#: 57792 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    11-Aug-96  15:12:29
Sb: #57783-Europe with a ZR-5000?
Fm: Edward M. Stadum 100322,110
To: Int'l & Ethnic Comm., In 74512,3034 (X)

I live in Germany and have been on-line with my Z1 all over this country & in
Italy as well, by means of the sidecar modem, a Motorola PCMCIA card and a GSM
card connected to a GSM digital phone.  France will be no problem.  Ditto,
Slovenia, although you might have to dial out to the CompuServe node in Munich
to get on line from Slovenia, unless there is now a node there.  That is easy
to check.  You should have no problems.  Buy an adaptor for your U.S. RJ11
phone jack in an electronic store.  Be prepared to unplug hotel phones from
the wall or at the phone set (you won't find many hotels with data port
phones).  Don't forget to enter the hotel's outside line access number
(usually 0 in Germany) in your dialing string.  Also don't forget to GO PHONES
before you leave and store in your Z the CompuServe access numbers in the
countries and cities where you will be travelling.  Saves fumbling around once
you get there.  Try visiting the country forums and forum libraries for your
proposed countries in CompuServe.  You will often find good info in those
forums about getting on line.  The problem is not unique to Z users.  I know
that is true of Italy.  I used a file from the forum library there before
travelling to Italy.

Schoene Reise!

Ed

#: 59330 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    21-Aug-96  21:06:34
Sb: #59224-#Help Dial in Italy nodes
Fm: Roger Friedenthal 73137,260
To: Kable Singh 100434,2542 (X)

Kable

Compuserve gives the following numbers from Member Services for Italy:
(Sorry, the tabs get all scrambled)  I hope this helps.

Roger


                    COUNTRY  AREA
CITY                  CODE   CODE      PHONE NUMBER  NTW BAUD RATE
------------------- ------- ------   --------------- ---
-----------------------
AGRIGENTO                39     0922          604199 SEV 2400-9600
ANCONA                   39      071         2801610 SEV 2400-9600
AREZZO                   39     0575           23577 SEV 2400-9600
BARI                     39       80         5316136 SCI 300-9600
BARI                     39      080         5741033 SEV 2400-9600
BERGAMO                  39      035          270198 SEV 2400-9600
BOLOGNA-A                39      051         6575037 SEV 2400-9600
BOLOGNA-M                39      051          735665 SEV 2400-14,400
BOLOGNA-M                39      051          250004 SEV 2400-9600
BOLZANO                  39      471          981783 SCI 300-9600
BRESCIA                  39      030         2421505 SEV 2400-9600
CAGLIARI                 39      070          655163 SEV 2400-14,400
CATANIA                  39       95          532557 SCI 300-9600
CATANIA                  39      095          447617 SEV 2400-9600
CESENA                   39     0547          610796 SEV 2400-14,400
COSENZA                  39     0984          413320 SEV 2400-9600
FAENZA                   39     0546          680267 SEV 2400-14,400
FANO                     39     0721          826803 SEV 2400-14,400
FIRENZE                  39      055         5000480 SEV 2400-9600

                    COUNTRY  AREA
CITY                  CODE   CODE      PHONE NUMBER  NTW BAUD RATE
------------------- ------- ------   --------------- ---
-----------------------
FLORENCE                 39       55         2382438 SCI 300-28,800
FORLI                    39     0543          739119 SEV 2400-9600
GENOA                    39       10          588162 SCI 300-28,800
GENOVA                   39      010         5536208 SEV 2400-9600
IVREA                    39     0125          523741 SEV 2400
IVREA                    39     0125          644040 SEV 2400-9600
MANTOVA                  39     0376          223566 SEV 2400-9600
MESSINA                  39      090          674330 SEV 2400-9600
MILAN                    39       02        22479532 CPS 1200-28,800
MILAN                    39       02         2155072 INF 300-2400
MILAN                    39       02         2157121 INF 300-2400
MILAN                    39       02         2157681 INF 300-2400
MILAN                    39       02         2157814 INF 300-2400
MODENA                   39      059          589058 SEV 2400-9600
NAPLES                   39       81         5512011 SCI 300-28,800
NAPOLI                   39      081         7644326 SEV 2400-9600
PADOVA                   39      049         8073160 SEV 2400-9600
PALERMO                  39      091         6169256 SEV 2400-9600
PARMA                    39     0521          250023 SEV 2400-9600

                    COUNTRY  AREA
CITY                  CODE   CODE      PHONE NUMBER  NTW BAUD RATE
------------------- ------- ------   --------------- ---
-----------------------
PERUGIA                  39      075         5732644 SEV 2400
PESCARA                  39      085         4215799 SEV 2400-9600
PIACENZA                 39     0523          453150 SEV 2400-9600
R. EMILIA                39     0522          586193 SEV 2400-9600
RAVENNA                  39     0544          404073 SEV 2400-9600
RIMINI                   39     0541          785964 SEV 2400-9600
ROME                     39       06        51957347 CPS 1200-28,800
ROME                     39       06         2315728 INF 300-2400
SIENA                    39     0577           44946 SEV 2400-9600
SIRACUSA                 39     0931          441892 SEV 2400-9600
TORINO                   39      011         5612998 SEV 2400-9600
TRAPANI                  39     0923          553222 SEV 2400-9600
TRENTO                   39     0461          932931 SEV 2400-9600
TURIN                    39       11          533554 SCI 300-28,800
UDINE                    39     0432          523300 SEV 2400-9600
VENEZIA                  39      041         5312970 SEV 2400-14,400
VENICE                   39       41         5415113 SCI 300-28,800
VERONA                   39       45         8002387 SCI 300-28,800
VERONA                   39      045         8010800 SEV 2400-9600

                    COUNTRY  AREA
CITY                  CODE   CODE      PHONE NUMBER  NTW BAUD RATE
------------------- ------- ------   --------------- ---
-----------------------
VICENZA                  39     0444          320422 SEV 2400-9600


#: 59395 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    22-Aug-96  06:06:19
Sb: #59330-Help Dial in Italy nodes
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: Roger Friedenthal 73137,260

Roger,

Many thanks! Do you know if any of the scripts are compatible with the SEV or
SCI networks? as they seem to be the majority of available connections.

I am going to use the Infonet numbers in Milan and try the few Compuserve
nodes in Rome and Milan.

regards,
Kable via Z-2, Sardinia

#: 59348 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    21-Aug-96  22:18:38
Sb: #59224-#Help Dial in Italy nodes
Fm: Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) 75300,2517
To: Kable Singh 100434,2542 (X)

Hello Kable,

I hope that you are enjoying your vacation.

I would try in the CCZ, to enter ATX3 in the init string, then set the phone
to pulse dialing using the setup page.

Also to send a message to ALL you enter ALL as the name not the id.  You don't
have to enter any id.

  Bo

(via SHARP Zaurus ZR-5800FX)

#: 59385 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    22-Aug-96  05:46:20
Sb: #59348-#Help Dial in Italy nodes
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) 75300,2517 (X)

Bo,

I am certainly enjoying the vacation. I have tried  the ATX3 in the
initialization string instead of the Tel Number and unfortunately that gives
no better results. It is certainly more logical however.

I am still having great difficulty in making and  maintaining a connection but
think it is a problem with the domestic phone system.

Hopefully calls within Italy will give a clearer line than I am getting to the
Uk.

I thought I did use just ALL in the Name  to start with but perhaps I put a
space or something in Id.

All I need now is the number for Rome or Milan which may be in one of the
other replies.

Yes ......I have just seen the list from Roger.

regards,
Kable via Z-2, Sardinia


#: 59216 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    21-Aug-96  04:40:16
Sb: #58750-Clip board Link
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: eric seah 75363,2625

Eric,
I have not had complete success here in Sardinia but this message is coming to
you from Sardinia although I have  had to dial into Reading UK to get messages
and send my replies.

The system in this house is pulse dialling (Compuserve doesn't care whether it
is pulse or tone). In order to dial out I have had to use ATX3DP as a prefix
in the Tel No field - it will not work in the Modem Initialization field! nor
if I put ATX3DT.
I have not been able to do this with the Sharp Serial Modem CE/FM4 but managed
to do it with the Megahertz 1144. I managed to get the Megahertz to phone out
and then recognize the 'local' number in Cagliari BUT  then I get either
'Unable to connect to Compuserve  Host or 'Modem Connection lost.' I would
like to get hold of the Rome & Milan Compuserve as I didn't acquire them
before I left.

I will put out a separate message to try to get other things that I should
try.

Kable via Z-2, Sardinia

#: 59216 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    21-Aug-96  04:40:16
Sb: #58750-Clip board Link
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: eric seah 75363,2625

Eric,
I have not had complete success here in Sardinia but this message is coming to
you from Sardinia although I have  had to dial into Reading UK to get messages
and send my replies.

The system in this house is pulse dialling (Compuserve doesn't care whether it
is pulse or tone). In order to dial out I have had to use ATX3DP as a prefix
in the Tel No field - it will not work in the Modem Initialization field! nor
if I put ATX3DT.
I have not been able to do this with the Sharp Serial Modem CE/FM4 but managed
to do it with the Megahertz 1144. I managed to get the Megahertz to phone out
and then recognize the 'local' number in Cagliari BUT  then I get either
'Unable to connect to Compuserve  Host or 'Modem Connection lost.' I would
like to get hold of the Rome & Milan Compuserve as I didn't acquire them
before I left.

I will put out a separate message to try to get other things that I should
try.

Kable via Z-2, Sardinia

#: 59187 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    20-Aug-96  23:05:41
Sb: #58786-Clip board Link
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: Charles Newgas 101612,3123

Charles
I got up at 5:30 this morning and could not go back to sleep (so here I am
typing this message) trying to think of the missing element in my attempt to
connect to Compuserve via Cagliari. I tried Terminal mode but got an
unrecognized initial prompt giving the network type.

I fear it may be a 'Mercury' type situation where the Compuserve script may
not work for this reason.

regards,
Kable via Z-2, Sardinia


#: 59387 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    22-Aug-96  05:46:47
Sb: #59231-Clip board Link
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: Jim Christian (Sysop) 74777,2604

Jim,

Sardinia is an island off the west coast of Italy (immediately to the south of
(French) Corsica).

It is Italian but has been under various other countries in the past such as
Spain. Much of it looks very Spanish and the local language sounds more
Spanish than it does Italian.

regards,
Kable via Z-2, Sardinia, Italy

#: 59520 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    22-Aug-96  20:47:45
Sb: #59216-#Clip board Link
Fm: Calvin Wong 100314,1710
To: Kable Singh 100434,2542 (X)

Kable

>>The system in this house is pulse dialling
You should be able to choose pulse dialling from your CCZ script setup screen
(bottom of "Connection" tab).

>>In order to dial out I have had to use ATX3DP as a prefix in the Tel No
field - it will not work in the Modem Initialization field! nor if I put
ATX3DT.  I have not been able to do this with the Sharp Serial Modem CE/FM4<<
You only put ATX3 in the init string.  If you are using terminal mode, then at
the screen you type ATDP.  The combination of the init string and ATDP should
get you through, even with the CE-FM4.

>>BUT  then I get either 'Unable to connect to Compuserve  Host or 'Modem
Connection lost.'
Some of the networks are very difficult to connect...I always try a few times
before I give up.

Calvin

#: 59542 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    22-Aug-96  22:29:27
Sb: #59520-Clip board Link
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: Calvin Wong 100314,1710 (X)

Calvin,

Thanks. I have found that using a prefix of ATX3DP in the Phone field as in
the Init String  (this is on CCZ).

I rarely give up! The inability to connect to the Cagliari number was that it
was not a Compuserve node. I have had some scripts for Terminal use sent to me
for the main Italian Networks and unfortunately neither of those seem to be
available as CCZ pre-scripts.

I will have quite a few suggestions for Scott when I get back or possibly from
here.

regards,
Kable via Z-2, Sardinia, Italy

#: 59529 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    22-Aug-96  21:32:07
Sb: #59440-Clip board Link
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: eric seah 75363,2625 (X)

))CServe is only good in Europe & USA.((

Eric,
Compuserve nodes in Italy are only in Rome and Milan and do not appear to work
with the Z-2 Compuserve script.

I too have only managed to link to the Infonet nodes in Rome and Milan and the
links have been very haphazard.  ($10 per hour extra for Infonet?) At that
rate it may be cheaper to phone Compuserve via the UK. I think that Compuserve
must be getting a percentage of the profits from Infonet?

I am still experimenting and really miss the lack of the new Autopilot
facility promised for CCZ.

regards,
Kable via Z-2, Sardinia, Italy

#: 59560 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    23-Aug-96  01:42:18
Sb: #59440-Clip board Link
Fm: Calvin Wong 100314,1710
To: eric seah 75363,2625 (X)

Eric

>>My girl Joyce told me you called when I called her from Bkk. Do call again
when you visit Singapore.<<

Yeah, pleasant lass.  It was actually quite embarrassing - she kind of
insisted that she should call you on your roaming mobile to let you know, and
I kind of insisted that she will do no such thing.....B-)  I called on the off
chance that you might have changed your schedule.

>>I cannot access from Bkk although CServe in theory have connection thru
Infonet in Bkk.
I used infonet when I am in Singapore....occasionally it has problems
establishing the connection:

* if using the the terminal to dial, I will never get the # sign after
<CR><CR>
* OK if using terminal and manual dial (ie ATDTX,XXXXXX)
* via CCZ, the first attempt upon arrival always fail (don't ask me why)

>>Firstly the speed is only 2400bps & you pay usd10 per hour for Infonet.I
may get 4 free hours per month from CServe but to get 4 hours of CServe I have
to pay usd40 to connect thru Infonet & at 2400bps, downloading will cost a
bomb. Does CServe get a profit from Infonet for using 2400?<<

This is a big problem, at the moment it is acceptable because I only use the
Z1/CE-FM4 to connect, but I can understand the frustration if you are using a
laptop with a 24.4 modem....  Network charges are expensive in Asia.  So the
infonet access in Bkk is only 300-2400? no 9600?

>>I think I may switch to roaming internet services which is now being started
between Hong Kong, China, Japan, USA etc. I am losing my patience with CServe
& their slow Infonet services in Asia. CServe is only good in Europe & USA.<<

CIS still works for me....it's more 'no frills, esp now that I have the CCZ
(and I don't pick up the tab for CIS <g>).

Until next time....
Calvin

#: 59520 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    22-Aug-96  20:47:45
Sb: #59216-#Clip board Link
Fm: Calvin Wong 100314,1710
To: Kable Singh 100434,2542 (X)

Kable

>>The system in this house is pulse dialling
You should be able to choose pulse dialling from your CCZ script setup screen
(bottom of "Connection" tab).

>>In order to dial out I have had to use ATX3DP as a prefix in the Tel No
field - it will not work in the Modem Initialization field! nor if I put
ATX3DT.  I have not been able to do this with the Sharp Serial Modem CE/FM4<<
You only put ATX3 in the init string.  If you are using terminal mode, then at
the screen you type ATDP.  The combination of the init string and ATDP should
get you through, even with the CE-FM4.

>>BUT  then I get either 'Unable to connect to Compuserve  Host or 'Modem
Connection lost.'
Some of the networks are very difficult to connect...I always try a few times
before I give up.

Calvin

#: 59542 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    22-Aug-96  22:29:27
Sb: #59520-Clip board Link
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: Calvin Wong 100314,1710 (X)

Calvin,

Thanks. I have found that using a prefix of ATX3DP in the Phone field as in
the Init String  (this is on CCZ).

I rarely give up! The inability to connect to the Cagliari number was that it
was not a Compuserve node. I have had some scripts for Terminal use sent to me
for the main Italian Networks and unfortunately neither of those seem to be
available as CCZ pre-scripts.

I will have quite a few suggestions for Scott when I get back or possibly from
here.

regards,
Kable via Z-2, Sardinia, Italy

#: 59529 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    22-Aug-96  21:32:07
Sb: #59440-Clip board Link
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: eric seah 75363,2625 (X)

))CServe is only good in Europe & USA.((

Eric,
Compuserve nodes in Italy are only in Rome and Milan and do not appear to work
with the Z-2 Compuserve script.

I too have only managed to link to the Infonet nodes in Rome and Milan and the
links have been very haphazard.  ($10 per hour extra for Infonet?) At that
rate it may be cheaper to phone Compuserve via the UK. I think that Compuserve
must be getting a percentage of the profits from Infonet?

I am still experimenting and really miss the lack of the new Autopilot
facility promised for CCZ.

regards,
Kable via Z-2, Sardinia, Italy

#: 59560 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    23-Aug-96  01:42:18
Sb: #59440-Clip board Link
Fm: Calvin Wong 100314,1710
To: eric seah 75363,2625 (X)

Eric

>>My girl Joyce told me you called when I called her from Bkk. Do call again
when you visit Singapore.<<

Yeah, pleasant lass.  It was actually quite embarrassing - she kind of
insisted that she should call you on your roaming mobile to let you know, and
I kind of insisted that she will do no such thing.....B-)  I called on the off
chance that you might have changed your schedule.

>>I cannot access from Bkk although CServe in theory have connection thru
Infonet in Bkk.
I used infonet when I am in Singapore....occasionally it has problems
establishing the connection:

* if using the the terminal to dial, I will never get the # sign after
<CR><CR>
* OK if using terminal and manual dial (ie ATDTX,XXXXXX)
* via CCZ, the first attempt upon arrival always fail (don't ask me why)

>>Firstly the speed is only 2400bps & you pay usd10 per hour for Infonet.I
may get 4 free hours per month from CServe but to get 4 hours of CServe I have
to pay usd40 to connect thru Infonet & at 2400bps, downloading will cost a
bomb. Does CServe get a profit from Infonet for using 2400?<<

This is a big problem, at the moment it is acceptable because I only use the
Z1/CE-FM4 to connect, but I can understand the frustration if you are using a
laptop with a 24.4 modem....  Network charges are expensive in Asia.  So the
infonet access in Bkk is only 300-2400? no 9600?

>>I think I may switch to roaming internet services which is now being started
between Hong Kong, China, Japan, USA etc. I am losing my patience with CServe
& their slow Infonet services in Asia. CServe is only good in Europe & USA.<<

CIS still works for me....it's more 'no frills, esp now that I have the CCZ
(and I don't pick up the tab for CIS <g>).

Until next time....
Calvin

#: 59531 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    22-Aug-96  21:32:25
Sb: #59395-Help Dial in Italy nodes
Fm: Roger Friedenthal 73137,260
To: Kable Singh 100434,2542 (X)

Kable,

Here are the connect instructions for Scitor, Seva, and Euro-Connect. I
haven't tried to make a script yet.  Good luck!

Roger



SCITOR


COMPUSERVE'S PARTNERSHIP WITH SCITOR INTERNATIONAL TELECOMMUNICATIONS
SERVICES, INC. PROVIDES ASYNCHRONOUS DIAL-UP NETWORK ACCESS WORLDWIDE
AT SPEEDS OF 1200-9600 BPS.


ACCESS INSTRUCTIONS

1. ESTABLISH A PHONE CONNECTION BY DIALING THE NEAREST SCITOR
   NETWORK ACCESS NUMBER WHICH ARE LISTED UNDER THE ACCESS
   NUMBER MENU OPTION.

2. ONCE THE CONNECTION IS MADE, TYPE:

          .<CR>

          I.E. PERIOD FOLLOWED BY A CARRIAGE RETURN

3. YOUR SCREEN WILL SHOW:

          SITA NETWORK: 2431 020

4. YOU TYPE:

          NUI 19730001<CR>

5. YOUR SCREEN SHOWS:

          SITA NETWORK: PASSWORD

6. YOU TYPE:

          KHS9NE<CR>

          (NOTE: THE PASSWORD WILL NOT ECHO TO YOUR SCREEN AS
          YOU ENTER IT)

7. YOUR SCREEN SHOWS:

          SITA NETWORK: NETWORK USER IDENTIFIER 19730001 ACTIVE

8. YOU TYPE:

          2111855<CR>

9. YOU WILL THEN BE CONNECTED TO COMPUSERVE'S NETWORK AND THE
   COMPUSERVE'S HOST NAME: PROMPT WILL APPEAR ON YOUR SCREEN:

          HOST NAME:

   AT THIS POINT, ENTER CIS FOLLOWED BY A CARRIAGE RETURN (<CR>)
   AFTER WHICH YOU WILL SEE THE USER ID PROMPT. ENTER YOUR USER
   ID AND LOG ON AS USUAL.

LOGGING OFF SCITOR'S NETWORK:

1. TYPE OFF AT ANY ! PROMPT ONLINE TO DISCONNECT FROM THE
   SERVICE.  AFTER LOGGING OFF, YOUR SCREEN SHOWS:

          HOST NAME:

2.  YOU TYPE:

          OFF <CR>

   AT WHICH POINT YOU WILL BE DISCONNECTED FROM COMPUSERVE'S
   NETWORK. YOU WILL ALSO AUTOMATICALLY BE DISCONNECTED FROM
   SCITOR'S NETWORK.




                                ITALY-CONNECT

COMPUSERVE'S PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SEVA NETWORK PROVIDES FOR DIAL-UP
NETWORK
ACCESS THROUGHOUT ITALY TO HOSTS ON COMPUSERVE AT SPEEDS UP TO
9600BPS.

LOGON INSTRUCTIONS (ASCII USERS)

1.   ESTABLISH A PHONE CONNECTION BY DIALING THE NEAREST SEVA ACCESS
NUMBER.

2.   YOU TYPE:

          <CR>

3.   ONCE THE CONNECTION HAS BEEN MADE YOUR SCREEN WILL SHOW:

          SEVA LOGIN:

4.   YOU TYPE:

          CSERVE-41<CR>

5.   YOUR SCREEN SHOWS:

          CONNESSO

          HOST NAME:

     WHICH IS COMPUSERVE'S NETWORK PROMPT.  AT THIS POINT, ENTER IS CIS
FOLLOWED
BY A <CR> AFTER
     WHICH YOU WILL SEE THE USER ID PROMPT.  ENTER YOUR USER ID AND LOG ON
AS
USUAL.

LOGGING OFF SEVA:

1.   AFTER TYPING OFF AT ANY ! PROMPT, YOUR SCREEN SHOWS:

          HOST NAME:

2.  YOU TYPE:

          OFF <CR>

AT WHICH POINT YOU WILL BE DISCONNECTED FROM THE COMPUSERVE AND SEVA
NETWORK.




                                EURO-CONNECT
                              INFONET NETWORK

TO ACCESS COMPUSERVE THROUGH THE INFONET NETWORK IN ITALY, FOLLOW THE
INSTRUCTIONS BELOW.  GO RATES TO VIEW CURRENT INFORMATION ON
COMMUNICATION
SURCHARGES.

LOGON INSTRUCTIONS:

  1.  ESTABLISH A PHONE CONNECTION BY DIALING AN INFONET (INF) ACCESS
NUMBER
      LISTED UNDER "LIST ACCESS NUMBERS" FROM THE PREVIOUS MENU.

  2.  ONCE THE CONNECTION HAS BEEN MADE, PRESS ENTER OR CARRIAGE RETURN
<CR>
      SEVERAL TIMES.  FROM THESE, INFONET DETERMINES THE SPEED OF YOUR
      TERMINAL.

  3.  AT THE "#" PROMPT, TYPE THE LETTER C AND PRESS CARRIAGE RETURN.  NOTE
      THAT THE C WILL NOT APPEAR ON YOUR SCREEN.

  4.  YOU WILL SEE "PORT: NN" (WHERE NN IS THE INFONET PORT NUMBER),
FOLLOWED
      BY "CENTER:".  TYPE CSF AND PRESS CARRIAGE RETURN.  THE CSF WILL NOT
      APPEAR ON YOUR SCREEN.

  5.  YOU WILL SEE COMMUNICATION ESTABLISHED FOLLOWED BY THE "USER ID:"
PROMPT.
      ENTER YOUR USER ID NUMBER AND LOG ON AS USUAL.

      EXAMPLE:  CONNECT 2400
                <CR> <CR> <CR>

                # C  <CR>
                PORT:  56
                CENTER: CSF  <CR>
                COMMUNICATION ESTABLISHED

                USER ID:


LOGGING OFF:

  TO LOG OFF FROM THE COMPUSERVE INFORMATION SERVICE, TYPE OFF AT ANY !
  PROMPT ONLINE.

  EX:  ! OFF  <CR>

  OR, IF YOU ARE USING THE INFORMATION MANAGER SOFTWARE, SELECT
"DISCONNECT"
  FROM THE "FILE" PULL-DOWN MENU.

#: 59536 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    22-Aug-96  22:04:19
Sb: #Cellular Modem for $100!
Fm: Roger Friedenthal 73137,260
To: Giuseppe Foderaro 100136,2763 (X)

Giuseppe,

I forgot to ask--do you want cellular capabilities or just land based? If you
do want cellular, do you have GSM or analog in Italy? All the US modems right
now are analog only.

The Motorola modems also need a bulky special cord to connect from the side of
the PCMCIA card to a RJ-11 connector. There is a small inexpensive convertor
that changes from the American RJ-11 to an Italian connector.  I just
purchased one for (I think) $10 six weeks ago for a trip to your beautiful
country. The trouble is that the cord is 6 feet long! I think you would be
better off with a MegaHerz modem that has a small RJ-11 plug that flips out
from the side of the PCMCIA card.

Roger

#: 59645 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    23-Aug-96  13:26:15
Sb: #59474-Help Dial in Italy nodes
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) 75300,2517

Bo,

I am using CCZ. The line ATX3 does work in the Init string along with setting
Pulse dialling but it works just as well by putting the whole thing in the
telephone feld as ATX3DPTelNumber.

Thanks for the information. The reliability of the lines is a problem as I
keep losing connection.

I have now managed to connect to Compuserve Networks in Rome & Milan but it is
uncertain each time and most times fails. I am finding a slightly better hit
rate using the Infonet numbers/Network in Rome & Milan,
.

regards,
Kable via Z-2, Sardinia, Italy

#: 59704 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    24-Aug-96  03:59:23
Sb: #59440-#Clip board Link
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: eric seah 75363,2625 (X)

Eric,

I retract my previous statement that Compuserve accesses in Italy is not good.
The problem I was having was due to a poor mains supply causing interference
with the telephone line.

Compuserve access to the 2 nodes in Rome and Milan is now working perfectly
using the CE/FM4 modem.

regards,
Kable via Z-2, Sardinia, Italy
using CE/FM4 & Compuserve nodes

#: 59772 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    24-Aug-96  22:08:35
Sb: #59740-#Help Dial in Italy nodes
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: Roger Friedenthal 73137,260 (X)

Roger,
I had a go at connecting (using Terminal) to the SEVA system in Cagliari last
night and the screen replies are different to those expected.

I used parity EVEN, Data BIts 7, Stop Bits 1.

on connection I got
CONNECT
I did CR twice and got
SVAGN: to which I typed CSERVE-41 and got

ANS6666NNSS and also on the next line NNSS then

Hotne: to which I replied CIS then I got

UserD: to which I input 100434,2542 then I got

Pwor: to which I input my Password but then I got just a series of the
following rolling off the screen and indented further to the right (approx 20
chars) on each line.  ie 20 chars on line 1 40 on line 2 etc.

SerefatirService:  SStr-A-996
                                      tcre:90-A96 etc

I think I will leave the SEVA attempt there and try SCITOR tonight.

regards,
Kable via Z-2, Sardinia, Italy

#: 59881 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    25-Aug-96  18:27:01
Sb: #59772-Help Dial in Italy nodes
Fm: Roger Friedenthal 73137,260
To: Kable Singh 100434,2542 (X)

Kable,

That is strange. It is almost as though SEVA was on 8-1-0 and not 7-1-even.

Roger

#: 60044 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    26-Aug-96  22:00:33
Sb: #59884-Help Dial in Italy nodes
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: Roger Friedenthal 73137,260

Roger,

I did also try  SEVA at 8-N-0 and the results were no better.

regards
Kable via Z-2, Sardinia, Italy

#: 59673 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    23-Aug-96  18:59:34
Sb: #59645-#Help Dial in Italy nodes
Fm: Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) 75300,2517
To: Kable Singh 100434,2542 (X)

Kable,

If you are having problems with a line kicking you off, it will often help to
lover your baud rate,  I have had a lot of success using 300bps on poor lines.

   Bo

(via SHARP Zaurus ZR-5800FX)

#: 59694 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    23-Aug-96  21:54:43
Sb: #59673-Help Dial in Italy nodes
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) 75300,2517 (X)

Bo,

2400 is now working perfectly and fast enough for me using the CE/FM4.

I have now gone from connecting successfully about 1 time in 10 to 1 to 1.

Kable via Z-2, Sardinia, Italy

#: 59692 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    23-Aug-96  21:34:10
Sb: #59348-#Help Dial in Italy nodes
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) 75300,2517 (X)

Bo,

The mystery about the difficulty in *linking* to and then maintaining a link
once established is solved.

Having tried, and tried, all sorts of combinations of settings, speeds etc. I
have now tried using the Sharp CE/FM4 serial modem *WITHOUT* the external
power supply and all now works very well. I suspect that there are
fluctuations in the supply which disturb the domestic phone system.

Thanks to you and Roger and others we have cracked another barrier worth
bearing in mind for future difficulties of the type that I was experiencing.

The link seems to be faster than the rated 2400 baud of the CE/FM4.

I am now able to link easily to both the Rome and Milan Compuserve nodes.

The new question is whether it is a piece of apparatus linked to the supply or
the mains supply itself that is sending signals affecting the phone line and
thus causing the modem link to get 'protocol error and disconnect.

I will not bore the Forum with the cause if I find it. Awareness of the
situation may help others.

regard,
Kable via Z-2 and Sharp CE/FM4, Sardinia, Italy
using the Compuserve nodes at Rome or Milan.

#: 59747 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    24-Aug-96  13:00:27
Sb: #59705-#SCITOR net for CCZ?
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: R. A. Davis 74022,557 (X)

RAD,

I have exactly the same feeling about how very necessary extra scripts are.
SCITOR is one of   the 2 most popular networks in Italy and there is no CCZ
script for it or the SEVA network. I never realized how frustrating the lack
of a CCZ script can be. Luckily there are two Compuserve nodes in Italy and I
can now use the CCZ Compuserve script successfully.

I got the following information YESTERDAY from Roger Friedenthal and it may be
just what you are looking for:-

I suggest you go for the only Compuserve node first and only resort to
Terminal if absolutely essential.

regards,
Kable via Z-2, Sardinia, Italy

#: 60230 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    27-Aug-96  22:15:01
Sb: #60081-Help Dial in Italy nodes
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: Jim Christian (Sysop) 74777,2604

Jim,

I have tried at 2400 and even lower speeds and it makes no difference.
Tonight I tried to connect from another house using battery power only and at
2400bps. It appeared to get much further and actually connected... but then
it stalled on the message 'Working Please wait, and then disconnected.

Back at my wife's home I have logged into Rome CIS using the Sharp CE/FM4 and
downloaded 21 forum messages, 3 E-Mails and 7 news stories without any
problems.

regards,
Kable via Z-2, Sardinia, Italy

#: 59531 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    22-Aug-96  21:32:25
Sb: #59395-Help Dial in Italy nodes
Fm: Roger Friedenthal 73137,260
To: Kable Singh 100434,2542 (X)

Kable,

Here are the connect instructions for Scitor, Seva, and Euro-Connect. I
haven't tried to make a script yet.  Good luck!

Roger



SCITOR


COMPUSERVE'S PARTNERSHIP WITH SCITOR INTERNATIONAL TELECOMMUNICATIONS
SERVICES, INC. PROVIDES ASYNCHRONOUS DIAL-UP NETWORK ACCESS WORLDWIDE
AT SPEEDS OF 1200-9600 BPS.


ACCESS INSTRUCTIONS

1. ESTABLISH A PHONE CONNECTION BY DIALING THE NEAREST SCITOR
   NETWORK ACCESS NUMBER WHICH ARE LISTED UNDER THE ACCESS
   NUMBER MENU OPTION.

2. ONCE THE CONNECTION IS MADE, TYPE:

          .<CR>

          I.E. PERIOD FOLLOWED BY A CARRIAGE RETURN

3. YOUR SCREEN WILL SHOW:

          SITA NETWORK: 2431 020

4. YOU TYPE:

          NUI 19730001<CR>

5. YOUR SCREEN SHOWS:

          SITA NETWORK: PASSWORD

6. YOU TYPE:

          KHS9NE<CR>

          (NOTE: THE PASSWORD WILL NOT ECHO TO YOUR SCREEN AS
          YOU ENTER IT)

7. YOUR SCREEN SHOWS:

          SITA NETWORK: NETWORK USER IDENTIFIER 19730001 ACTIVE

8. YOU TYPE:

          2111855<CR>

9. YOU WILL THEN BE CONNECTED TO COMPUSERVE'S NETWORK AND THE
   COMPUSERVE'S HOST NAME: PROMPT WILL APPEAR ON YOUR SCREEN:

          HOST NAME:

   AT THIS POINT, ENTER CIS FOLLOWED BY A CARRIAGE RETURN (<CR>)
   AFTER WHICH YOU WILL SEE THE USER ID PROMPT. ENTER YOUR USER
   ID AND LOG ON AS USUAL.

LOGGING OFF SCITOR'S NETWORK:

1. TYPE OFF AT ANY ! PROMPT ONLINE TO DISCONNECT FROM THE
   SERVICE.  AFTER LOGGING OFF, YOUR SCREEN SHOWS:

          HOST NAME:

2.  YOU TYPE:

          OFF <CR>

   AT WHICH POINT YOU WILL BE DISCONNECTED FROM COMPUSERVE'S
   NETWORK. YOU WILL ALSO AUTOMATICALLY BE DISCONNECTED FROM
   SCITOR'S NETWORK.




                                ITALY-CONNECT

COMPUSERVE'S PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SEVA NETWORK PROVIDES FOR DIAL-UP
NETWORK
ACCESS THROUGHOUT ITALY TO HOSTS ON COMPUSERVE AT SPEEDS UP TO
9600BPS.

LOGON INSTRUCTIONS (ASCII USERS)

1.   ESTABLISH A PHONE CONNECTION BY DIALING THE NEAREST SEVA ACCESS
NUMBER.

2.   YOU TYPE:

          <CR>

3.   ONCE THE CONNECTION HAS BEEN MADE YOUR SCREEN WILL SHOW:

          SEVA LOGIN:

4.   YOU TYPE:

          CSERVE-41<CR>

5.   YOUR SCREEN SHOWS:

          CONNESSO

          HOST NAME:

     WHICH IS COMPUSERVE'S NETWORK PROMPT.  AT THIS POINT, ENTER IS CIS
FOLLOWED
BY A <CR> AFTER
     WHICH YOU WILL SEE THE USER ID PROMPT.  ENTER YOUR USER ID AND LOG ON
AS
USUAL.

LOGGING OFF SEVA:

1.   AFTER TYPING OFF AT ANY ! PROMPT, YOUR SCREEN SHOWS:

          HOST NAME:

2.  YOU TYPE:

          OFF <CR>

AT WHICH POINT YOU WILL BE DISCONNECTED FROM THE COMPUSERVE AND SEVA
NETWORK.




                                EURO-CONNECT
                              INFONET NETWORK

TO ACCESS COMPUSERVE THROUGH THE INFONET NETWORK IN ITALY, FOLLOW THE
INSTRUCTIONS BELOW.  GO RATES TO VIEW CURRENT INFORMATION ON
COMMUNICATION
SURCHARGES.

LOGON INSTRUCTIONS:

  1.  ESTABLISH A PHONE CONNECTION BY DIALING AN INFONET (INF) ACCESS
NUMBER
      LISTED UNDER "LIST ACCESS NUMBERS" FROM THE PREVIOUS MENU.

  2.  ONCE THE CONNECTION HAS BEEN MADE, PRESS ENTER OR CARRIAGE RETURN
<CR>
      SEVERAL TIMES.  FROM THESE, INFONET DETERMINES THE SPEED OF YOUR
      TERMINAL.

  3.  AT THE "#" PROMPT, TYPE THE LETTER C AND PRESS CARRIAGE RETURN.  NOTE
      THAT THE C WILL NOT APPEAR ON YOUR SCREEN.

  4.  YOU WILL SEE "PORT: NN" (WHERE NN IS THE INFONET PORT NUMBER),
FOLLOWED
      BY "CENTER:".  TYPE CSF AND PRESS CARRIAGE RETURN.  THE CSF WILL NOT
      APPEAR ON YOUR SCREEN.

  5.  YOU WILL SEE COMMUNICATION ESTABLISHED FOLLOWED BY THE "USER ID:"
PROMPT.
      ENTER YOUR USER ID NUMBER AND LOG ON AS USUAL.

      EXAMPLE:  CONNECT 2400
                <CR> <CR> <CR>

                # C  <CR>
                PORT:  56
                CENTER: CSF  <CR>
                COMMUNICATION ESTABLISHED

                USER ID:


LOGGING OFF:

  TO LOG OFF FROM THE COMPUSERVE INFORMATION SERVICE, TYPE OFF AT ANY !
  PROMPT ONLINE.

  EX:  ! OFF  <CR>

  OR, IF YOU ARE USING THE INFORMATION MANAGER SOFTWARE, SELECT
"DISCONNECT"
  FROM THE "FILE" PULL-DOWN MENU.

#: 60368 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    28-Aug-96  19:34:14
Sb: #60266-#Help Dial in Italy nodes
Fm: Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) 75300,2517
To: Kable Singh 100434,2542 (X)

Kable,

It sounds to me like you are having 8N1 instead of 7E1 for some reason, that
would give you those symptoms.... Or of cause, the other way around.

   Bo

(via SHARP Zaurus ZR-5800FX)

#: 60389 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    28-Aug-96  22:59:13
Sb: #60368-Help Dial in Italy nodes
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) 75300,2517 (X)

Bo,

Thanks. I have tried so many combinations and I thought I had checked to make
sure that it was 7E1 but I think that I probably did have *None*, 7, 1 set at
the time.

This morning I tried it again on Terminal after successfully connecting with
the *PC-Card* modem using CCZ after reverting to the use of ATX3DP as a prefix
in the *Telephone* field and with Tone dialling set, as that will *not* work
if Pulse is also selected.

Curiously, this gives a better success rate than putting ATX in the ModemInit
field and selecting 'Pulse'.

That got me logged on and I was able to download several messages and news
stories but then it bombed out.

Then making sure that I was using 7E1 in Terminal mode I managed to get
Terminal talking correctly but that too bombed out after about 3 minutes.

The above was also with the Z working on mains power as I have established
that the results are the same whether using mains or battery power.

I am glad I brought my Sharp modem with me.

When I get home (2 days time) I will try the Psion Dacom Gold V34 modem into
the Rome CIS Node to see whether that suffers in the same.  First, however, I
will try a connection with Megahertz from England to Rome.

regards,
Kable via Z-2, Sardinia, Italy

#: 60606 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    30-Aug-96  11:22:34
Sb: #60570-#Zaurus and Cserve
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: John Glover 100620,250 (X)

John,

I live in Winchester and am just visiting on holiday at my in-laws here in
Sardinia. Back to England tomorrow and probably somewhat cooler weather (g).

I never got the logon to work with the *ZAURUS attached and I think it was to
do with the TERM DEF not being done fully from my PC. I now generally only use
the CCZ software and am happy with the results in Terminal mode.

regards,
Kable via Z-2, Sardinia, Italy 

#: 60811 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    01-Sep-96  14:21:11
Sb: #59692-#Help Dial in Italy nodes
Fm: Jim Zurer 71072,624
To: Kable Singh 100434,2542 (X)

Glad you figured out your problem.

As we discussed last year, I had no problem connecting in Italy last year with
my Wizard 9520 and the side car modem, once I figured out where to put the X3
in the string--before DT or DP.  But I was using batteries, so I don't know if
the power would have any effect....

I look forward to a report on your return, since I hope to use my Zaurus 5800
and CCZ in Italy next year.

Are you still in Sardinia?  There are two articles on Sardinia in today's New
York Times Travel section by my friend Maureen Fant from the Italian Forum. If
you are interested in the restaurant information, I can send it to you. She is
quite reliable in these matters.

Jim Zurer - Washington, DC

#: 60815 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    01-Sep-96  14:42:52
Sb: #60811-Help Dial in Italy nodes
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: Jim Zurer 71072,624 (X)

Jim,

I am now back in Winchester. Should have been back last night but there was a
very unusual delay of 14 hours and I didn't get back until this morning.

I have tested the Megahertz 1144 here in Winchester and it connected first
time to the new local UK number.

I then set it to dial and connect to the CIS node in Rome from here and it did
that perfectly.

So it is not the modem, and it doesn't appear to be an insurmountable problem
related to the mains-power since the Sharp CE/FEM4 worked perfectly on
mains-power. It seems that the 1144 was particularly sensitive to some
extraneous signals on the telephone line which the Sharp modem was able to
handle. I got the same result in 2 separate houses in the village where I
stayed.

I will not be able to test the Psion Gold modem (PC-Card 28.8k v34) until next
year as I did not take it with me. That might show if it is a particular
sensitivity of the Megahertz 1144 or a more general sensitivity of C-Card
modems.

Thanks for the offer of the restaurant information which I would be interested
in.

regards,
Kable (Winchester UK)



#: 59531 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    22-Aug-96  21:32:25
Sb: #59395-Help Dial in Italy nodes
Fm: Roger Friedenthal 73137,260
To: Kable Singh 100434,2542 (X)

Kable,

Here are the connect instructions for Scitor, Seva, and Euro-Connect. I
haven't tried to make a script yet.  Good luck!

Roger

#: 62084 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    10-Sep-96  11:29:37
Sb: #62005-MODEM TONE IN ITALY
Fm: Kable Singh 100434,2542
To: Bernie Niguidula 103305,271

Bernie,

Put the following 3 characters in the Modem Initialization box

ATX

This will tell the Zaurus to ignore the Italian dial-tone and to start
dialing.

regards,
Kable (Winchester UK)


