michael Gosson) How bout one?? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) You want one? (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: Great live picture then! (just teasing) (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Leslie? (3-2,Leslie Dutton) Sure! (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) George: Well if you look at our page, it isn't linked anymore ;) (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Leslie: Email me and I will give you details for a free one (except S&H) email me at sglasgow@rupp.com (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: You mean the camera broke ? (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) Stand? I just got a Hi-Rizer, anyone want it? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) George: No...just truned it off. (3-2,Leslie Dutton) I love it...for once I am a winner for being LATE!! (3-10,Jon Freivald) What's a Hi-Rizer? (3-17,Michael Weiler) what' a hi-rize (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Leslie: (3-2,Leslie Dutton) A hi-rizer? I thought I was a LATE rizer! (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) See our library, it's a Zaurus stand. Don't buy it. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) So for those who actually use our web site, except for updated annoucements, online registration, (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) online ordering, sample streamed video, and SHOCKED pages..what would you like to see on our web site? (3-10,Jon Freivald) Obviously not Rupp's, eh? ;) (3-11,George Czajkowski) Jim: They advertize that Hi-Rizer for other PDAs/HPC's as well. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Oh, we will also have surveys where our 'customers' can vote on accessories Jon: we were going to sell those but opted not to At least last I heard (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) I'm going to do a test report in the forum this weekend. Bottom line, buy an extra REBOOT SRAM card. (3-13,Michael Gosson) Updated and published prises for ALL your products (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: More links, more info (maybe on line version of your bulletine, some basic FAQ maybe, etc.) (3-13,Michael Gosson) prices. Sorry (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Actually, we had a RuppLynx FAQ that Becky did hidden in there..it needed work. Michael: Online ordering and catalog coming soon I have been working like a DOG to get it up (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: You took away Unix info file. Can you put it back, please? (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) George: we post our newsletter on our web site. (3-13,Michael Gosson) I'm surprized you don't publish any prices for accessories (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) George: Yes..I have that some where from my good friend Herb who I lost touch with (3-17,Michael Weiler) good night all ... I still have some work to do before I fot to bed. (3-11,George Czajkowski) Scott: I have seen the newsletter there once - but I thought it was an intro. (3-13,Michael Gosson) How aout some more Z tips? (3-20,John Rowe) Gotta go guys. Keep up the good work Rupp dudes... farewell from Australia. (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) See ya' Backgammon partner. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Michael: Prices change so much...and people do not realize the amount of time and work that goes in our pages....I am working on static pages for the catalog and online ordering (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Bye John and thanks for coming by. Michael: Those were the tips from here (3-13,Michael Gosson) (G) (3-11,George Czajkowski) Bye John! See ya! (3-10,Jon Freivald) Yes, maintaining web pages is a lot of work... (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Oh..if no one has noticed..we now have 24 hr technical support (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) We have out sourced for after hours. (3-13,Michael Gosson) I frequent your sight almost daily, just to see what's cooking (3-5,Jim Christian (Syso) Yeah, of all the sites I have in ZWEB.TXT it's the best, good job Scott. (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Michael: You will see changes soon. I have been so wrapped up...and my team have only made some minor changes (which you may or may not have noticed)...mostly fluff stuff (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Jim: sharp actually has a great site now... (3-13,Michael Gosson) I've got your sight memorized.... three D pens.. (g) (3-10,Jon Freivald) Yep -- toomany graphics, and I don't think the server is that fast either -- hit them from a T-1 connected machine the other day and it was still sluggish... (3-7,Rupp Technology Cor) Michael: Did you see the newest pen thing? You can actually select a pen and the graphic changes. Netscape only though *****This is where the transcript ends.*****