(3-15,Kai Schmidt) hi (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Hello Kai (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Good PM all (3-14,Glen D Peterson) guten nachmittag, herr kai (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Hello Jim /use(3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Guten Abend Glen User User ID Nod Area Name ---- ------------- --- -------- ------------------- 3 75300,2517 CZA Rm 3 Bo Lorentzen (Sysop 4 72002,2444 CZJ Rm 3 Scott Glasgow 6 110072,2656 DDC Rm 3 Tibor T. Kun 7 105446,3404 MSE Rm 3 CHARLES A. KULAKA 8 113234,2571 GJD Rm 3 W. Klar 9 102700,427 KRT Rm 3 Greg Van Sandt 11 100434,2542 ULY Rm 3 Kable Singh 12 74777,2604 JGA Rm 3 Jim Christian (Syso 14 105275,340 ZAX Rm 3 Glen D Peterson 15 106430,1223 ZBC Rm 3 Kai Schmidt 16 106016,3614 DJB Rm 3 Arent Kits van Heij (3-8,W. Klar) Good evening from Gottingen, Mr. Schmidt! (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Hello Bo..sorry stepped away. I am doing fine. Have to start my project all (3-4,Scott Glasgow) over, but other than that, good. (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) GUTEN ABEND HERR klar (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Hello Kai. (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Hello Tibor, (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) You made it. Hi bBo! (3-8,W. Klar) Hi Mr. Heij! Hard to miss when you're se(3-13,Stefan Sjoberg) Hi Bo! nding out emails to us (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Hello Stefan, good to see Sweden being present (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Winand haben Sie meinem Nachricht noch gelesen (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Kits please use English in the chat room (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) God kvaeel stefan hur aer vaedret daer uppe ? (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) You are welcome to use the prevate talk feature if you like. (3-8,W. Klar) Sorry, war leider unterwegs und bin erst seit heute wieder angeklemmt... hab's (3-8,W. Klar) aber gesehen und werde morgen fruh wieder die ubliche e-mail session machen. (3-13,Stefan Sjoberg) Vaedret aer fint, tack saa mycket (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) WYes Bo ,SHALL i DO IT IN danish for you ? (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Does anyone have any questions? (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) LOL.... Kits I understand the German, but today there are other members here... (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Let (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) OK guys (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Lets get strated. Welcome to Mr. Klar (3-8,W. Klar) Thanks! Hello to all the interested people here. (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) This is a chat, but lest please be nice to Winand so that he will come back. (3-14,Glen D Peterson) Thanks, Mr Klar - for visiting. (3-9,Greg Van Sandt) Thank You, Sir (3-14,Glen D Peterson) Please share with us your progress on the browser. Has a new SDK helped? (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Well Jim Ron chimed in on athread in Win CE ABOUT cOMPUsERVE MOVING TOWARDS wEB-BASED ACCESS Well Winand , you can grill Scott ,he's the (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) How many of you would buy a Z-Browser & for how much? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Hi everybody, just came in and was picked by Winand (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Winand... Still here? (3-14,Glen D Peterson) Me. $100 (3-8,W. Klar) yes... (3-9,Greg Van Sandt) I would buy a Z-browser and would be willing to pay $50-$100 US dollars. (3-13,Stefan Sjoberg) I would, and pay 50$ or more (3-11,Kable Singh) Jim, I am interested and be willing to pay $100ish. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) I would pay approx 149.,-- (3-15,Kai Schmidt) German marks (3-5,Mark Wolk) iS IT BETTER THAN lYNX? (3-8,W. Klar) interesting statements for us thinking and developing and - coursing.... (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) I would pay abut $100+ (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Hundred bucks okay , but what about the memory requirements? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Mark, of course (3-14,Glen D Peterson) Memory. Speed, Graphics types supported. ? (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Winand.. Could you tell us a littel about the browser? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Hoi Kits hoe is het ?? (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Good questions, Glen, what min feature would it have to have? (3-14,Glen D Peterson) What are the equivalent (baseline) performances established by the WinCE machines? (3-8,W. Klar) before we all think and write about that stuff - we first will have to solve (3-8,W. Klar) the problems that caused the delay we have to fight with at the moment. but for (3-8,W. Klar) all of you to know and against a lot of rumors: the project hasn't died it is (3-8,W. Klar) just delayed (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Apropos memory it is possible now to have up to 16 MOct on a pccard modem (3-14,Glen D Peterson) I would say Gif support, probably JPEG too. Turn graphics off if desired, etc. Prpbably can't surf faster than (3-14,Glen D Peterson) 14.4 since that is all the Z can do... (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Think abou that ! (3-8,W. Klar) we are planning not to need so much memory that the Zaurus will not work with a (3-8,W. Klar) usual (!) pc-card modem. (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Delayed until when? (3-8,W. Klar) means not more than aprox. 650 kB (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Winand.. Is that including the MPL runtime? (3-14,Glen D Peterson) You can't have it on a PC card, since you need the slot for a (fast) modem card. |Can it and Pili fit on a Z (3-14,Glen D Peterson) at the same time? (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Less than CCZ (1.5 mokt (3-8,W. Klar) We will get the new and i think better sdk in august, then we will have to make (3-8,W. Klar) only a few more changes in the system (3-14,Glen D Peterson) What is the conversion from mega octals to bits? (3-8,W. Klar) the memory needed of course will have to include the runtime. (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) 650K probably excludes 5000, 5800 & 3000 users due to it having to have a 14.4 (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) modem on the 5XXX series, right? (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Winand... Will the software work with the CE-FM4? (3-8,W. Klar) it will have to ;-) (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) Hi, Folks - sorry, I'm late... (3-14,Glen D Peterson) CAN you surf at 2400 baud? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Haha, Winand cause you have this modem :-) (3-8,W. Klar) for the software it doesn't matter if it has to access internal pc-card or (3-8,W. Klar) serial. (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Moct=MByDubious because some ISP,s do not allow slower speeds than 9.600bps (3-8,W. Klar) you can surf, even if it's slow. the gereral decision that will have to be made (3-8,W. Klar) is if you will get pictures or not and if yes, how. (3-14,Glen D Peterson) less than 9600 writes off the sidecar modem as a choice, right? (3-11,Kable Singh) Winand, Can the software be run from an SRAM card rather than (3-11,Kable Singh) main RAM memory? (3-8,W. Klar) think of the compuserve access by zaurus. you can also do that with 2.4 kbps (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) It probably is a product for the next Z, not the current one and probably will (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) have a date that is consistant with it, right? (3-8,W. Klar) of course you will be able to run it from sram (3-14,Glen D Peterson) How about a package deal: stuff the Z3500 modem into a sidecar for the Z5800, and sell it with a copy of the (3-14,Glen D Peterson) web browser! (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) 22.4kbps DTE rate not DCE rate (3-11,Kable Singh) Thanks (3-1,robert breitenfeld) +++g)t1a)-l.%,WA&C*B\e\ (3-1,robert breitenfeld) !J;=3m<& (3-8,W. Klar) no it's planned for ZR-5000 series including ZR-3000 series. but nontheless we (3-8,W. Klar) will be able to switch to another system very fast, thanks to the sdk (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Winand.. What kind of pictures will the software support? (3-8,W. Klar) we do not know at the moment. sorry (3-8,W. Klar) if pictures, all the stuff known on the web (gif, jpg...) (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Do you think that gif's will be possible? (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Do you have an alpha & if so how slow is it with it with a 5800? (3-14,Glen D Peterson) For my enlightenment, what do the CE machines do now? --- Technical Difficulties --- (3-15,Kai Schmidt) 2 MB, the SMS cable, the sidecar, will talk to you tomorrow (3-8,W. Klar) kai, the question about the future i also can't answer by now... but i think (3-8,W. Klar) one is sure: ce is just not good enough at the moment to be built in in the (3-8,W. Klar) good ;-) pdas (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Well i expect at least thcapabilities of lynx 2.7.1 (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Winand, I am sure you'll have a fine product. Users come to expect PC quality (3-4,Scott Glasgow) in Z apps. (3-8,W. Klar) i think so, too, scott... ;-( (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Well said, Scott. (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Winand.. I think that a browser will also be important because it makes web acce (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) s simpler for user with less tecnical skills (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Scott, I think we all know, that this will not work !! It is a PDA (3-8,W. Klar) yes, that was exactly the intention. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Bo, sometimes when I read the internet newsgroups, I think Z owners are (3-15,Kai Schmidt) sofisticated (3-8,W. Klar) as arent already mentioned: lynx WILL be the base for our program... with a few (3-8,W. Klar) more features (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) You should have a pretty populare product, people visit the forum all the time a (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) sking for a web browser. (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Does the new Psion have one? (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Nice!! Lynx ON YOUR z (3-14,Glen D Peterson) Lynx works FINE, once you get used to it. (3-11,Kable Singh) Winandf (3-11,Kable Singh) Does that mean it will only work with ISP who support Lynx? (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) ...LYNX on my Z, that is very cool,. (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) PSION S5 does not have on e yet (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Glen, I am sure the Z browser will be easier to use since you're not limited to (3-4,Scott Glasgow) text based commands. I am sure Winand and his group will provided easy access (3-4,Scott Glasgow) menus to access functions. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Jim, Psion offers one (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) Winand. Different to LYNX, will you use the features of the touchable screen, (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) like "clicking" to links? (3-8,W. Klar) as i said, lynx will be the BASE, we will develop more! (3-11,Kable Singh) OK (3-15,Kai Schmidt) much more (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) And mailto support? (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) ..I would like to see touch screen, and session save to document. (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) USENET? (3-14,Glen D Peterson) A good test site for me would be the Zaurus forums on Rupp's site. Cookies is an issue there, as is (3-14,Glen D Peterson) frames. (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Mailto would be a great feature to support, very useful. (3-4,Scott Glasgow) mailto support? So now you want SMTP support...more code, larger size. (3-8,W. Klar) touch screen supoort, mailto, clicking will be of course features included (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Frames isn't an issue on the web forum...you can disable frames. (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Dutch White pages and rail tables too (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) I have mixed emotions on PDA web surfing. I've done it with Nethopper & a CE & (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) it is fun at the first but it's too slow, too small screen, run outa mem easy, (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) poor printing...I just don't know how successful it will be with Z users. (3-14,Glen D Peterson) Thanks, I'll see how disabled frames looks. (3-8,W. Klar) frames are nice - but do you really NEED them? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) winand touch screen is ok (3-4,Scott Glasgow) I agree Jim. It is nice to have the ability though if you _must_ check out a (3-4,Scott Glasgow) site though. But definitely not to be used as your main web browsing tool. (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Jim, I think it will be great think about all the people who have only a Zaurus. (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) www access is always cool. (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) On the sites mentioned you cannot disable frames (3-8,W. Klar) jim, of course speed is a problem, but better slow and access than nothing. or? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Bo, can you send me some of your Z gifs (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Winand, I think you must take the Lynx 2.7 approach to frames at the very least (3-4,Scott Glasgow) since some sites do use frames and you cannot browse them if your browser does (3-4,Scott Glasgow) not support them. (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Which ones are you talking about? (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) just take a 640-PC-Screen - frames look awful!!! (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) The bottom line is how many you'll sell at $50-$100. I bet <1000 after the (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) returns. (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Dutch wHITE pages (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Jim, that is also assuming you can reach 1000 users. (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Dutch rail timetables (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Right on, Scott! (3-10,GARY F. THOMAS) sen 3 any browser is nuch appreciated! (3-15,Kai Schmidt) scheiss ISDN, schon wieder ein anruf (3-18,CHOCHEE) MArk nicholeris : will the browser be commpatable with the z3000?? (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Scott, approx how many EM@IL have you sold directly? (3-4,Scott Glasgow) You must have a customer base...consider the percentage that will actually be (3-4,Scott Glasgow) interested in the product, and then spend the money to market the application (3-4,Scott Glasgow) to those customers. (3-8,W. Klar) i think so - if scott's people send us one soon... (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Right on #2, Scott. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) I am interested (3-14,Glen D Peterson) Chochee, he said intents are to fit ALL Z's (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Jim, over 1000 (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Scott.. Will RUPP be selling the browser in the US? (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Good job, are the returns high? (3-4,Scott Glasgow) send what Winand? (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) Bleib cool Kai, geht mir auch so... soll ich mal anrufen?? (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Bo: It has not been discussed with us. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Jetzt nicht mehr (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Bo: Not even sure who is publishing the software...if Brontosaurus Computes is (3-4,Scott Glasgow) publishing it theirselves or what. (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Rupp MUST sell it for it to be successful for they have the mailing and (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) prospect list! (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) kKai mir koennen Sie nicht anruefen ich habe noch analog (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) I hope RUPP will be involved, that should also help bring sales up because you a (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) re already estaplished here inthe US. (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Hey guys keep it in english for us dummies. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) arent, ralph: bei mir auch nicht, data und voice (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Personal msg for kai (3-8,W. Klar) of course, if rupp has any interest to sell the browser, they'll be the first (3-8,W. Klar) address in the us as our partner they are already (3-15,Kai Schmidt) arent what (3-4,Scott Glasgow) We always have an interest in carrying products that our customers want. (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) Do we know how many people actually use their Z for remote access? (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) It will require alot of support, would y9ou be willing to support us even (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) though Rupp sells it? (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) How about eleectronic delivery via Compuserve/internet? (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Winand... It would be possible to offer support here in the forum. (3-8,W. Klar) jim: yes, of course we will do e-mail and maybe fax support. (3-19,Glen D Peterson) I was thinking electronic delivery as well, to keep overheads down. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) shit, always somebody calling, i want to get rit of thie isdn stuff (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Hey Scott, it's looking better. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Winand, incoming fax !!!! Any idea (3-4,Scott Glasgow) What about customers who don't have email or fax and need support? (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Glen, You still want the manual, I think> (3-8,W. Klar) arent: as we already will do with linkit! we might also deliver by internet (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) And to make it accessible for folks without PC,S (3-8,W. Klar) scott: ok -they might call us... (3-19,Glen D Peterson) Manual can be sent as a help file to be run in Windows, etc. (Tibor Kun) Bo, Can't the manual just be a .txt file emailed? (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Expensive call for US/Canada customers. (3-11,Kable Singh) Electronic delivery would make it easier for UK and Europe to buy. (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) txt so you can unzip and read it on the UNIX BOX (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Tibor.. Sure can. (3-19,Glen D Peterson) The clipboard link help file sent via internet worked Great! (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) scott: go for callback! (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) I am sure that we will have a copy in the library anyway. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Winand: I am working in a software company, we sell sw for about 10 K a licence (3-15,Kai Schmidt) and charge 1 k maintanance.It still doesn't work out (3-8,W. Klar) scott: for the usual questions maybe you can help, as we do for some of your (3-8,W. Klar) programs at the moment too... ;-) (Tibor Kun) Bo: (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Well Bo its up to you (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Winand: We always support our customers, and we also support any users of (3-4,Scott Glasgow) software we publish. (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Bo where,s the last transcript (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) ..Arent, if Winand is OK with it we will have a copy in the library, and do our (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) very best to help his customers (3-4,Scott Glasgow) If we sell your software, we will support those who purchase from us. If we (3-4,Scott Glasgow) publish the software, we support any user of the software. (3-8,W. Klar) scott: thats ok - no one could want more. (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) ..Arent, it was mainly a "get-together chat" I will upload this one today. (3-8,W. Klar) bo: that would be a great help for us and our customers. (3-19,Glen D Peterson) You could also do the fee-based phone support for non-purchased software... (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Scott, not always, your tech support has some problems with non U.S customers (3-15,Kai Schmidt) like me (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Thanks Bo (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Winand... We are all for it. (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Glen: Yes, that is what our priority line is for. (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Kai: How? (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) winand, I've been late: ghave you been chatting about a point of time to (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) publish the browser? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Winand, are you talking about 0190 numbers ? (3-8,W. Klar) no, ralph. (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Winand what about USENET SUPPORT as in LYNX ? (3-5,Mark Wolk) How about a modem + SRAM together?/exit (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Kai: The biggest problem with international customers is time zone (3-4,Scott Glasgow) difference...but then we're supposed to be 24 hours. (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Winand.. Do you think that there is a time yet for a beta? final product? (3-19,Glen D Peterson) Modem plus memory - real good idea. (3-8,W. Klar) kai: no, we won't use any exensive numbers like 0900 or 0190. with the german (3-8,W. Klar) telekom, that would be more expensive than a usual line with someone working at (3-8,W. Klar) least 5 hours a day (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) nope There are afew modems with large flashes around I will send you info later after this chat (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) winand: you already checked that out ??? :-))) (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Winand.. How about selling a package of a 2meg SRAM card and a CE-FM4, with the (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) software installed on the card for people who have only a Zaurus computer? (3-8,W. Klar) bo: we do not have such a sophisticated schedule at the moment. as i said we (3-8,W. Klar) will get a new sdk in late summer (end of august, september), than a team of 2 (3-8,W. Klar) or 3 people will do the next steps.... (3-19,Glen D Peterson) Can't you use a memory buffer based through the ISP that you dialed? (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Winand.. Will you be doing any beta testing? (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Winard, my guess is Q1'98 is that about right? (3-8,W. Klar) bo: of course we will do beta-testing. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) yeah, bo, what about beta testing (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) winand keep you posted (3-8,W. Klar) jim: could be possible, but i got very careful regarding publishing any dates (3-8,W. Klar) ;-( (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) ... (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Guys, we have been here for a while.. any new/ Unanswered questions you like to (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) ask mr. Klar? (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Q1 ,98 may be too late (3-4,Scott Glasgow) What was the main problem you had with the Zaurus SDK? (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Jim and Arent... Quit being so negative. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) winand, what about link-it. the "killer" link software for the z (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Well no answer so far about USENET support as in LYNX (3-19,Glen D Peterson) With Z5800's going into close-out at stores, it looks to me that a new Z is imminent. Will the surf product (3-19,Glen D Peterson) be too late? (3-8,W. Klar) scott: as our programmers told us, the linking to the zaurus, the support in (3-8,W. Klar) germany also wasn't great... (3-8,W. Klar) glen: we will be able to adapt fast. (3-19,Glen D Peterson) Sehr gut, Herr Klar. (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) It's not negative it's business, Bo. The issue is how much money he'll invest (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) and the return. I don't see it now and want to give him inputs. (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Also what will make Link-it the 'killer' link? (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) wINAND does it run on US z,s ? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) oglen, the problem is that some companies like Brontosaurus in Germany and Rupp (3-15,Kai Schmidt) in the US do lots of things to push the Z, it is not Sharp :-( (3-8,W. Klar) kai: just got another pre-beta. looks great. the pc-part works very fine, the (3-8,W. Klar) zr-part has to be completed. new any time on the german zaurus web-page (3-8,W. Klar) arent: it will! (3-19,Glen D Peterson) What IS link-it? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Winand, don't talk ship !!! (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Hurrah !!! A news reader for Z that makes it Verry interesting !! (3-4,Scott Glasgow) news reader? (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) People are dying for it !! winand (3-8,W. Klar) scott: LinkIt! will be a complete linkin software including planning in 100 % (3-8,W. Klar) zaurus style on the pc, synchronizing and a lot of other features. last not (3-8,W. Klar) least it will serve the new european portable mobile communicator (PMC) (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Winand.. Could you possible write a release / information article about the cur (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) rent state of the browser, for the library, it could be posted also on the web a (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) nd would get more people interested int he browser.? (3-19,Glen D Peterson) Am I missing every other line in this forum or something? (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) has any of you European guys ever gotten mail by SHARP support? (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Winand: Interesting. (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Glen... I don't know. (3-8,W. Klar) bo: as soon as we will have anything, you will get it. we will also establish a (3-8,W. Klar) few english pages on our web site (3-8,W. Klar) ralph: yes, why? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Winand: what about printing from Link it (3-19,Glen D Peterson) Nope. (3-11,Kable Singh) Ralph, Only from Scott Campbell. (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Here,s scott campbells email campbels@sharpsec.com (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Scott Campbell, who's he? :) (3-8,W. Klar) kai:it will be able to (3-15,Kai Schmidt) I never got mail from Sharp, only from Scott G. from Rupp (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Winand: Juhu (3-8,W. Klar) ralph: for e-mail support in germany: sharp_hotline@yellow.de - or mail us at (3-8,W. Klar) service@brontosaurus.de (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) He,s the guy wich is the mover at sharp in the Westrern theatre of oprations (3-18,CHOCHEE) [C (3-18,CHOCHEE) [D (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Winand, sharp_hotline@yellow.de is a bunch of idiots. Sorry for that, but (3-15,Kai Schmidt) that's the truth (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) What about telnet so that i can chat over my dialback ? (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Winand: Why invest in developing a link application for the PC when there are (3-4,Scott Glasgow) already quite a few choices and a few of them continually improving? (3-8,W. Klar) kai: dont say that - they get a lot of information from bronto (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) winand: I know you and also yellow.de of course - but talking about (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) GS-drivers they told me to wait for mail, I'd be informed any day Sharp (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) developed something new for the Z. Now I live, thanks to God, from help of this (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) forum :-) (3-8,W. Klar) scott: the major problem is that these softwares are in english and can't be (3-8,W. Klar) translated :-( and the new pmc is coming.... (3-15,Kai Schmidt) I prefer calling you. Even when Frau Richter is at the phone, she tries to help (3-15,Kai Schmidt) you. Your service is best (3-4,Scott Glasgow) So this is going to be German or multi-language? (3-8,W. Klar) ralph: so try the zaurus project manager: mendrok@seeg.sharp-eu.com (3-8,W. Klar) scott: european (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Winand: HAhahahaha (3-11,Kable Singh) Winand, What is the PMC? (3-4,Scott Glasgow) OK (3-8,W. Klar) pmc is a new device like a synthesis between cellular gsm phone and zaurus. (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) PERSONAL MOBILE COMMUNICATOR A LA NOKIA 9000 but lighter (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Scott: this means polis, russian, german and french :-))+ (3-11,Kable Singh) Thanks (3-7,CHARLES A. KULAKA) Charles A. Kulala16:06 7/13/1997 (3-8,W. Klar) kai: and italian ;-) (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Something for the rich and famous (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) kai: experience with SHARP-support, ey? (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Winand, what other Z programs have you written? (3-11,Kable Singh) Kai, //and English?# (3-15,Kai Schmidt) BTW, whats about an international Z users group to put some presure (??) on (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Sharp (3-8,W. Klar) jim: we are just at the beginning... working on a few (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Great (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Kable: is this european ? (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) Kai: I'M WITH YOU!!! (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Ralp, where are you situated (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Winand.. Could you tell us a little about what other stuff you have cokking at t (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) he moment? $[C (3-8,W. Klar) kai: international user group would be great! (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Winand, how much did you pay for the SDK? (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Kai has that usenet thing got off the ground? (3-8,W. Klar) jim: nothing. but it also doesnt work... (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) (3-4,Scott Glasgow) I can already do news. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) No, I posted a CFV and they ( uvv.org ) are looking for a vote taker (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) I'm in Germany, Ludwigshafen, Pfalz (5 min from chancellor Kohl's place - (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) offtopic :-) ) (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Der geschenkte gaul... (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Is it the Sharp current version? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Ahhh, I am near Stuttgart (3-8,W. Klar) jim: dont think so... :-( (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Do you have the foraml one on order for $25K (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Scott.. You can do news...? (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Bo: o fcourse. (3-8,W. Klar) bo: we are working on the browser, linkit, mobile e.mail and internet (3-8,W. Klar) accesses.... (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Do you have the $25K formal version on order? (3-4,Scott Glasgow) 25k for what formal version? (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) Kai: Siegsche mol - unn koin Z-User meh zwische uns - 100% (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Winand.. The browser and internet acces is tht not the same thing? (3-8,W. Klar) jim: i think it is the right one, but in germany there are only a few sdk (3-8,W. Klar) around, all worth a lot but the germans didnt have to pay anything (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Scott Canpbell told me last year that is what it costs. Does it? (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Internet is TCP/IP and PPP (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Ralph: My father is from Fohr, my mother from Berlin, you can talk german (3-8,W. Klar) bo: not the same: portable internet access wont need anything but a gsm (3-8,W. Klar) cellular phone and also works with notebooks (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Winand.. Cooool (3-1,Kable Singh) Kai, Yes, the UK is still in the Eu. (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) kai: alla gut (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Kable: o.k. maybe a PIDGIN versio (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Winand what about a smart modem eliminating the need for large memory in the Z (3-8,W. Klar) kable: but how long they will stay... ;-) (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Winard, are your emplyees direct or contractors? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Ralph: trinke m oina (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Winand: Why didn't you contract Palmware to do the web browser for you since (3-4,Scott Glasgow) they obviously know their way around the Zaurus SDK? (3-8,W. Klar) arent: too expensive, especially for those who already own a modem (3-1,Kable Singh) Any form of English will do as long as I can get support. (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Good idea, Scott. (3-8,W. Klar) scott: guess where we get the new sdk... (3-1,Kable Singh) Winand, Depends when they have a referundum. (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Winand: I know...but using an interpreter instead of a true binary is more of a (3-4,Scott Glasgow) side option I would think. (3-8,W. Klar) they have more than pili! (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) good point but asmart modem is also of use with other palmtops and it can solve the fax receive conundrum (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Winand: is there a possibility to drop in at your place and visit Dux ?? (3-8,W. Klar) arent: its at least worth thinking about! (3-8,W. Klar) kai: of course - but if you bring zeus with you, we will get a little trouble i (3-8,W. Klar) guess (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Winand: What about a ISDN modem driver ??? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Scott: Same for you ! (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) It's a shame... i.e. I can't use AutoPilot due to this (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) English/European-language-Problem, right? (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Fax rx normally occupies your palmtop with an intelligent modem it can work in the background (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Winard, thank you for you participation and good luck. You (Rupp?) have my $100 (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) for one. I've got to leave. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Winand: Don't know, Zeus is a month old puppy (3-8,W. Klar) arent: yes, we already thought about that (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Scott... Any new stuff from RUPP these days.? (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Z-Em@il 2.01 was released. (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Jim.. take care, thank you for taking time to stop by. (3-8,W. Klar) kai: so bring him with you... one month and already a zaurus e-mail account! ;-) (3-4,Scott Glasgow) SynchroLynx 2.0 is coming soon. (3-8,W. Klar) scott: get me 15! (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Scott, what is the probability that there will be a ZBOOKS? (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Another project which will be released around November. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Bo: Yes a all printing GSM doing ISDN capable Newsreader, SMS sending. coffee (3-15,Kai Schmidt) cocking, foot preparing soemthing :-)) (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) Scott/Winand: Have you negotiated about shipping Z-mail 2.0 to Germany so far? (3-8,W. Klar) we will do! be sure! (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Jim: *shrug* I am told it will be done, but like I always say, what is Z-Book? (3-4,Scott Glasgow) There is just a bug the programmer who picked up the job has a problem tracking (3-4,Scott Glasgow) down. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Winand: six month (3-15,Kai Schmidt) sorry (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Ralph: I am not tied into the corporate/reseller sales. (3-4,Scott Glasgow) I'm more in the capacity of RuppSoft now. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Scott: you do a splendid job, continue. Please (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Scott, can you give us a hint on Novembers announcement? (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) What about a cross-licencing agreement scott and winand (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Yeah.. Scott what is comming up? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Jim: Read the forum, he already did (3-8,W. Klar) arent: no problems from my side! User User ID Nod Area Name ---- ------------- --- -------- ------------------- 1 100434,2542 GTO Rm 3 Kable Singh 2 113140,276 KRJ Rm 3 Ralph Kuehnl 3 75300,2517 CZA Rm 3 Bo Lorentzen (Sysop 4 72002,2444 CZJ Rm 3 Scott Glasgow 6 110072,2656 DDB Rm 3 Tibor T. Kun 7 105446,3404 MSE Rm 3 CHARLES A. KULAKA 8 113234,2571 GJD Rm 3 W. Klar 12 74777,2604 JGA Rm 3 Jim Christian (Syso 13 100703,717 JOC Rm 3 Stefan Sjoberg 15 106430,1223 ZBC Rm 3 Kai Schmidt 16 106016,3614 DJB Rm 3 Arent Kits van Heij 18 110152,1526 UUS Rm 3 CHOCHEE (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Kai, tell me. (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) So grill Scott a bit (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Jim: link product? (3-1,Kable Singh) Winand, I had a GPF so have missed a few lines. Seriously I am interested for (3-1,Kable Singh) use away from home and I am willing to settle for less than full 'PC' version. (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Scott, will OUTLOOK support come this year? You? Sharp? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) The super all printing sw (3-4,Scott Glasgow) As I said in a forum message, my link prints linked entries, the index mode I (3-4,Scott Glasgow) can insert or delete entries, link to Outlook and ACT, print calendars, labels, (3-4,Scott Glasgow) and more. (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Jim: SynchroLyxn 2.0 supports Outlook and something else in November will (3-4,Scott Glasgow) support Outlook,. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Scott, what about a kind of hot sync ??? ...... Pilot like (3-8,W. Klar) kai: deadly i think - look at the auto-detect in zr-application partner.... (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Rupplynx and Synchrolynx can't print >100 pages, has that been fixed? (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) A link for PINE on UNIX ,scott I know that you have a UNIX BOX with PINE on it (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Synching is in the product but not a hot synch like thing because the Zaurus (3-4,Scott Glasgow) doesn't have a synch button like the Pilot ;) (3-8,W. Klar) but se-500 has? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Winand: I use Rupp Lynx 4.0/ NT user (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Scott.. Mark just wrote a file about using LYNX, it is good, but we need a serve (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) r with LYNX installed which allows Zaurus users access, do you think that RUPP m (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) ay offer LYNX again? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Winand: did you get the privat talk ?? (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Jim: I haven't printed that many, so I cannot honestly answer that. (3-8,W. Klar) kai: no! :-0 (3-7,CHARLES A. KULAKA) 16:23 7/13/1997 (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Bo: I don't know if we will or not. Like I said once before, there are security (3-4,Scott Glasgow) holes in doing so which is why we stopped. There are quite a few servers which (3-4,Scott Glasgow) offer this already. (3-8,W. Klar) just another question: does anyone of the us guys know anything about that new (3-8,W. Klar) stuff se-500??? (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Scoot, I have 1500 Contacts and it stops at 100, hope it can be fixed someday, (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) although not a deal killer. (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) ..Yes I know but they seemd to quit after we published the address. I guess (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) that having anbother few hundrest Zaurus visit did not sit well with them. (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) WWell you can install lynx 2.7.1 and make it accessible by outbound telnet from CServe or local ISP Logon as usual Personal files area , (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) I'll have one of the first SE-500, maybe as early as this month. I'll report in (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) my new section. (3-8,W. Klar) bo: brontosaurus will offer it with the portable internet dial-in, soon! (3-4,Scott Glasgow) We haven't gotten the SE-500's in yet so I know nothing except what we have on (3-4,Scott Glasgow) our site. (3-8,W. Klar) scott, jim: thanks! - could you keep me updated? klar@brontosaurus.de (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Winand.. Will that be accessible to all Zaurus users? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) What about about a new Z generation. I am afraid we are losing contact to Psion (3-15,Kai Schmidt) and the rest (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Jim: Once I figure out how we plan on handling the new app, I'll see about (3-4,Scott Glasgow) getting you a copy to try out. (3-8,W. Klar) bo: yes, it will! (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Scott, thanks/ (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Winand: I'll try. You can always reach me via email. (3-8,W. Klar) kai: there will come some new devices, sure. (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Jim: probably have to do an NDA on this one since I'm thinking of trying the (3-4,Scott Glasgow) big bang release. (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Winand.. Please let me have a address and a password which we can put in the ibr (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) ary file when it is updated, (when you are ready ofcause) (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) downlodsIs se 500 EEA approvable (build-in modem) (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Winand, I doubt, cause Sharp in Germany is ............... (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Winard, it's easier for me if you monitor CSi's forum on the SE-500. (3-8,W. Klar) kai: i AM sure! ;-) check our www.zaurus.de! (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) Winand, could please say more about that dial-in? Ist espacially for GSM-Phones (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) or waht? (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Scott, done deal, I'll email you. (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Scott have you read my question? (3-8,W. Klar) bo: have a look on our page, we will have all the information there soon, also (3-8,W. Klar) in english! (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Ralph, there will be a D1 and D2 dial in (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Kits: I only say a statement...maybe I missed it? (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Winand..Will you continue to visit the forum. If you do please let me know and I (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) will set you up with free forum time. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Bo: whats the url of your side (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) SE-500 in Europe? (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Scott/Jim/Winand.. Can the SE-500 visit CompuServe? (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) kai: which tariff? 0,69 in daytime? (3-8,W. Klar) ralph: the dial in will be for both gsm systems and landline. it will work with (3-8,W. Klar) all kind of terminal or some trick with the built in zaurus software. everybody (3-8,W. Klar) who is a customer at brontosaurus will get his own e-mail account (e.g. (3-8,W. Klar) username@zaurus.de) and be able to access this account by ppp or direct dial in. (3-12,Jim Christian (Syso) Bo, don't think so, only email. (3-8,W. Klar) arent: no comment. check our site! (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Again, I don't know. I missed the SE-500 when it visited our office. (3-8,W. Klar) ralph: yes. 0.69 daytime, 0.39 nite (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Thanks Winand (3-8,W. Klar) bo: thanks! i'll send you an e-mail to discuss that further! (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Winand does it work with the build-in email client ? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Winand: think of Zeus (3-8,W. Klar) arent: either that or compuserve... ;-) (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) Winand: Sounds great. How do define "customer"? For now I've only purchased a (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) bag... with more to follow, i.e. a www-browser :-) (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Mailforward to CServe as alternative ? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Ralph, Winand sells terrific things, just give hime a call (3-8,W. Klar) ralph: right! but portable will be a little monthly fee after the first 3 (3-8,W. Klar) months... (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) I appresciate (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Winand.. Will you have a special offer for early orders on the www-browser? (3-8,W. Klar) bo: maybe, i think its too early to talk about that. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Winand: Can you post me some of your Gifs for my new homepage (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Winand.. Just checking. who do I make the check out to (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) Kai: I know, Winand has been helpful, even thoug didn't buy my Z at his (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) place... How could I have known before... Now I am a constant vistor of (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) www.zaurus.de (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Me too, Ralph! (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Well i use:http://users.aol.com/bronto01 (3-15,Kai Schmidt) BTW: Winand, Ralph: What do you thik of a User Group ?= (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) arent: which might be the same :-) (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) I have stored it in Word (3-8,W. Klar) arent: that site will die soon! we have switched to our own server a few days (3-8,W. Klar) ago. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Arent: use www.zaurus.de (3-8,W. Klar) kai: you can use our new discussion forum! i think that will do it well (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) Kai, Arent, Winand: Let's do that user group. no prob with me (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) So gratuliert ! Weg vom KONKURRENZ! (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Arents: Wat bedoel je ?? (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) AOL ist immer noch an einem uebernahme (3-15,Kai Schmidt) `Winand: Then you have to work on your links page! (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) intressiert hoertich im DLF (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) For you American guys: Here in Germany you must work together using a Z, it (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) seems! (3-15,Kai Schmidt) $!%$!%$!%$!% AOL (3-8,W. Klar) kai: we did, i think ;-) (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) kai Kai you,re not the only one (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) But AOL is faster - and more polite journalists than CS! (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Winand: of course. I haven't had any doubts !! (3-8,W. Klar) guys! i am sorry, but i have to go now! it was a great pleasure to meet you (3-8,W. Klar) all. good afternoon to the us guys, have a good nite in germany! (3-8,W. Klar) bye! (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) But can you access AOL from hand-helds? Nope (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) seeya (3-8,W. Klar) c u ! (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Bye Winand and thanks for stopping by. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Winand: talk to you tomorrow (Tibor Kun) THanks for coming - bye! (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) That's what I asked them AOLs, and they said they were working on it (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Tsuess (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Winand... Thank you for comming, we are very happy to hear about your products, (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) please come back soon. ALso feel free to visit the forum and post mess (3-8,W. Klar) scott, we will keep in touch! (3-4,Scott Glasgow) Sounds good. (3-8,W. Klar) bo, thanks, will get you an e-mail soon! (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Thank Winand (3-4,Scott Glasgow) I'm off. Everyone enjoy their afternoon/evening. (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) And off he went.... (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Winand: Think of Zeus, he will kill me :-))) (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Wwll Guys, thank you for comming, This really have been a cool little chat. (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) BYE scott (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) Who the heck is ZEUS? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) My dog (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) < (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) ' (Tibor Kun) This WAS very intesting (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) Yup. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Ralph: look at ww.zaurus.de, and you will find DUX (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) I think that even with limitations the browser will add to the value of the Zaur (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) us conc (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) Kai: I'll talk to you. Who's Dux? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Bo: qwithout kidding, we have to stress Sharp for a new Z (Tibor Kun) Yes. With Unix boxes going away, terminal going waway, we need something like that. And I'd die for tapping links! (3-15,Kai Schmidt) DUX => Winands dog (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Bo NEXT time I am on holiday and willnot participate (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Arent I am sorry to hear that. (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) I think still the futere of Z is quite unsure - and getting a new Z or whatever (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) PDA will cause loads of spent money again... (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) "De boog kan niet altijd gespannen blijven (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Bo: when will the next chat take place (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Well Let us all keep reminding SHARP that we love what they are doing but we als (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) o really want MORE POWER (HUH HUH). (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Arents: turlijck ( ??? ) (3-18,CHOCHEE) [B? (Tibor Kun) Isn't that MI-10 or whatever powerful? If so, then Sharp's got hte technology ... (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Kai... I think that Sunday Aug 3 will be a good time. (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) Bo - did you have a look into your Z to get that date? (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) As said bo I will be on holi day (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Hello Mark/Chochee How are you doing are you in terminal? (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Sweden (3-15,Kai Schmidt) 3 Aug, good, vacations, me and Zeus (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Ralph.. Yes I did. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Tibor, no camera. I want a PDA (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) Useful tool, pal! (Tibor Kun) Well, I guess uh ... that's a camera? I need to pay more attention! I gjust heard color display ... (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Ralph: what (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) , ga de tent sluiten morgen is er weer een dag (3-18,CHOCHEE) bO: INTERESTING CHAT , SORRY I COULDNT ADD TO THE COMP CHAT (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) Kai: Bo's Z (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Arent: welteruste, mijn nederlands gaat iederen dag en i have moe te herinneren (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Chochee... Being here adds to it already. What do you think, what a www-browser? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Ralph, only Bo's Z (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Tibor.. The MI-10 comes optional with a still camera which you can capture image (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) s with and then e-mail them directly from the unit. (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) Kai: mine also! (Tibor Kun) So you'd like one?, being a photographer, I gbet. Sounds like a good photographic journalism tool - neat! (3-18,CHOCHEE) Bo: yea I'll readd it off line I guess (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Ralph.. My Z now have glossy buttons, that is how much it have been used. (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) Boys (and girls??????) I gotta go. See you posting! (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Mine too ! (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Ralph... Good having you here, take care. see you soon. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Hi, just got a mail from murry. Greetings to everybody (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) And it is less than ayear old (Tibor Kun) Bye Ralph! (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Kai, do you know if Murray are writing any new cool software for the PILI? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Bye Ralph, I will call you (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) Tschuehueeeess! (this was German!) (3-2,Ralph Kuehnl) Jo, Kai! (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Later dude. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Bo: Yes! (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) That was Californian (3-15,Kai Schmidt) I will paste it (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) ...Kai What? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Actually a thought struck me last night, I used to run a BBS and (3-15,Kai Schmidt) I had several games that would go quite nicely on the Zaurus. Text (3-15,Kai Schmidt) only, but that shouldn't matter too much. I'll look into it some time. (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Hello Charles, we did not hear much from you, are you using the terminal? (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) You re late ! (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Bo: clear (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Clear? (3-15,Kai Schmidt) my laST POST WAS HIS email (3-7,CHARLES A. KULAKA) (Charles Charles A. Kulaka ) Bo: I enjoyed the chat? (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Clear is what I use to say before blowing something up In that school that was a blatst? (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Ah Kai Now I get it. I am looking forward to see what he is comming up with. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Bo: We are not in Denmark (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Charles, Glad you did, sometimes it is kind of hard to keep track off what is go (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) ing on in a chat. (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Kai.. What not in Denamrk... Now you tell me. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Hey, just got one question. Any idea of a project planner with the Z ?? Datafiles does pr(3-15,Kai Schmidt) oject planning very well ... (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Kai.. Most people use the filer to keep track of different entris for project pl (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) anning, and then print a statement from the filer once a week. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) Does it, I tried, and all my project crashed, not my fault, I was thinking (3-15,Kai Schmidt) about filer and linking (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) ... well Guys.. I am out of here. it is time to go ride my bike in the after noo (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) n. Have a great evening. (3-7,CHARLES A. KULAKA) (Charles Kulaka)Bo: really enjoyed the chat!? (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) BYE bo (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Arent. Have a good vacation. Bye Bo, see you in the forum ...! (3-7,CHARLES A. KULAKA) 16:59 7/13/1997 (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Thanks Keep you posted by mail (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) Charles hope to see you on Aug 3. Feel free to chat along. That is half of (3-3,Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) the fun. (3-15,Kai Schmidt) o.k guys bye bye (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) Idonot have dialback on holiday (Tibor Kun) later y'all <-- that's Texan for bye (3-16,Arent Kits van Heij) bye tibor (Tibor Kun)Bye Kits Exiting at 13-Jul-97 15:59:48