#: 48992 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    10-Jun-96  18:40:51
Sb: #48962-ZFinance, Wow!
Fm: Richard Rodriguez 76641,570
To: Tony P. Papa 103224,3435 (X)

<<1) Am I to assume that it will only support accounts tracked through 1999
only? In this day of 'throw it out after a year software this might be a
valid assumption on Rupps part.>>

I think you're right.  If you don't believe that there will be any more
incarnations of the Z or ZFinance by 2000 then I'd like to sell you some swamp
land (g).

<<2) Have you figured out a way to set up a transaction to occur twice a
month. I can only find a monthly, daily and weekly option.>>

Sorry, no.  That's not how I'll be using ZFinance.  I'll make all regular
entries in Quicken and upload those things I do on the road, so as not to
spend an hour with Quicken on my return.

<<3) Do you know of any application, available or announced, for the Zaurus
that will track investment accounts? I've downloaded the spreadsheet from the
library, but I'd like to be able to use a Z-Finance type package.>>

Accutrade 800-494-8942 in Omaha has a program that allows you to do ETrades
via the Z.  Believe you can also track stocks.  They charge $28. plus $0.02 a
share.  Guess you could also set up a spreadsheet and chart. (a little more
work than I have time for at present.)

Rich Rodriguez


#: 53567 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    12-Jul-96  21:23:36
Sb: #53516-I Like My Prize!
Fm: John W. McKone 104445,664
To: Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) 75300,2517


PMFJI,  but I had the same problem with my mac/Z exchange.  It turns out that
you have to convert the .QIF file in the PC files area to a document.  You
then send it to your mac from the documents area of your Z using the Sharp
DEU.

It appears that this is the only way to get the mac to recognize the .QIF as a
text file.  Apparently everything that comes from the PC files area is
interpreted as a binary file.

The other workaround is to use Rupplynx with Softwindows.  I can transfer .QIF
files from the PC area in windows, and Quicken on the mac recognizes them
fine.

Hope this helps.

John McKone, RPT
from my Z2


#: 53675 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    14-Jul-96  08:47:07
Sb: #53574-Z-finance
Fm: George Czajkowski 74131,2121
To: Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) 75300,2517

Bo,

I just transferred data from two accounts in my Z-Finance (Cash and Chequing)
to Quicken 4.0 for Windows without any problem.

I exported tagged entries to PC files area, then used DEU 1.1 to import both
files to my PC, and then imported each of them into Quicken.

I noticed that when transferring Cash data I had to manually add ".QIF"
extension at the end of the file name (to have "Cash.qif").  In case of
Chequing account, Z-Finance did it automatically ("Checking.qif").

So, it works in my case.  If you have still problems, I strongly suggest you
talk to Scott Glasgow.

Cheers,

R. J. (George) Czajkowski
CIS - 74131,2121
Internet - georgec@cyberus.ca
-----------------------------
writing at 11:42 AM (EDT),
on July 14, 1996


#: 53698 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    14-Jul-96  13:33:16
Sb: #53516-#Z-finance
Fm: Richard Rodriguez 76641,570
To: Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) 75300,2517 (X)

Bo:

PMFJI.  I've made the .qif connection on the Z, Mac, and PC. On the Mac, just
save as text.

Rich

#: 53711 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    14-Jul-96  17:39:09
Sb: #53698-Z-finance
Fm: Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) 75300,2517
To: Richard Rodriguez 76641,570

Richard,

Thank you for jumping in,  You mean to convert the PCfile to documents and
then import it to the Mac?

   Bo

(via SHARP Zaurus ZR-5800)


#: 53857 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    15-Jul-96  18:10:17
Sb: #53711-Z-finance
Fm: Richard Rodriguez 76641,570
To: Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) 75300,2517

Bo:

Save the Z.qif file as Mac text, then import to Mac Quicken.  It's that
simple.  Mac Quicken will not recognize Win.text.

-Rich

#: 53803 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    15-Jul-96  11:23:58
Sb: #53376-some questions about rupp
Fm: Rupp Technology Corp. 75300,1232
To: Marcus Green 100445,2577

>>Unfortunately, my German version of quicken uses the file
>>format *.qdt (perhaps a German version of *.qif) which is

Marcus, the QIF format is similar to CSV in that it is a generic format used
by Quicken and Microsoft Money to exchange data with third party applications.
You should be able to click File-Import to read the data into Quicken.

Regards,
Scott - Rupp Technology Corp.
sglasgow@rupp.com
800-844-7775 Sales
602-941-4789 Sales
602-941-5505 Fax
602-941-5602 Technical Support
http://www.rupp.com/


#: 53925 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    16-Jul-96  03:07:05
Sb: #53803-#some questions about rupp
Fm: Marcus Green 100445,2577
To: Rupp Technology Corp. 75300,1232

Scott,

thanks for your suggestion. I just tried it and it did accept QIF files for
importing but says it can't read my file. Hmm, well I'll play with it some
more. I don't use quicken anymore, because Z-Finance does all I need! I just
want to use it as a backup, in case I drop my Zaurus into Space.

Regards,
Marcus

#: 53993 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    16-Jul-96  13:13:40
Sb: #53925-some questions about rupp
Fm: John W. McKone 104445,664
To: Marcus Green 100445,2577

PMFJI, but I've mentioned this before, and I guess it bears repeating..

If you happen to be a Mac user (like me) the .QIF files exported from the Z's
PC files area are seen as binary files by the Mac.  Quicken will only open
text files.  The work around is to convert the .QIF files in the PC files area
to documents then send them from the documents area to your mac via the DEU.

Hope this helps!

John McKone, RPT
from my Z


#: 54086 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    17-Jul-96  02:08:12
Sb: #54027-Z-Finance
Fm: Marcus Green 100445,2577
To: Arnie Oorsouw 75762,2324

<What amount of space does the Z-Finance take up ?>

230 KB

Don't know about  Flash cards.

Marcus (via Z2)


#: 54221 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    18-Jul-96  00:59:49
Sb: #Z-Finance
Fm: Janet Ridgway 100306,3262
To: All

I just bought the ZFinance. I live in Italy and when trying to set up a
checking account cannot seem to enter an amount of  Lire 11.456.900 for
example. I get an invalid amount message. I hope I haven't wasted my money
here.

Thanks,

Janet

#: 54240 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    18-Jul-96  06:09:35
Sb: #54221-Z-Finance
Fm: Marcus Green 100445,2577
To: Janet Ridgway 100306,3262 (X)

Janet,

I tried it and it seems that the number is too large. You can notice that in
the index view of an account, the number wouldn't fit either. It is two digits
too large. Obviously, this is a problem for you and for Italy.

Try eMailing *Michael Weiler 103732,71*
He's looking for Z-Finance software.

Regards,
Marcus


#: 54218 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    18-Jul-96  00:04:23
Sb: #54027-Z-Finance
Fm: Mike Andrews 103155,1643
To: Arnie Oorsouw 75762,2324

Arnie,

According to the documentation, the program cannot be installed to a Flash ROM
card; only main memory or an SRAM card.  I've dedicated a 512Kb SRAM card to
Z-Finance and personally like this setup because I can remove the card and put
it in another Zaurus and both the application and the data are on the card.

Good day -- M.A.


#: 54293 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    18-Jul-96  12:39:26
Sb: #54124-Z-2 Questions
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: JOHN  A FLEMING 71211,1544

John,

My experience is that it overwrites the DATA but not the Z-Finance PROGRAM.

However the really upsetting bit is that whilst it doesn't overwrite Z-Finance
(good) it does overwrite all the data which you have input to Z-Finance (very
bad).

There ought to be an option on Z-Finance to keep the data in Main memory and
I've already suggested that.

Make sure that you have an installable version of Z-Finance in case there have
been any recent changes to the way SRAM backups are done!

regards,
Kable (Winchester UK)


#: 54437 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    19-Jul-96  10:11:11
Sb: #54221-Z-Finance
Fm: Rupp Technology Corp. 75300,1232
To: Janet Ridgway 100306,3262

>>I just bought the ZFinance. I live in Italy and when trying to
>>set up a checking account cannot seem to enter an amount of
>>Lire 11.456.900 for example. I get an invalid amount message. I
>>hope I haven't wasted my money here.

I will pass this information along to development. Perhaps we can find a way
to support Lire.

Regards,
Scott - Rupp Technology Corp.
sglasgow@rupp.com
800-844-7775 Sales
602-941-4789 Sales
602-941-5505 Fax
602-941-5602 Technical Support
http://www.rupp.com/


#: 54434 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    19-Jul-96  10:11:08
Sb: #54027-Z-Finance
Fm: Rupp Technology Corp. 75300,1232
To: Arnie Oorsouw 75762,2324

>>What amount of space does the Z-Finance take up ?

Approx. 230K

>>Will it be able to be installed on a 2MB flash disk with CCZ
>>already on it ?

You cannot install it to flash but you can install it to SRAM.

Regards,
Scott - Rupp Technology Corp.
sglasgow@rupp.com
800-844-7775 Sales
602-941-4789 Sales
602-941-5505 Fax
602-941-5602 Technical Support
http://www.rupp.com/


#: 58418 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    15-Aug-96  20:17:28
Sb: #Z-Finance Install Snafu
Fm: Ann Harrell 76161,55
To: All

Well . . I should have read those threads more carefully about installing
software.

I received my copy of Z-Finance today. I read thru the book as I was getting
ready for bed. I thought, "Well,this is easy. I'll just go ahead and install
it and then I can check it out tomorrow at work." Sigh . . . no such luck. I
did the PC link . . even checked it using Rupplynx. When the box came up for
the install . I changed it to com3 where my cable is plugged in. The activity
bar came up, but nothing happened.My Z is less than 50% full and I was trying
to install to main memory, but I do have a blank SRAM ($49) card.

Any ideas, guys?

Ann Harrell
A total failure at getting her network or Z-finance to work.
annh@juno.com
annharel@aol.com
76161.55@compuserve.com
10:16 PM, 8/15/96



#: 58427 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    15-Aug-96  21:54:45
Sb: #58418-#Z-Finance Install Snafu
Fm: Robert Burke 74517,321
To: Ann Harrell 76161,55 (X)

Ann,
   I had to copy my *.zpm file to my PC Files area and install from there.
(Use the card's PC files area if you need the room and choose "Install -
Main".)  This is the only way I could get it to work.  Don't know why.  Hope
this helps!

Regards,
   - Rob -

#: 58435 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    15-Aug-96  22:38:09
Sb: #58427-#Z-Finance Install Snafu
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: Robert Burke 74517,321 (X)

Robert,

That is the correct way.

regards,
Kable (Winchester UK)

#: 58571 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    16-Aug-96  12:45:39
Sb: #58435-#Z-Finance Install Snafu
Fm: George Czajkowski 74131,2121
To: Kable Singh 100434,2542 (X)

>>That is the correct way.<<

That is one of the TWO correct ways.  Running install program which came on
the diskette also works OK.  It just sometimes takes a few minutes for the
progress bar to start moving in the install window of the install program.  I
guess some people are very impatient and just assume that it does not work and
quit install program.

Cheers,

George

#: 58584 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    16-Aug-96  14:07:30
Sb: #58571-#Z-Finance Install Snafu
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: George Czajkowski 74131,2121 (X)

Thanks George.

regards,
Kable

#: 58674 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    17-Aug-96  07:57:56
Sb: #58584-Z-Finance Install Snafu
Fm: George Czajkowski 74131,2121
To: Kable Singh 100434,2542 (X)

>>Thanks George. <<

You are welcome.  Just two more things:

1.  Make sure the unit is unlocked.
2.  If using Windows 95, restart your computer in DOS (command prompt) mode
before running install program.

Cheers,

George

#: 58515 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    16-Aug-96  09:09:15
Sb: #58427-#Z-Finance Install Snafu
Fm: Ann Harrell 76161,55
To: Robert Burke 74517,321 (X)

Robert:

>   I had to copy my *.zpm file to my PC Files area and install from there.
(Use the card's PC files area if you need the room and choose "Install -
Main".)  This is the only way I could get it to work.  Don't know why.  Hope
this helps!<

Well, it doesn't help much <g> I've never used PC Files much and I'm being
particularly dense today. If you remember the name of the thread, let me know
and I'll look back thru it when I get home from work.

**Ann Harrell via Zaurus 5800!**
 9:19am  8/16/1996

#: 58631 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    16-Aug-96  22:15:05
Sb: #58515-Z-Finance Install Snafu
Fm: Robert Burke 74517,321
To: Ann Harrell 76161,55 (X)

>> If you remember the name of the thread...

Ann,

   Sorry, I don't.  Just use your DEU to load it to your PC Files area and
choose "install" from there.  It will work.

Regards,
   - Rob -

#: 58539 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    16-Aug-96  10:32:11
Sb: #58418-#Z-Finance Install Snafu
Fm: Rupp Technology Corp. 75300,1232
To: Ann Harrell 76161,55 (X)

>>tomorrow at work." Sigh . . . no such luck. I did the PC link .
>>. even checked it using Rupplynx. When the box came up for the
>>install . I changed it to com3 where my cable is plugged in.
>>The activity bar came up, but nothing happened.My Z is less

Usually means your Zaurus is locked. Kind of irritating I think since I
usually forget to unlock my Zaurus before uploading an application (which I do
frequently).

Do you have a password assigned to your Zaurus?

Ann, be sure to patch your Z-Finance if it is 1.0 and not 1.01. The patch is
in our forum library (GO RUPP) and on our web site.

Regards,
Scott Glasgow
sglasgow@rupp.com
Rupp Technology Corporation
Sales: 800-844-7775 or 602-941-4789
Support: 602-941-5602 or support@rupp.com
Fax: 602-941-5505
http://www.rupp.com/



#: 58592 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    16-Aug-96  15:32:59
Sb: #58539-Z-Finance Install Snafu
Fm: Ann Harrell 76161,55
To: Rupp Technology Corp. 75300,1232 (X)


>>Do you have a password assigned to your Zaurus?

No I didn't Scott. I did get it installed using the "Mac" method.

>>Ann, be sure to patch your Z-Finance if it is 1.0 and not 1.01.
>>The patch is in our forum library (GO RUPP) and on our web
>>site.

It is the 1.01 version . . . Thanks for your help!

Just a little warning. Now that school will be starting and I have Z-Finance.
. . . I will be wanting to import Calendar Creator Plus  and MSMoney 95 files
into the Zaurus . . . but not today :-)

Ann Harrell
annh@juno.com
annharel@aol.com
76161.55@compuserve.com
5:05 PM, 8/16/96








#: 58547 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    16-Aug-96  11:33:14
Sb: #58418-#Z-Finance Install Snafu
Fm: Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) 75300,2517
To: Ann Harrell 76161,55 (X)

Ann,

You could do like I and all the other Mac users do all the time. Simply ignore
the install software, import the .ZPM file to the PCfiles area, and install
from there. it works like a charm every time.

   Bo

(via SHARP Zaurus ZR-5800FX)

#: 58593 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    16-Aug-96  15:33:19
Sb: #58547-Z-Finance Install Snafu
Fm: Ann Harrell 76161,55
To: Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) 75300,2517 (X)

>>You could do like I and all the other Mac users do all the
>>time. Simply ignore the install software, import the .ZPM file
>>to the PCfiles area, and install from there. it works like a
>>charm every time.

Thanks BO . . it did work!! (your way)

Ann

#: 58569 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    16-Aug-96  12:43:25
Sb: #58418-#Z-Finance Install Snafu
Fm: George Czajkowski 74131,2121
To: Ann Harrell 76161,55 (X)

>>The activity bar came up, but nothing happened.My Z is less than 50% full
and I was trying to install to main memory, but I do have a blank SRAM ($49)
card. <<

I noticed that it sometimes takes a few minutes before you can see any
progress on the install box of the install program.  But it always worked for
me...

Cheers,

George

#: 58594 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    16-Aug-96  15:33:21
Sb: #58569-#Z-Finance Install Snafu
Fm: Ann Harrell 76161,55
To: George Czajkowski 74131,2121 (X)

>>I noticed that it sometimes takes a few minutes before you can
>>see any progress on the install box of the install program.
>>But it always worked for me...

<sigh> I had to do it Bo's way. I waited 5 minutes and had no movement on the
bar.
Maybe it's a Win95 thing. Thanks for your help!!

Ann Harrell
annh@juno.com
annharel@aol.com
76161.55@compuserve.com
5:07 PM, 8/16/96



#: 58673 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    17-Aug-96  07:56:22
Sb: #58594-Z-Finance Install Snafu
Fm: George Czajkowski 74131,2121
To: Ann Harrell 76161,55 (X)

>>Maybe it's a Win95 thing. Thanks for your help!!<<

That may be so.  I always restart my computer in DOS (Command Prompt) mode
before running these install programs.

Cheers,

George


#: 197442 S10/Rupp Corporation
    21-Aug-96  11:27:57
Sb: #197385-Quicken PCMCIA fr Z5000
Fm: Rupp Corporation 75300,1232
To: MARK BENVENISTE 73622,2477

>>need to get a Quicken PCMCIA card for Z 5000 thats able to
>>transfer data to main Mac. How much? How to get? Also what kind
>>of small printer will work with the Zaurus and what kind of
>>cable is needed/ Much thanks. MB

There is not Quicken for the Zaurus but we released Z-Finance which will allow
you to export to QIF format to the PC Files area on the Zaurus to download to
your computer and import into Quicken or MS Money. The software is 49.99 but
it comes on a PC disk. You will need a PC to install the application. You can
use the Sharp CE-IR1 (109.99) to print via IR to printers.

Regards,
Scott Glasgow
sglasgow@rupp.com
Rupp Technology Corporation
Sales: 800-844-7775 or 602-941-4789
Support: 602-941-5602 or support@rupp.com
Fax: 602-941-5505
http://www.rupp.com/


#: 60793 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    01-Sep-96  08:08:06
Sb: #SRAM Install Programs
Fm: Ann Harrell 76161,55
To: All


I have installed the Z-Finance program and the PILI100.zpm and game bin on my
Z-2. Now Morris is about 80% full. For no very good reason (I just don't like
him over half full) I would like to install these programs to my SRAM card
instead.

I installed Z-Finance first (to the card from PC Files) and then PILI and the
game.bin. The game runs fine, but where is my data for Z-Finance? I haven't
deleted Z-Finance from main memory yet, and the data is there. I also still
have all the .zpm files in my PC Files area, but would like to delete these
also.

Any suggestions how to get my data for Z-Finance onto the SRAM card short of
re-typing??

Ann via Sharp Zaurus 5800 K-PDA
 9:23am  9/ 1/1996

#: 60803 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    01-Sep-96  11:09:48
Sb: #60793-SRAM Install Programs
Fm: Jon Freivald 104650,2666
To: Ann Harrell 76161,55 (X)

---
Now Morris is about 80% full.
---
Morris!?  Hmmm...  I call my 5800 FRED, but there's a reason behind the
acronym.  Why Morris?

Jon
>>Via Sharp Zaurus ZR-5800FX<<

#: 61049 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    03-Sep-96  10:54:11
Sb: #60931-SRAM Install Programs
Fm: Rupp Technology Corp. 75300,1232
To: Ann Harrell 76161,55

>>But where is my Budget information? How do I get that in
>>there?

You can't. But if I may, let me make a suggestion. Since a RAM card backup
basically copies everything from Main Ram, try doing a backup to the SRAM
card, then you can delete all the normal app data (COntacts etc) and your
Z-Finance data should be intact on the SRAM card. I haven't tried it myself,
but it should work. Kind of a pain, but it is a work around. Would have been
nice to have a PC-Link to go with it.

Regards,
Scott Glasgow
sglasgow@rupp.com
Rupp Technology Corporation
Sales: 800-844-7775 or 602-941-4789
Support: 602-941-5602 or support@rupp.com
Fax: 602-941-5505
http://www.rupp.com/


#: 61153 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    03-Sep-96  21:56:56
Sb: #61128-SRAM Install Programs
Fm: Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) 75300,2517
To: Ann Harrell 76161,55 (X)

Ann,

I was thinking a little about what Scott from RUPP did suggest, simply doing a
BACKUP to your SRAM card, would probably transfer all of the data, then you
will just need to install Z-finance to the SRAM card.  Or maybe the Z-finance
would have to be installed first, the backup should still pop the data in the
same position.

   Bo

(via SHARP Zaurus ZR-5800FX)

#: 61231 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    04-Sep-96  14:03:14
Sb: #61153-SRAM Install Programs
Fm: Ann Harrell 76161,55
To: Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) 75300,2517

>simply doing a BACKUP to your SRAM card, would probably transfer all of the
data, then you will just need to install Z-finance to the SRAM card.<

I see . . but I have my SRAM set for programs only. I would first have to
divide it and format for programs and backup. Then I could backup just the
Z-Finance to it. Install Z-Finance to the same card and then restore my data
to that copy? But how do I back up just the Z-Finance data. Am I lost again?

Ann via Sharp Zaurus 5800 K-PDA
10:45am  9/ 4/1996

#: 62344 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    12-Sep-96  06:39:43
Sb: #62297-#ZCalc & ZGames Stable?
Fm: George Czajkowski 74131,2121
To: Xavier L. IrAal 105137,262 (X)

>>I'd recommend formatting that $50 Flash card we all bought from Zaurus,
getting rid of that USELESS software on there and replacing it with these MUCH
more functional ones.<<

Just remember that Z-Finance cannot be installed on Flash card - only SRAM or
main memory.

Cheers,

George
*SHARP Zaurus ZR-5800 user*

#: 197869 S10/Rupp Corporation
    14-Sep-96  03:12:50
Sb: #196543-Transfer Error, RuppLynx
Fm: Andrew Scheurer 72133,2613
To: Rupp Corporation 75300,1232

>>Getting the following error messages when I try to transfer
>>data from laptop to Zaurus 5800 using RuppLynx; 1) Aborting.
>>Fail to receive. Syn. 2) Unknown error. NGXPROT 46 3) Comms
>>Error. Unable to transfer file. TEL3.BOX Looks like laptop and
>>Zaurus initiating communications because arrow on PC Link screen
>>starts to blink.

This is one of your customers complaining about this in July. I am trying to
send a qif file for use with Quicken and Z Finance and the thing does exactly
this. I read the win95.wri and implemented its suggestions to the T and the
thing still doesn't work. More puzzling I can transfer the Zaurus type data
like contacts 2 and so on but not a plain old PC file. This leads me to
believe the problem isn't with communications but your PC file support is
severely lacking.

As for your response to this guy to see if his file has any data in it - this
is not very good error handling. The problem is with some obscure issue with
PC file export only. Zrlink - the free software that comes with the cable from
sharp works fine with the same file but this RuppLynx I spent close to 80
bucks on doesn't work. As for append or overwrite - I've tried both, it
doesn't send 1 byte over. The Comm Fifo thing is disabled and it still doesn't
work.
This problem doesn't appear related to Win95 - otherwise sending over all of
contact 2 wouldn't work and it does.
What is going on here. If  I read and implemented your Win95.wri file and that
doesn't work then where do I go from here?
I write comm software for a living and this isn't very good.

Please let me know what to do, otherwise I'll have to send it back and use the
free software( no matter how limited it is ) to send files back and forth to
work with your Z Finance.
I have a 5800, my brother has a 5000 and the version is 3.1 which I just got a
week ago.
Neither one work. This new 3.1 apparently senses the type of unit so the
problem isn't with setup. You must have other customers with this problem -
this guy hit it on the tee.

Andy Scheurer

#: 65532 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    04-Oct-96  15:25:35
Sb: #65496-Autopilot Prob.
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) 75300,2517

<< I would hate to have to move my Z-finance data around. ;-)> >

Bo,

I wish that the data for Z-Finance was clearly separated from the program for
just that situation. I do not believe there is any way of keeping all the
information if, for example, you export it to a QIF file since not all of it
gets exported.

I have already fed this back to Limelight software.

 regards, and good luck,
Kable

#: 65597 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    05-Oct-96  01:45:26
Sb: #65532-Autopilot Prob.
Fm: Richard Rodriguez 76641,570
To: Kable Singh 100434,2542 (X)

Kable

<<I wish that the data for Z-Finance was clearly separated from the program
for just that situation. I do not believe there is any way of keeping all the
information if, for example, you export it to a QIF file since not all of it
gets exported.>>

PMFJI:  After playing around, was able to ascertain that with just one entry
all categories will transfer in a qif.file to be held in case one looses all.

Hope this helps.

Rich Rodriguez
Lima OH

#: 65665 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    06-Oct-96  00:01:40
Sb: #65597-Autopilot Prob.
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: Richard Rodriguez 76641,570 (X)

Rich,

Thanks for your contribution.

I was thinking of things like Budgets, and Regular Transactions.

Is there  a way to export these to re-import later? I have suggested that
there should be an Export-ALL/Import-ALL as a single process (not just an
Account at a time).

This should include All-Accounts, (as well as all the things such as
Budgets/Regular Transactions) for just this situation and also to make moving
data between Z-Finance and Quicken both easier and more comprehensive to start
with.

regards,
Kable

#: 68270 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    23-Oct-96  05:14:37
Sb: #68224-Sidekick to Zaurus
Fm: Jon Freivald 104650,2666
To: Ann Harrell 76161,55 (X)

<<I'm finding it harder and harder to maintain my MS Money program. I use the
Z-Finance and just love it. Anyone else doing this???>>

Ann,

I gave up Quicken on the PC within days of getting Z-Finance.  I had always
stuck with Quicken over MS Money due to the leaner, more convenient interface
with Quicken.  It was still a pain.  Z-finance, on the other hand, is both a
pleasure, and *always* up to date.. :)

Jon
>>Via Sharp Zaurus ZR-5800FX<<

#: 68349 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    23-Oct-96  15:08:17
Sb: #68224-Sidekick to Zaurus
Fm: George Czajkowski 74131,2121
To: Ann Harrell 76161,55

>>I'm finding it harder and harder to maintain my MS Money program. I use the
Z-Finance and just love it. Anyone else doing this???<<

I still use Intuit's Quicken in addition to Z-Finance.  One reason is that I
have significantly more accounts and info in Quicken than Z-Finance could
accommodate.  I also have the records going something like 2 years back in
Quicken and this would exceed memory capacity of my Z, no doubt (quicken
serves here as a sort of "archive").  Another reason is security.  I already
had to reinstall Z-Finance on my SRAM card a few times loosing all the records
in the process (nothing unusual when you test beta programs, sometimes they
misbehave <g>).  On the other hand, it is easy and quick to backup Quicken
data to a diskette.

So I guess I will keep using both forever <g>!

Cheers,

George
*SHARP Zaurus ZR-5800FX user*

#: 198603 S10/Rupp Corporation
    03-Nov-96  08:08:07
Sb: Z-Zinance and QIF Files
Fm: Michael A. Greer 75620,2677
To: Rupp Corporation 75300,1232

1) I have "Credit Card" payment types in my transactions. When I write out I
OIF file from Z-Finance, it writes these transactions as "CASH". Upon import
into Quicken, these transactions are throwing me off. "ATM" transaction are
written as "ATM" payment types. I haven't tested the others. Is this intended
or is this an oversight?

2) Is it possible to transfer funds between accounts? If not, is a new version
of ZF being developed that will include specified as well as automatic
transfers between accounts?

P.S. Z-Finance is a GREAT package. 


#: 70010 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    06-Nov-96  21:14:44
Sb: #69916-Z-Finance patch HELP
Fm: George Czajkowski 74131,2121
To: Marcus Green 100445,2577

>>When I want to open, it asks for my password. When I hit cancel and then
come back again to Z-Finance it will open without requiring a password.<<

PMFJI, but this is a know issue.  I am sure RUPP is working on solution to it.
What interests me is if you had the same problem with the original ver. 1.0?
Are you sure the problem was introduced by the patch?

>>One day after I installed the patch, my main unit crashed (the document
section was blocked). I am not suggesting that Z-Finance is the cause. I'm
saying this only in case you have heard of this problem before in relation to
Z-Finance.<<

I have been using my Z-Finance (including patched version) from 2 MB GRiD SRAM
card from the beginning and it never gave me any problems.

>>BTW, I *love* this program.<<

Me too. This is my No. 1 (i.e. the most important and most frequently used
Zaurus add-on application).

Cheers,

George
( via SHARP Zaurus ZR-5800FX)

#: 71086 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    14-Nov-96  23:24:47
Sb: #71028-#Z-Finance
Fm: Douglas Armand 100046,2475
To: Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) 75300,2517 (X)

Hi Bob,

Thanks for the welcome :-)
If I may trouble you for some more info?

Does it support splits and categories?
Does it support VAT (in the UK this is a form of sales tax)
Finally do you know where I can get a copy in the UK?
Dougy

#: 71098 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    14-Nov-96  23:33:04
Sb: #71086-Z-Finance
Fm: Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) 75300,2517
To: Douglas Armand 100046,2475 (X)

Hello Armand

I know that the Z-finance do support categories, but you can't do a split
(sorry) I don't know about tax.

Charles Newgas will be able to give you a reference for where to get the
software in the US.  You can also get more info about the Z-finance at
http://www.rupp.com

   Bo

#: 69916 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    06-Nov-96  04:47:09
Sb: Z-Finance patch HELP
Fm: Marcus Green 100445,2577
To: Rupp Technology Co 75300,1232

Scott,

I am worried about the Z-Finance patch I downloaded from your web-site (or
AOL). I followed the instructions step by step. The problem of the Z again
messing up my budget categories (I did follow instructions of making $0.01
entries and importing that file first) no longer matters. I've given up on
using budgets now.

What worries me more, though, is that ever since I installed the
patch/upgrade, Z-Finance will behave the following way:

When I want to open, it asks for my password. When I hit cancel and then come
back again to Z-Finance it will open without requiring a password. This, of
course, does not keep my data safe. (My Z is around other people often for
demo reasons)
Some more info: I use Z-Finance on my 2MB grid SRAM card, not the main unit.
One day after I installed the patch, my main unit crashed (the document
section was blocked). I am not suggesting that Z-Finance is the cause. I'm
saying this only in case you have heard of this problem before in relation to
Z-Finance.

As the patch suggested to upgrade the original floppy disk with the ZPM file
on it, I am stuck with this security problem. Any suggestions? Have you heard
of this before? If not, maybe I should try installing Z-Finance into the main
unit. But before the patch, it worked ok with the SRAM card.
Finally: What does this patch do anyway? It said all users should install it.
From all I see, my Z-Fin works less well now.

Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you,
Marcus
*via Sharp Zaurus 5800 & PCMCIA*

BTW, I *love* this program.

#: 71319 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    17-Nov-96  01:29:45
Sb: #71211-Z-Finance
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: Douglas Armand 100046,2475

Douglas,

Z-Finance is a UK produced product and available from Limelight Software
Tel 01724-711669 and speak to Kevin or Paul.

regards,
Kable (Winchester UK)

#: 71321 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    17-Nov-96  02:21:39
Sb: #71211-Z-Finance
Fm: Charles Newgas 101612,3123
To: Douglas Armand 100046,2475

Douglas,

Z-Finance is a program distributed by RUPP Technology.  As yet there is no
official distributer in the UK. It was written by a UK company. I am currently
using the latest version available.   It is Ver 1.01 dated 1996.   It is a
good program for keeping track of personal accounts (Up to 5).  I spoke to
Rupp last Wednesday & there will be a new version but not for quite a while ..
They inferred that it will be not before the middle of 1997.
I spoke to the UK Co & they are still working on it.

let me know if I can help more,

Regards,

Charles. (Hertfordshire, England)

#: 73468 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    28-Nov-96  22:33:45
Sb: #73419-#Z-FINANCE
Fm: FrstTenor 105413,2523
To: Douglas Armand 100046,2475 (X)

:I've just received my copy of Z-Finance and on first :looks its pretty good.

:
:Does anyone know how you transfer funds from :one account to another?
:
:Dougy


You can't automatically... it has to be done manually.  Debit the money from the
account, then credit the money in the account you need it in.

          Aaron E. Chandler

#: 198949 S10/Rupp Corporation
    02-Dec-96  16:39:42
Sb: #Z-Finance and Quicken
Fm: Ken Hausman 104764,2643
To:  75300,1232 (X)

I am trying to download my Quicken Info into my Zaurus using Z-Finance.  The
problem is I don't know  which Quicken file to download.   Do I need to
download all the files?  Just one in particular?  (I tried Qdata.qdt and that
didn't work)

Thanks
Phillip Ho

#: 198954 S10/Rupp Corporation
    03-Dec-96  07:41:49
Sb: #198949-Z-Finance and Quicken
Fm: Rebecca Stapleton 70007,4161
To: Ken Hausman 104764,2643 (X)

Message text written by Ken Hausman
>I am trying to download my Quicken Info into my Zaurus using Z-Finance.  The
problem is I don't know  which Quicken file to download.   Do I need to
download all the files?  Just one in particular?  (I tried Qdata.qdt and that
didn't work)  <

The file execution you need to look for to transfer files is .QIF.

Becky
Rupp Technology

#: 198991 S10/Rupp Corporation
    05-Dec-96  09:52:37
Sb: #198949-Z-Finance and Quicken
Fm: Rupp Corporation 75300,1232
To: Ken Hausman 104764,2643

Message text written by Ken Hausman
>I am trying to download my Quicken Info into my Zaurus using Z-Finance.  The
problem is I don't know  which Quicken file to download.   Do I need to
download all the files?  Just one in particular?  (I tried Qdata.qdt and that
didn't work)   <

You need to Export from Quicken to QIF format which is Quickens Interchange
Format.

Regards,
Scott
sglasgow@rupp.com

#: 75308 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    08-Dec-96  11:21:11
Sb: #74392-Z-FINANCE
Fm: Bob Lang 105044,1402
To: Todd Carson 75507,2620

Todd -

I've been using Z Finance for about 2 months now and I like it for financial
record keeping.  I use it to track my checking, savings, and three major
credit card expenditures.  I can import and export the data to my Quicken
Financial software.  It makes no difference which banks or credit cards you do
business with.  Z-Finance just tracks expenses and is in no way connected with
on-line banking services.  Hope this helps answer your questions.

#: 75474 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    09-Dec-96  07:50:52
Sb: #75445-Zaurus ??s & comments
Fm: Jim Peelgren 104032,445
To: Bill Choi 105417,3203

>> How is RUPP's financial management software as compared to quicken?
>> I was also thinking about transferring my financial information to my
Zaurus.

I also use Z-Finance from Rupp.  The only limitation that I have found is that
budgets
set up in Z-Fin cannot have line items which occur on any frequency other than
monthly.  So, you can't have a utility bill which is sent every other month.
Other than
that, I think it's great!

Jim Peelgren
104032.445@compuserve.com

#: 75513 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    09-Dec-96  11:11:46
Sb: #75474-Zaurus ??s & comments
Fm: Michael A. Greer 75620,2677
To: Jim Peelgren 104032,445

>>I also use Z-Finance from Rupp.  The only limitation that I have found is
that budgets
set up in Z-Fin cannot have line items which occur on any frequency other than
monthly.  So, you can't have a utility bill which is sent every other month.
Other than
that, I think it's great!<<

This is not true Jim. The frequency can be a month, week or day. In addition,
one can set the period. For example, if you want a payment every other month,
set the "Period type" to "MONTH", set the "Period no." to 2 (if it were set to
1, it transaction would be every month. If it were set to 3, the transaction
would be every quarter). By doing this, you are telling Z-finance to make this
transaction every other month.

What you can't currently do, is set a transaction to be made more than once
WITHIN a period type. For instance, if I wanted to make a payment on something
twice a month (on the 15th, and the 30th), I can't set this up as 1
transaction. I need to make 2 separate transactions. One for the 15th, and one
for the 30th. If I tried to set this up as an every other week transaction, I
would shortly be out of sync.

#: 199052 S10/Rupp Corporation
    09-Dec-96  11:50:36
Sb: Z-Finance Enhancements
Fm: Michael A. Greer 75620,2677
To: Rupp Corporation 75300,1232

Hi Scott,

I have 3 enhancement to ZZ-Finance that currently come to mind.

1) A KEYBOARD keystroke  (or keystroke combination) save. I would want the
whole account set as the default. But some may want to have this selectable.
Maybe even with a memory, so that only the unsaved entries get written to the
QIF file.

2) I get paid twice a month (15th and end of month, 30th or 31). But I can't
enter a twice a month transaction. I can do an every other week transaction.
But that's not twice a month. If Z-Finance would accept 0.5 in it's "Period
no." slot for transaction entries, then that represent twice a month.

3) I'd like to be able to view the sum of a category in tabular form, with
amounts and dates for each transaction in the specified category, over a user
specified date range. It would be nice if various months could be simply
selected as the date range as an option. 

#: 76882 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    17-Dec-96  08:23:08
Sb: #76828-Sending a message to all
Fm: Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) 75300,2517
To: Braukmann 106026,3225

Hello Herbert,

You just enter ALL as the name. and nothing in the userid box, then press TO
and enter.

Z-finance will not run on a FLASH card.

    Bo

(via SHARP ZR-5800FX+AutoPilot)

#: 199163 S10/Rupp Corporation
    19-Dec-96  11:11:06
Sb: #199151-Z-Finance Enhancements
Fm: Rupp Corporation 75300,1232
To: Robert R. Napitupulu 73052,677 (X)

Message text written by Robert R. Napitupulu
>My question is, should I patch my ZF? or let me make it simple, how do I know
if my ZFinance need a patch? <

Check the version of your Z-Finance copy. If it says 1.0, you need the patch.
If it says 1.01, you don't.

Regards,
Scott