#: 63293 S9/Sharp Zaurus 19-Sep-96 22:22:59 Sb: #63196-#Access to other email Fm: Henry Phan 74352,2451 To: Jon Freivald 104650,2666 (X) Dear Jon: Sorry to interrupt... I have both CompuServe and Juno e-mail. I like Compuserve, but it costs $, whereas, Juno e-mail is free. How do I go about sending and receiving e-mail on Juno. BTW, what is a shell account? Regards, Henry #: 63294 S9/Sharp Zaurus 19-Sep-96 22:34:42 Sb: #63293-#Access to other email Fm: Robert Burke 74517,321 To: Henry Phan 74352,2451 Henry, PMFJI, but how do you get on Juno? I am very interested to see if they support shell accounts. (Text based browsing.) Thanks, - Rob - #: 63322 S9/Sharp Zaurus 20-Sep-96 06:05:15 Sb: #63294-Access to other email Fm: Ann Harrell 76161,55 To: Robert Burke 74517,321 >> PMFJI, but how do you get on Juno? I am very interested to >>see if they support shell accounts. (Text based browsing.) Robert...when I got on Juno I asked about being able to use it with my Zaurus and they at that time said no way. If you want to give it a try, email me your address and I'll send you a disk. Or I suppose it is downloadable from somewhere. Here is the email address for Juno: charlesa@juno.com Charles Ardai is the presidents name. I'm sure it has a web page also. Ann Harrell 76161.55@compuserve.com annharell@aol.com annh@juno.com 7:59 AM, 9/20/96 #: 63323 S9/Sharp Zaurus 20-Sep-96 06:08:13 Sb: #63294-Access to other email Fm: Jon Freivald 104650,2666 To: Robert Burke 74517,321 <> Juno *ONLY* supports e-mail - period. Jon >>Via Sharp Zaurus ZR-5800FX<< #: 63324 S9/Sharp Zaurus 20-Sep-96 06:08:34 Sb: #63293-Access to other email Fm: Jon Freivald 104650,2666 To: Henry Phan 74352,2451 <> Don't worry about it -- this is part of what keeps these conversations interesting -- everybody jumping in and adding twists and turns... :) <> Unfortunately, you will never be able to access Juno from your Z. Their basic tenant is that they provide you with the free e-mail service, and they subsidize the service with the advertising that is constantly being presented to you via their software interface. (Remember the demographic survey you filled out when you signed up? Being able to properly target the ads makes the services they are selling more valuable...) If you read that dissertation of a license agreement when you signed up, you might remember that they specifically prohibit accessing Juno with any means other than the specific software they provide. (How can they force you to see the ads if they don't control the interface?) Now, you can send mail -to- and receive mail -from- a Juno account via CI$ on your Z. Your Internet address is 104650.2666@compuserve.com (note that the comma changes to a period). To address to me on Juno, you would use the address internet:jafreivald@juno.com. We would not be able to send file attachments back and forth (a CI$ limitation!), but could e-mail just fine... OK, a shell account... Do you have a PC? (Well, you have Juno, so obviously you do..! Unless they finally got the Mac version of their software done...) When you are sitting at that infamous C:\> prompt, you are in your "shell". A shell account from an ISP is basically nothing more than a login on their machine that you dial into. You can use just about any comm software (including the Z's terminal mode) to dial in. Everything runs in character mode, and on the host system (the machine you actually called and logged into). The UNIX shell prompt (usually $ or %, depending on which shell you are using) is roughly analogous to the DOS C>... From there, you can run any text mode program that the system administrator has made available. Some of the more common ones are pine or elm for mail and lynx for web browsing. Advantages of a shell account? SPEED! You are usually working on some type of high speed workstation with a high bandwidth connection to the Internet -- the only thing going back and forth across your (relatively) slow modem are your keystrokes and screen paints. Shell accounts are typically cheaper than a SLIP or PPP account (the average of the services around here that I'm familiar with is $30/mo for SLIP/PPP and $15/mo for shell). Disadvantages of a shell account? Everything is command-line driven. If you aren't familiar with UNIX, you will have a learning curve to do much of anything. Anything you retrieve from the net is now on that host system - there are additional steps you must take to get the information (or files, or whatever)to your own machine - it's simple, but it's an additional step... -Some- ISPs offer a menu system for beginners to use. Another big disadvantage is that there are many ISPs that don't even offer shell accounts -- notable examples are Netcom and EarthNet (a couple of the bigger ones with local access numbers nationwide...). Another disadvantage is that, being text mode only, you won't get any graphics while out surfing the web. I hope this answers your questions. If you have more, feel free to fire away... Jon >>Via Sharp Zaurus ZR-5800FX<< #: 73135 S9/Sharp Zaurus 27-Nov-96 03:21:14 Sb: #72025-Juno & Zem@il Fm: Jon Freivald 104650,2666 To: Robert Burke 74517,321 >Okay, I realize your not supposed to, but can >Zem@il access a juno account? Or is juno even a >PPP connection? No. The Juno front-end is a proprietary protocol. You can reach/see the Juno systems via the Internet, but they don't run POP... Jon >>Via Sharp Zaurus ZR-5800FX<< #: 73856 S9/Sharp Zaurus 01-Dec-96 07:29:05 Sb: #73814-e-mail Fm: Ann Harrell 76161,55 To: Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) 75300,2517 Bo: >>I believe that JUNO mail is a proprietary interface, and that you >>might have problems using them. I tried GTE.. they said no go. Same with AT&T Worldnet. Ann@Indiana Harrell 76161.55@compuserve.com annharell@aol.com 10:17 AM, 12/1/96