#: 22200 S12/Barbados/Grenada
    16-Jul-96  02:10:35
Sb: #Compuserve in barbados
Fm: Nick Gould/uk 100016,140
To: all

i am travelling to barbados next week.. i have a small computer an dmodem and
wish to use compuserve.
is there a local access number. or is it  best to use an american one ..?
what is thge most econmical.?

also what type od phone sockets do people have.. usa?

many many thanx

#: 22789 S1/Caribbean / General
    17-Jul-96  22:52:23
Sb: #22729-How CIS & Islands?
Fm: Jamaica Jim Jordan 74777,2574
To: Jim Christian 74777,2604

Jim...

>> I need to send Compuserve messages from various islands, are the jacks
RJ-11 & any problems with phone lines? <<

I'm sorry, but the Caribbean area, including the islands Bahamas and the
Bermuda Islands, comprizes more than a thousand separate islands and more than
twenty-five separate governmental entities.  There are more than fifty
"populated" islands and the Caribbean covers an area roughly equal to half of
the united States.  It is composed of diverse islands where the peoples speak
variously English, Spanish, French and Dutch, as well as many different kinds
of patios and even Papimento.

The various islands have different electrical systems with 110 - 120 volts @
60 hz, 110 - 120 volts @ 50 hz, 220 - 240 volts @ 50 hz being used on
different islands.  The telephone systems belong to a multitude of different
public and private companies.

I'm afraid that you need to be a bit more specific as to what island(s) you
plan to be trying to utilize your computer.  While I have accessed CompuServe
from the Caribbean, it's certainly not as easy as plugging into a Baby Bell's
system as it is here.

Let our members know where you're going and I'm sure some of them can give you
accurate information as to what you'll need to hook into cyber space.

Jamaica Jim Jordan

#: 22815 S1/Caribbean / General
    18-Jul-96  05:57:35
Sb: #22729-How CIS & Islands?
Fm: Marty Bush 76314,1104
To: Jim Christian 74777,2604

>> I need to send Compuserve messages from various islands, are the jacks
RJ-11 & any problems with phone lines? <<

Jim:

Depending on which islands you are talking about, generally all of the phone
lines in the Caribbean are of the standard jack type.

BUT.....  There is a great deal of difficulty getting access to Compuserve
from many of the islands without resorting to a long distance call (to Miami,
Puerto Rico, etc).

And even then, the line quality is not very good from some of the more
antiquated systems on some islands. So you may not make contact at all, have
reduced speeds, or just plain get knocked off line frequently.

Good luck, and let us know if we can help more.

  <=Marty Bush=> Bensalem PA 18-Jul-96 08:25
   The Jamerican Rastaman - Via OzWin V2.01
   Thanks for visiting The Caribbean Forum (GO CIS:CARIBFORUM)


#: 22736 S2/Bermuda, Bahamas
    17-Jul-96  18:52:08
Sb: CServe in the Bahamas?
Fm: Glen Freeman 76251,3170
To: sysop (X)

Does anyone know a local phone number to call from Nassau or any Bahamian
island to access CServe?  BATELCO seems to want to prevent all ways of
communicating other than through the grossly overpriced long distance service
in the Bahamas.

Glen 76251,3170

#: 22845 S1/Caribbean / General
    18-Jul-96  08:14:14
Sb: #22729-How CIS & Islands?
Fm: Le Bordelon 74277,671
To: Jim Christian 74777,2604

> I need to send Compuserve messages from various islands, are the jacks RJ-11
& any
> problems with phone lines?

Marty Bush's recommendation is probably the best, however if you have a cell
phone that accepts input from your computer, (and you have BIG bucks for the
bill), consider that method of communication.  We have had really good results
with the cell phone.  Call ahead for service to 1-800-BOATFON

Best,

            Le
The Caribbean Cajun Californian 


#: 23010 S1/Caribbean / General
    19-Jul-96  05:27:53
Sb: How CIS & Islands?
Fm: Stuart Monplaisir 74671,1436
To:  74777,2604

>> > I need to send Compuserve messages from various islands, are the jacks
RJ-11 & any problems with phone lines? <<

Jim
Speaking for St. Lucia.  The RJ11 jacks work fine.  However the nearest CIS
node is in Puerto Rico.  My suggestion would be to get a Navigator such as
OZWin or CIS Navigator.  This will allow you prepare any messages off line,
have the software dial PR upload all your messages, download your mail and any
forum messages and log off.  You can then read the messages off line.  Time on
the phone will be possibly one to two minutes depending in volume.  PR has a
28.8K port though speed may vary depending on the quality of the line.  SLU's
lines are usually clean so you should get the speed.  The Navigator will work
a damn sight faster than your fingers ever could.

There is another message here that talked about a CIS 800 number for the
Virgin islands.  I have heard that some of the non US islands apparently are
allowing you to dial 800 #'s it may be worth a try.  Check the costs first.

*Stu*

Stuart Monplaisir
Gainesville, Florida
Compuserve: 74671,1436     Internet: 74671.1436@Compuserve.com


#: 22993 S1/Caribbean / General
    18-Jul-96  22:16:55
Sb: #22815-#How CIS & Islands?
Fm: Nancy Martin 103472,3716
To: Marty Bush 76314,1104 (X)

I access Compuserve from the Virgin Islands through an 800 number.There are
several for this area: 1-800-848-4480  baud 300-2400 CPS 224MNP;
1-800-331-7166 baud 9600-14400 CPS V32bis; 1-800-454-8327 28800, CPS V34.  I
use the last two and usually connect at 26400, sometimes at 28 800 when the
line is unusually free of static.  Be warned Compuserve charges 10 cents a
minute.  You are remined three times when you  connect.  It is automatically
added to your Compuserve bill. This is cheaper than the long distannce rates.


 Nancy Martin

#: 23014 S1/Caribbean / General
    19-Jul-96  06:01:07
Sb: #22993-How CIS & Islands?
Fm: Marty Bush 76314,1104
To: Nancy Martin 103472,3716

>>  Be warned Compuserve charges 10 cents a minute.  You are reminded three
times when you  connect.  It is automatically added to your Compuserve bill.
This is cheaper than the long distance rates. <<

Nancy:

Thank you for this information.

I guess I should have realized that Compuserve's 800 number service would
extend to most of the Caribbean.......  But it does NOT to all islands and
nations.

I don't know if anywhere else is like Jamaica, where I travel to quite
frequently.  There is no ability to dial an 800 number unless to one of the
long distance services (AT&T, Sprint, MCI) to arrange an operator assisted
long distance call.

I assume that most of the islands do not have this restriction on 800 numbers,
so your information (actually reminding us and providing the numbers to boot)
is well appreciated.

OK... To to all that are following this message thread, the best current
methods of accessing Compuserve from anywhere in the Caribbean is:

1. Dial a direct node in the area if it exists.
2. Use the 800 number access if available in the area.
3. Use a ling distance call to the nearest CIS node.
4. Heaven forbid.... Use BoatFon.

  <=Marty Bush=> Bensalem PA 19-Jul-96 07:12
   The Jamerican Rastaman - Via OzWin V2.01
   Thanks for visiting The Caribbean Forum (GO CIS:CARIBFORUM)

#: 23114 S1/Caribbean / General
    19-Jul-96  23:49:10
Sb: #22993-How CIS & Islands?
Fm: CHERYL  STREMSKI 103765,1301
To: Nancy Martin 103472,3716 (X)

On the Big Island, Hawaii, we have some of those same 800 access numbers, the
first two.  I can only hook up to the first one at 2400 baud, though my modem
is 14.4 baud.  When I try that second 800 number, at higher baud rate, I have
all kinds of problems so have to use the first number.

I guess you are lucky that you can access CIS at higher baud rate from out in
the USVI and not have $70 a month bills like I do.

Cheryl (HIlo, HI.)


#: 23121 S2/Bermuda, Bahamas
    20-Jul-96  06:41:40
Sb: #22736-CServe in the Bahamas?
Fm: AMANDA M. GRAHAM 103621,2663
To: Glen Freeman 76251,3170

there is access, but as you said, it is punative, unreliable and grossly
overpriced. Batelco (Bahamas Telephone Co) does have the exclusive rights to
licensing, etc., so I doubt they will be changing anything soon. They are
currently advertising for bids to supply "online-service" in the Bahamas, but
how extensive this is remains to be seen. Digital in the Bahamas does provide
access, and they, of all of them, are most reliable, but still a far cry from
what we are used to here in the US. Try contacting Marjorie Colley, as she is
our resident expert in all the Bahamas online nuances... Good luck.

#: 28453 S1/Caribbean / General
    13-Sep-96  07:39:30
Sb: #More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Jerry Schneider 76702,667
To: All

While at CompuServe headquarters this week, I asked about how we could
encourage CIS to more quickly add Caribbean nodes.

It seems that we're in a bit of a catch-22 here, since they said that they
make addition decisions based on how much usage they're getting from a
particular areas.  This doesn't help most parts of the Caribbean if everyone
is dialing to San Juan or Miami.  It instead means that phone lines might be
added there instead.

What it boils down to is that anyone who wants to encourage CompuServe to add
Caribbean access should contact the department that makes these decisions and
let them know of your needs.  If you know others who would also benefit from
this, pass this message along.  The more folks who ask for access in a
particular place, the higher the priority would be.

The person to contact, I was told, is Andy Tong.  His email address is
CSI:ATONG   Just enter that, in email, as you would a normal numerical
address.


From the internet it's atong@cis.compuserve.com.

If Andy says there is another more appropriate person to contact, please let
me know.

jerry

#: 28459 S1/Caribbean / General
    13-Sep-96  08:22:26
Sb: #28453-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Jamaica Jim Jordan 74777,2574
To: Jerry Schneider 76702,667 (X)

Jerry...

Thanks for the news on how folks in The Caribbean Travel Forum who LIVE on,
and access CompuServe and this forum, from the islands of the Caribbean can go
about bringing it to the attention of TPTB of how MANY of our members log into
CompuServe!  Hopefully, some of the folks in the USVI's, who are regulars
here, and post super messages from there, will post Andy Tong an E-Mail
telling him how much a CompuServe local node would benefit not ONLY those
members, but ALL our members traveling to and within the USVI's.

I hope you won't mind, but I'm gonna copy your message into some of the geo
sections, where I know of members who are accessing the forum and CompuServe,
so they won't miss it!

We're all glad you made it back from your meetings at Columbus with TPTB of
CompuServe, a bit tired perhaps, but with news such as this which will benefit
all our forum family members!

Jamaica Jim

#: 28475 S1/Caribbean / General
    13-Sep-96  10:35:48
Sb: #28459-More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Stuart Monplaisir 74671,1436
To: Jamaica Jim Jordan 74777,2574 (X)

>> Hopefully, some of the folks in the USVI's, who are regulars here, and post
super messages from there, will post Andy Tong an E-Mail telling him how much
a CompuServe local node would benefit not ONLY those members, but ALL our
members traveling to and within the USVI's. <<

From St. Lucias standpoint a node in Barbados or Jamacia would be beneficial.
I don't think they will want to go with the other smaller islands. SLU only
has 405 internet/email users on Cable & Wireless.

The cost day/night to USVI is the same as PR at US$1.39/1.06/min but Bdos is
in band "A" which costs US$0.46/0.35/min and Jam is in band "B" which costs
US$0.93/0.70/min.

That would serve the string of islands with a node north in the USVI and one
in the south and then the others would have a choice of Jam or PR.

The question is will C&W let them in since they provide the same service and
will be competing for the same customers. I know AOL has a node in Martinique
at US$0.20/min therefore C&W is making a killing why give it up.

With OZwin or something similar the north/south nodes could work quite well.

Stu

Stuart Monplaisir
Gainesville, Florida
Compuserve: 74671,1436     Internet: 74671.1436@Compuserve.com

#: 28481 S1/Caribbean / General
    13-Sep-96  12:25:27
Sb: #28453-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Ray Goldenberg 70523,2243
To: Jerry Schneider 76702,667 (X)

Hi Jer,

>>  His email address is CSI:ATONG <<
On a different subject, did anyone mention when we members were going to be
able to use this "name" feature for our CSI address?  It seemed like many of
us registered our "name" addresses last year.

Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL

#: 28545 S1/Caribbean / General
    13-Sep-96  22:06:23
Sb: #28481-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Jerry Schneider 76702,667
To: Ray Goldenberg 70523,2243 (X)

Ray, sorry, there was no specific date mentioned for the alpha addresses.

What I can tell you is that the new CIS management people are well aware (if
they weren't before the meeting they still would be now) that our members are
eagerly awaiting the improvement.  They have some technical situations that
must first be resolved but they will get them handled.

I'm impressed by the management folks who have joined the company since the
last time I visited their headquarters.

Jer

#: 28550 S1/Caribbean / General
    14-Sep-96  06:35:38
Sb: #28545-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Ray Goldenberg 70523,2243
To: Jerry Schneider 76702,667 (X)

Hi Jer,

I am glad to hear of their awareness.  I really appreciate the update.

Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL

#: 28485 S1/Caribbean / General
    13-Sep-96  13:20:04
Sb: #28453-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Marty Bush 76314,1104
To: Jerry Schneider 76702,667 (X)

>>  His email address is CSI:ATONG <<

Jer:

Is it really "CSI" and not "CIS"??????

<=Marty Bush=> Bensalem PA 13-Sep-96 16:17
   The Jamerican Rastaman - Via OzWin V2.10 (g5)
   Thanks for visiting The Caribbean Forum (GO CIS:CARIBFORUM)

#: 28523 S1/Caribbean / General
    13-Sep-96  18:23:16
Sb: #28485-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Hugh Wyn Griffith FL 104074,3631
To: Marty Bush 76314,1104 (X)

Marty -- and all,

<< Is it really "CSI" and not "CIS"?????? >>

    CSI -- yes CSI -- is an internal CompuServe staff address.

    (It probably stands for Compu Serve Internal)

It takes messages directly to the person concerned whereas the FEEDBACK stuff
goes into a pool and anyone may answer.

Check what your comms program does -- if it adds

    CIS:

to outgoing addresses then you have to find a way of deleting this or it will
be rejected.

The "new" addresses are on (infinite?) hold and there is a lot of confusion as
to whether they are being held or not for those who applied for them.

 Hugh Wyn Griffith

 Using Virtual Access OLR Ver 3.5 on WIN95
 ****  PLEASE NOTE MY NEW CIS ID: 104074,3631 *** 

#: 28528 S1/Caribbean / General
    13-Sep-96  19:09:22
Sb: #28523-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Marty Bush 76314,1104
To: Hugh Wyn Griffith FL 104074,3631 (X)

>>     CSI -- yes CSI -- is an internal CompuServe staff address. <<

Hugh:

Interesting.....  and I thank you for the response.  But how do you know of
this?

>> The "new" addresses are on (infinite?) hold and there is a lot of confusion
as to whether they are being held or not for those who applied for them. <<

Some of us have established a Web page here on CIS.   And for those that have,
it is the only use of the "New" addresses.   For example, my Web page is
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/martybush/   And it works like a
champ......

I guess this is the ONLY use so far of the new addresses that many of us
applied for a while ago.  I guess we all have to wait to see what Compuserve
will eventually do about this.....

<=Marty Bush=> Bensalem PA 13-Sep-96 21:42
   The Jamerican Rastaman - Via OzWin V2.10 (g5)
   Thanks for visiting The Caribbean Forum (GO CIS:CARIBFORUM)

#: 28602 S1/Caribbean / General
    14-Sep-96  18:46:15
Sb: #28528-More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Hugh Wyn Griffith FL 104074,3631
To: Marty Bush 76314,1104 (X)

Marty,

I came across the CSI address system when I was in touch with CIS about an ID
matter and it needed the continued attention of one person, who used a CSI
address.

It also cropped up in ASMOUNT, the forum for my OLR, where the business of
"CIS:CSI abcdefghi" cropped up when it didn't get my messages to him <g>

I did not know the "new addresses" related to web pages -- I've only come
across problems when people have suddenly had an error message when connecting
to CIS.

 Hugh Wyn Griffith

 Using Virtual Access OLR Ver 3.5 on WIN95
 ****  PLEASE NOTE MY NEW CIS ID: 104074,3631 *** 

#: 28541 S1/Caribbean / General
    13-Sep-96  21:57:03
Sb: #28523-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Jerry Schneider 76702,667
To: Hugh Wyn Griffith FL 104074,3631 (X)

Having just come back from CompuServe's headquarters I can tell you that it is
a priority to both get the alpha addresses working and to find a better web
site domain name.

I don't have a timetable but can tell you that CIS is working on the problems,
have scads of new equipment on order and arriving soon, and that they are
aware of the importance.

Jer

#: 28603 S1/Caribbean / General
    14-Sep-96  18:46:19
Sb: #28541-More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Hugh Wyn Griffith FL 104074,3631
To: Jerry Schneider 76702,667 (X)

Jerry,

I read about your visit with interest.

We all hope that CIS keeps up despite the reported loss of members, or
reduction in growth rate.

If they can get the main bugs out of NISA forums it will be great. They have
gone from crawling compared with the old forums to being much faster, in my
limited experience with them: CRUISE & USROBOTICS are consistently 1.5 to 2x
the message download speed of traditional forums. This has surprised many of
my friends on ASHMOUNT.

 Hugh Wyn Griffith

 Using Virtual Access OLR Ver 3.5 on WIN95
 ****  PLEASE NOTE MY NEW CIS ID: 104074,3631 *** 

#: 28536 S1/Caribbean / General
    13-Sep-96  20:23:20
Sb: #28485-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Jamaica Jim Jordan 74777,2574
To: Marty Bush 76314,1104 (X)

Marty...

>> Is it really "CSI" and not "CIS"?????? <<

It IS "CSI" - not "CIS".

JJJ

#: 28572 S1/Caribbean / General
    14-Sep-96  14:23:36
Sb: #28536-More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Marty Bush 76314,1104
To: Jamaica Jim Jordan 74777,2574 (X)

>> It IS "CSI" - not "CIS". <<

Thought for sure that Jer had a typo.

But someone else also explained it as an internal CIS address at "CSI".

Thanks,

<=Marty Bush=> Bensalem PA 14-Sep-96 15:44
   The Jamerican Rastaman - Via OzWin V2.10 (g5)

#: 28588 S1/Caribbean / General
    14-Sep-96  17:59:04
Sb: #28536-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Ray Goldenberg 70523,2243
To: Jamaica Jim Jordan 74777,2574 (X)

Hi JJJ,

I read recently, but I don't recall where, that Compuserve is now known as CSI
as in CompuServe Information.  They were dropping the old CIS logo.
It really doesn't make a great deal of difference to me.<g>

Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL

#: 28607 S1/Caribbean / General
    14-Sep-96  19:36:36
Sb: #28588-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Jerry Schneider 76702,667
To: Ray Goldenberg 70523,2243 (X)

Things are confusing, re the logo.  The parent company has a new logo, a black
circle with a sliver of moon in it.  I don't know if this will also be the
logo for CIS or just the parent.

Jer

#: 28652 S1/Caribbean / General
    15-Sep-96  10:07:21
Sb: #28607-More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Stuart Monplaisir 74671,1436
To: Jerry Schneider 76702,667 (X)

>> Things are confusing, re the logo.  The parent company has a new logo, a
black circle with a sliver of moon in it.  I don't know if this will also be
the logo for CIS or just the parent. <<

Shades of Procter and Gamble and their logo and probs with the occult worship
stories

 Stu

Stuart Monplaisir
Gainesville, Florida
Compuserve: 74671,1436     Internet: 74671.1436@Compuserve.com


#: 28460 S2/Bermuda, Bahamas
    13-Sep-96  08:25:22
Sb: #More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Jamaica Jim Jordan 74777,2574
To: All

(The following message was posted by Jerry Schneiderman in section 1.  I'm
copying it for members in Bermuda and the Bahamas who may want to post a
request for consideration of local CIS nodes in the islands.)

While at CompuServe headquarters this week, I asked about how we could
encourage CIS to more quickly add Caribbean nodes.

It seems that we're in a bit of a catch-22 here, since they said that they
make addition decisions based on how much usage they're getting from a
particular areas.  This doesn't help most parts of the Caribbean if everyone
is dialing to San Juan or Miami.  It instead means that phone lines might be
added there instead.

What it boils down to is that anyone who wants to encourage CompuServe to add
Caribbean access should contact the department that makes these decisions and
let them know of your needs.  If you know others who would also benefit from
this, pass this message along.  The more folks who ask for access in a
particular place, the higher the priority would be.

The person to contact, I was told, is Andy Tong.  His email address is
CSI:ATONG   Just enter that, in email, as you would a normal numerical
address.


From the internet it's atong@cis.compuserve.com.

If Andy says there is another more appropriate person to contact, please let
me know.

jerry

#: 29542 S2/Bermuda, Bahamas
    20-Sep-96  17:02:41
Sb: #28460-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Marjorie  B. Colley 103666,567
To: Jamaica Jim Jordan 74777,2574 (X)

Thanks for asking about access and hopefully if there are enough people
pushing for it, it may happen. I'll be sure to contact the people I know who
would like it. As of now I am aware if about 20 to 25  people who would use
the Compuserve access if it were available as a local 809 (242) number.
Including the all age school in Hopetown which now has a new computor with
Modem donated to them by a friend of mine and they are anxiously awaiting
local access. We called in via Rochester, NY and Fall River, MA, while we were
and the kids were fascinated.
Hope you had a good trip.! I had thought you were going to Jamaica. Any trip
is a good break though.

#: 29572 S2/Bermuda, Bahamas
    20-Sep-96  23:10:45
Sb: #29542-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Jamaica Jim Jordan 74777,2574
To: Marjorie  B. Colley 103666,567 (X)

Marjorie...

Glad to hear that y'all are helping to publicize to others to E-Mail
CompuServe's PTB to try for increased access in the Caribbean.  They're
certainly missing a huge group of potential users.

>> Hope you had a good trip.! I had thought you were going to Jamaica. Any
trip is a good break though. <<

I did go to Jamaica!  I returned on September 9th, a week ago last monday.  It
WAS great!  I absodamnlutely agree - ANY trip is a good break!!

JJJ

#: 30151 S2/Bermuda, Bahamas
    25-Sep-96  22:09:05
Sb: #29572-More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Marjorie  B. Colley 103666,567
To: Jamaica Jim Jordan 74777,2574 (X)

I suggested that EACH of the children at the all age school might like to send
a separate letter. That should get some attention if they mail them all
separately!


#: 28465 S7/St.Martin/St.Barts
    13-Sep-96  08:29:54
Sb: More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Jamaica Jim Jordan 74777,2574
To: Jerry Schneider 76702,667 (X)

(The following message was posted by Jerry Schneiderman in section 1.  I'm
copying it for members in St. Martin/St. Maarten and St. Barts who may want to
post a request for consideration of local CIS nodes in the islands.)

While at CompuServe headquarters this week, I asked about how we could
encourage CIS to more quickly add Caribbean nodes.

It seems that we're in a bit of a catch-22 here, since they said that they
make addition decisions based on how much usage they're getting from a
particular areas.  This doesn't help most parts of the Caribbean if everyone
is dialing to San Juan or Miami.  It instead means that phone lines might be
added there instead.

What it boils down to is that anyone who wants to encourage CompuServe to add
Caribbean access should contact the department that makes these decisions and
let them know of your needs.  If you know others who would also benefit from
this, pass this message along.  The more folks who ask for access in a
particular place, the higher the priority would be.

The person to contact, I was told, is Andy Tong.  His email address is
CSI:ATONG   Just enter that, in email, as you would a normal numerical
address.


From the internet it's atong@cis.compuserve.com.

If Andy says there is another more appropriate person to contact, please let
me know.

jerry

#: 28453 S1/Caribbean / General
    13-Sep-96  07:39:30
Sb: #More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Jerry Schneider 76702,667
To: All

While at CompuServe headquarters this week, I asked about how we could
encourage CIS to more quickly add Caribbean nodes.

It seems that we're in a bit of a catch-22 here, since they said that they
make addition decisions based on how much usage they're getting from a
particular areas.  This doesn't help most parts of the Caribbean if everyone
is dialing to San Juan or Miami.  It instead means that phone lines might be
added there instead.

What it boils down to is that anyone who wants to encourage CompuServe to add
Caribbean access should contact the department that makes these decisions and
let them know of your needs.  If you know others who would also benefit from
this, pass this message along.  The more folks who ask for access in a
particular place, the higher the priority would be.

The person to contact, I was told, is Andy Tong.  His email address is
CSI:ATONG   Just enter that, in email, as you would a normal numerical
address.


From the internet it's atong@cis.compuserve.com.

If Andy says there is another more appropriate person to contact, please let
me know.

jerry

#: 28459 S1/Caribbean / General
    13-Sep-96  08:22:26
Sb: #28453-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Jamaica Jim Jordan 74777,2574
To: Jerry Schneider 76702,667 (X)

Jerry...

Thanks for the news on how folks in The Caribbean Travel Forum who LIVE on,
and access CompuServe and this forum, from the islands of the Caribbean can go
about bringing it to the attention of TPTB of how MANY of our members log into
CompuServe!  Hopefully, some of the folks in the USVI's, who are regulars
here, and post super messages from there, will post Andy Tong an E-Mail
telling him how much a CompuServe local node would benefit not ONLY those
members, but ALL our members traveling to and within the USVI's.

I hope you won't mind, but I'm gonna copy your message into some of the geo
sections, where I know of members who are accessing the forum and CompuServe,
so they won't miss it!

We're all glad you made it back from your meetings at Columbus with TPTB of
CompuServe, a bit tired perhaps, but with news such as this which will benefit
all our forum family members!

Jamaica Jim

#: 28475 S1/Caribbean / General
    13-Sep-96  10:35:48
Sb: #28459-More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Stuart Monplaisir 74671,1436
To: Jamaica Jim Jordan 74777,2574 (X)

>> Hopefully, some of the folks in the USVI's, who are regulars here, and post
super messages from there, will post Andy Tong an E-Mail telling him how much
a CompuServe local node would benefit not ONLY those members, but ALL our
members traveling to and within the USVI's. <<

From St. Lucias standpoint a node in Barbados or Jamacia would be beneficial.
I don't think they will want to go with the other smaller islands. SLU only
has 405 internet/email users on Cable & Wireless.

The cost day/night to USVI is the same as PR at US$1.39/1.06/min but Bdos is
in band "A" which costs US$0.46/0.35/min and Jam is in band "B" which costs
US$0.93/0.70/min.

That would serve the string of islands with a node north in the USVI and one
in the south and then the others would have a choice of Jam or PR.

The question is will C&W let them in since they provide the same service and
will be competing for the same customers. I know AOL has a node in Martinique
at US$0.20/min therefore C&W is making a killing why give it up.

With OZwin or something similar the north/south nodes could work quite well.

Stu

Stuart Monplaisir
Gainesville, Florida
Compuserve: 74671,1436     Internet: 74671.1436@Compuserve.com

#: 28481 S1/Caribbean / General
    13-Sep-96  12:25:27
Sb: #28453-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Ray Goldenberg 70523,2243
To: Jerry Schneider 76702,667 (X)

Hi Jer,

>>  His email address is CSI:ATONG <<
On a different subject, did anyone mention when we members were going to be
able to use this "name" feature for our CSI address?  It seemed like many of
us registered our "name" addresses last year.

Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL

#: 28545 S1/Caribbean / General
    13-Sep-96  22:06:23
Sb: #28481-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Jerry Schneider 76702,667
To: Ray Goldenberg 70523,2243 (X)

Ray, sorry, there was no specific date mentioned for the alpha addresses.

What I can tell you is that the new CIS management people are well aware (if
they weren't before the meeting they still would be now) that our members are
eagerly awaiting the improvement.  They have some technical situations that
must first be resolved but they will get them handled.

I'm impressed by the management folks who have joined the company since the
last time I visited their headquarters.

Jer

#: 28550 S1/Caribbean / General
    14-Sep-96  06:35:38
Sb: #28545-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Ray Goldenberg 70523,2243
To: Jerry Schneider 76702,667 (X)

Hi Jer,

I am glad to hear of their awareness.  I really appreciate the update.

Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL

#: 28485 S1/Caribbean / General
    13-Sep-96  13:20:04
Sb: #28453-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Marty Bush 76314,1104
To: Jerry Schneider 76702,667 (X)

>>  His email address is CSI:ATONG <<

Jer:

Is it really "CSI" and not "CIS"??????

<=Marty Bush=> Bensalem PA 13-Sep-96 16:17
   The Jamerican Rastaman - Via OzWin V2.10 (g5)
   Thanks for visiting The Caribbean Forum (GO CIS:CARIBFORUM)

#: 28523 S1/Caribbean / General
    13-Sep-96  18:23:16
Sb: #28485-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Hugh Wyn Griffith FL 104074,3631
To: Marty Bush 76314,1104 (X)

Marty -- and all,

<< Is it really "CSI" and not "CIS"?????? >>

    CSI -- yes CSI -- is an internal CompuServe staff address.

    (It probably stands for Compu Serve Internal)

It takes messages directly to the person concerned whereas the FEEDBACK stuff
goes into a pool and anyone may answer.

Check what your comms program does -- if it adds

    CIS:

to outgoing addresses then you have to find a way of deleting this or it will
be rejected.

The "new" addresses are on (infinite?) hold and there is a lot of confusion as
to whether they are being held or not for those who applied for them.

 Hugh Wyn Griffith

 Using Virtual Access OLR Ver 3.5 on WIN95
 ****  PLEASE NOTE MY NEW CIS ID: 104074,3631 *** 

#: 28528 S1/Caribbean / General
    13-Sep-96  19:09:22
Sb: #28523-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Marty Bush 76314,1104
To: Hugh Wyn Griffith FL 104074,3631 (X)

>>     CSI -- yes CSI -- is an internal CompuServe staff address. <<

Hugh:

Interesting.....  and I thank you for the response.  But how do you know of
this?

>> The "new" addresses are on (infinite?) hold and there is a lot of confusion
as to whether they are being held or not for those who applied for them. <<

Some of us have established a Web page here on CIS.   And for those that have,
it is the only use of the "New" addresses.   For example, my Web page is
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/martybush/   And it works like a
champ......

I guess this is the ONLY use so far of the new addresses that many of us
applied for a while ago.  I guess we all have to wait to see what Compuserve
will eventually do about this.....

<=Marty Bush=> Bensalem PA 13-Sep-96 21:42
   The Jamerican Rastaman - Via OzWin V2.10 (g5)
   Thanks for visiting The Caribbean Forum (GO CIS:CARIBFORUM)

#: 28602 S1/Caribbean / General
    14-Sep-96  18:46:15
Sb: #28528-More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Hugh Wyn Griffith FL 104074,3631
To: Marty Bush 76314,1104 (X)

Marty,

I came across the CSI address system when I was in touch with CIS about an ID
matter and it needed the continued attention of one person, who used a CSI
address.

It also cropped up in ASMOUNT, the forum for my OLR, where the business of
"CIS:CSI abcdefghi" cropped up when it didn't get my messages to him <g>

I did not know the "new addresses" related to web pages -- I've only come
across problems when people have suddenly had an error message when connecting
to CIS.

 Hugh Wyn Griffith

 Using Virtual Access OLR Ver 3.5 on WIN95
 ****  PLEASE NOTE MY NEW CIS ID: 104074,3631 *** 

#: 28541 S1/Caribbean / General
    13-Sep-96  21:57:03
Sb: #28523-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Jerry Schneider 76702,667
To: Hugh Wyn Griffith FL 104074,3631 (X)

Having just come back from CompuServe's headquarters I can tell you that it is
a priority to both get the alpha addresses working and to find a better web
site domain name.

I don't have a timetable but can tell you that CIS is working on the problems,
have scads of new equipment on order and arriving soon, and that they are
aware of the importance.

Jer

#: 28603 S1/Caribbean / General
    14-Sep-96  18:46:19
Sb: #28541-More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Hugh Wyn Griffith FL 104074,3631
To: Jerry Schneider 76702,667 (X)

Jerry,

I read about your visit with interest.

We all hope that CIS keeps up despite the reported loss of members, or
reduction in growth rate.

If they can get the main bugs out of NISA forums it will be great. They have
gone from crawling compared with the old forums to being much faster, in my
limited experience with them: CRUISE & USROBOTICS are consistently 1.5 to 2x
the message download speed of traditional forums. This has surprised many of
my friends on ASHMOUNT.

 Hugh Wyn Griffith

 Using Virtual Access OLR Ver 3.5 on WIN95
 ****  PLEASE NOTE MY NEW CIS ID: 104074,3631 *** 

#: 28536 S1/Caribbean / General
    13-Sep-96  20:23:20
Sb: #28485-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Jamaica Jim Jordan 74777,2574
To: Marty Bush 76314,1104 (X)

Marty...

>> Is it really "CSI" and not "CIS"?????? <<

It IS "CSI" - not "CIS".

JJJ

#: 28572 S1/Caribbean / General
    14-Sep-96  14:23:36
Sb: #28536-More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Marty Bush 76314,1104
To: Jamaica Jim Jordan 74777,2574 (X)

>> It IS "CSI" - not "CIS". <<

Thought for sure that Jer had a typo.

But someone else also explained it as an internal CIS address at "CSI".

Thanks,

<=Marty Bush=> Bensalem PA 14-Sep-96 15:44
   The Jamerican Rastaman - Via OzWin V2.10 (g5)

#: 28588 S1/Caribbean / General
    14-Sep-96  17:59:04
Sb: #28536-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Ray Goldenberg 70523,2243
To: Jamaica Jim Jordan 74777,2574 (X)

Hi JJJ,

I read recently, but I don't recall where, that Compuserve is now known as CSI
as in CompuServe Information.  They were dropping the old CIS logo.
It really doesn't make a great deal of difference to me.<g>

Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL

#: 28607 S1/Caribbean / General
    14-Sep-96  19:36:36
Sb: #28588-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Jerry Schneider 76702,667
To: Ray Goldenberg 70523,2243 (X)

Things are confusing, re the logo.  The parent company has a new logo, a black
circle with a sliver of moon in it.  I don't know if this will also be the
logo for CIS or just the parent.

Jer

#: 28652 S1/Caribbean / General
    15-Sep-96  10:07:21
Sb: #28607-More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Stuart Monplaisir 74671,1436
To: Jerry Schneider 76702,667 (X)

>> Things are confusing, re the logo.  The parent company has a new logo, a
black circle with a sliver of moon in it.  I don't know if this will also be
the logo for CIS or just the parent. <<

Shades of Procter and Gamble and their logo and probs with the occult worship
stories

 Stu

Stuart Monplaisir
Gainesville, Florida
Compuserve: 74671,1436     Internet: 74671.1436@Compuserve.com


#: 28460 S2/Bermuda, Bahamas
    13-Sep-96  08:25:22
Sb: #More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Jamaica Jim Jordan 74777,2574
To: All

(The following message was posted by Jerry Schneiderman in section 1.  I'm
copying it for members in Bermuda and the Bahamas who may want to post a
request for consideration of local CIS nodes in the islands.)

While at CompuServe headquarters this week, I asked about how we could
encourage CIS to more quickly add Caribbean nodes.

It seems that we're in a bit of a catch-22 here, since they said that they
make addition decisions based on how much usage they're getting from a
particular areas.  This doesn't help most parts of the Caribbean if everyone
is dialing to San Juan or Miami.  It instead means that phone lines might be
added there instead.

What it boils down to is that anyone who wants to encourage CompuServe to add
Caribbean access should contact the department that makes these decisions and
let them know of your needs.  If you know others who would also benefit from
this, pass this message along.  The more folks who ask for access in a
particular place, the higher the priority would be.

The person to contact, I was told, is Andy Tong.  His email address is
CSI:ATONG   Just enter that, in email, as you would a normal numerical
address.


From the internet it's atong@cis.compuserve.com.

If Andy says there is another more appropriate person to contact, please let
me know.

jerry

#: 29542 S2/Bermuda, Bahamas
    20-Sep-96  17:02:41
Sb: #28460-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Marjorie  B. Colley 103666,567
To: Jamaica Jim Jordan 74777,2574 (X)

Thanks for asking about access and hopefully if there are enough people
pushing for it, it may happen. I'll be sure to contact the people I know who
would like it. As of now I am aware if about 20 to 25  people who would use
the Compuserve access if it were available as a local 809 (242) number.
Including the all age school in Hopetown which now has a new computor with
Modem donated to them by a friend of mine and they are anxiously awaiting
local access. We called in via Rochester, NY and Fall River, MA, while we were
and the kids were fascinated.
Hope you had a good trip.! I had thought you were going to Jamaica. Any trip
is a good break though.

#: 29572 S2/Bermuda, Bahamas
    20-Sep-96  23:10:45
Sb: #29542-#More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Jamaica Jim Jordan 74777,2574
To: Marjorie  B. Colley 103666,567 (X)

Marjorie...

Glad to hear that y'all are helping to publicize to others to E-Mail
CompuServe's PTB to try for increased access in the Caribbean.  They're
certainly missing a huge group of potential users.

>> Hope you had a good trip.! I had thought you were going to Jamaica. Any
trip is a good break though. <<

I did go to Jamaica!  I returned on September 9th, a week ago last monday.  It
WAS great!  I absodamnlutely agree - ANY trip is a good break!!

JJJ

#: 30151 S2/Bermuda, Bahamas
    25-Sep-96  22:09:05
Sb: #29572-More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Marjorie  B. Colley 103666,567
To: Jamaica Jim Jordan 74777,2574 (X)

I suggested that EACH of the children at the all age school might like to send
a separate letter. That should get some attention if they mail them all
separately!


#: 28465 S7/St.Martin/St.Barts
    13-Sep-96  08:29:54
Sb: More CIS Access Areas?
Fm: Jamaica Jim Jordan 74777,2574
To: Jerry Schneider 76702,667 (X)

(The following message was posted by Jerry Schneiderman in section 1.  I'm
copying it for members in St. Martin/St. Maarten and St. Barts who may want to
post a request for consideration of local CIS nodes in the islands.)

While at CompuServe headquarters this week, I asked about how we could
encourage CIS to more quickly add Caribbean nodes.

It seems that we're in a bit of a catch-22 here, since they said that they
make addition decisions based on how much usage they're getting from a
particular areas.  This doesn't help most parts of the Caribbean if everyone
is dialing to San Juan or Miami.  It instead means that phone lines might be
added there instead.

What it boils down to is that anyone who wants to encourage CompuServe to add
Caribbean access should contact the department that makes these decisions and
let them know of your needs.  If you know others who would also benefit from
this, pass this message along.  The more folks who ask for access in a
particular place, the higher the priority would be.

The person to contact, I was told, is Andy Tong.  His email address is
CSI:ATONG   Just enter that, in email, as you would a normal numerical
address.


From the internet it's atong@cis.compuserve.com.

If Andy says there is another more appropriate person to contact, please let
me know.

jerry

