#: 63106 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    18-Sep-96  08:18:47
Sb: #Access to other email
Fm: LENBROOK IND. 102005,1103
To: Sysop (X)

I am a new user of the Zaurus 5800 and was wondering if anyone knows how to
get access to another type of Email or Internet provider if I am not using
Compuserve or AT&T Mail.

Thanks in advance,

Monique 

#: 63124 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    18-Sep-96  12:22:31
Sb: #63106-#Access to other email
Fm: Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) 75300,2517
To: LENBROOK IND. 102005,1103 (X)

Hello Moniqe

You can access the internet via LYNX and PINE on your ISP.  There is several
files in the library descriping how to do that.

Even better is that RUPP @ 800-844-7775 currently is working on a POP3 client,
which will let you access your internet e-mail from your Zaurus.

BTW. We are having a Zaurus Conference this Sunday at 3pm Eastern / Noon
Western / 9pm Europe.  It is about developing samll applications for the
Zaurus, using the PILI SDK which you can find as freeware in the library.

   Bo

(via SHARP Zaurus ZR-5800FX)

#: 63128 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    18-Sep-96  13:23:26
Sb: #63124-Access to other email
Fm: LENBROOK IND. 102005,1103
To: Bo Lorentzen (Sysop) 75300,2517 (X)

Hello Moniqe

You can access the internet via LYNX and PINE on your ISP.  There is several
files in the library descriping how to do that.

Even better is that RUPP @ 800-844-7775 currently is working on a POP3 client,
which will let you access your internet e-mail from your Zaurus.

BTW. We are having a Zaurus Conference this Sunday at 3pm Eastern / Noon
Western / 9pm Europe.  It is about developing samll applications for the
Zaurus, using the PILI SDK which you can find as freeware in the library.

   Bo

(via SHARP Zaurus ZR-5800FX)

Hello Bo,

Thanks so much for your message.  I will try your suggestions and give you a
call if I have any problems.  While I've got your attention,  I was trying to
send a page to someone that has a 'direct dial page' that goes directly to an
answering service.  He has informed me that he doesn't use a PIN number.  Any
suggestions on how I can make this work?

Thanks again!

Monique Downes
Lenbrook Industries
Toronto,ON.

#: 63196 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    19-Sep-96  02:24:11
Sb: #63106-#Access to other email
Fm: Jon Freivald 104650,2666
To: LENBROOK IND. 102005,1103

I am a new user of the Zaurus 5800 and was wondering if anyone knows how to
get access to another type of Email or Internet provider if I am not using
Compuserve or AT&T Mail.
---
Monique,

You can get a shell account (shell is important - not SLIP or PPP, so this
rules out a lot of the big players like Netcom & Earthlink), log in using the
terminal mode, and rhen read mail using pine, elm, or (ugh!) plain old UNIX
mail...

Jon
>>Via Sharp Zaurus ZR-5800FX<<

#: 63293 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    19-Sep-96  22:22:59
Sb: #63196-#Access to other email
Fm: Henry Phan 74352,2451
To: Jon Freivald 104650,2666 (X)

Dear Jon:

Sorry to interup...

I have both CompuServe and Juno e-mail.  I like Compuserve, but it costs $,
whereas, Juno e-mail is free.  How do I go about sending and receiving e-mail
on Juno.  BTW, what is a shell account?

Regards,

Henry

#: 63294 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    19-Sep-96  22:34:42
Sb: #63293-#Access to other email
Fm: Robert Burke 74517,321
To: Henry Phan 74352,2451

Henry,

   PMFJI, but how do you get on Juno?  I am very interested to see if they
support shell accounts.  (Text based browsing.)

Thanks,
   - Rob -

#: 63322 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    20-Sep-96  06:05:15
Sb: #63294-Access to other email
Fm: Ann Harrell 76161,55
To: Robert Burke 74517,321


>>   PMFJI, but how do you get on Juno?  I am very interested to
>>see if they support shell accounts.  (Text based browsing.)

Robert...when I got on Juno I asked about being able to use it with my Zaurus
and they at that time said no way. If you want to give it a try, email me your
address and I'll send you a disk. Or I suppose it is downloadable <great word,
huh?> from somewhere. Here is the email address for Juno:

charlesa@juno.com

Charles Ardai is the presidents name. I'm sure it has a web page also.

Ann Harrell
76161.55@compuserve.com
annharell@aol.com
annh@juno.com
7:59 AM, 9/20/96

#: 63323 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    20-Sep-96  06:08:13
Sb: #63294-Access to other email
Fm: Jon Freivald 104650,2666
To: Robert Burke 74517,321

<<Henry,

   PMFJI, but how do you get on Juno?  I am very interested to see if they
support shell accounts.  (Text based browsing.)>>

Juno *ONLY* supports e-mail - period.

Jon
>>Via Sharp Zaurus ZR-5800FX<<

#: 63324 S9/Sharp Zaurus
    20-Sep-96  06:08:34
Sb: #63293-Access to other email
Fm: Jon Freivald 104650,2666
To: Henry Phan 74352,2451

<<Dear Jon:

Sorry to interup...>>

Don't worry about it -- this is part of what keeps these conversations
interesting -- everybody jumping in and adding  twists and turns... :)

<<I have both CompuServe and Juno e-mail.  I like Compuserve, but it costs $,
whereas, Juno e-mail is free.  How do I go about sending and receiving e-mail
on Juno.  BTW, what is a shell account?>>

Unfortunately, you will never be able to access Juno from your Z.  Their basic
tennant is that they provide you with the free e-mail service, and they
subsidize the service with the advertising that is constantly being presented
to you via their software interface.  (Remember the demographic survey you
filled out when you signed up?  Being able to properly target the ads makes
the services they are selling more valuable...)  If you read that dissertation
of a license agreement when you signed up, you might remember that they
specifically prohibit accessing Juno with any means other than the specific
software they provide.  (How can they force you to see the ads if they don't
control the interface?)

Now, you can send mail -to- and receive mail -from- a Juno account via CI$ on
your Z.  Your Internet address is 104650.2666@compuserve.com (note that the
comma changes to a period).  To address to me on Juno, you would use the
address internet:jafreivald@juno.com.  We would not be able to sent file
attachments back and forth (a CI$ limitation!), but could e-mail just fine...

OK, a shell account...  Do you have a PC? (Well, you have Juno, so obviously
yoiu do..!  Unless they finally got the Mac version of their software done...)
When you are sitting at that infamous C:\> prompt, you are in your "shell".  A
shell account from an ISP is basically nothing more than a login on their
machine that you dial into.  You can use just about any comm software
(including the Z's terminal mode) to dial in.  Everything runs in character
mode, and on the host system (the machine you actually called and logged
into).  The UNIX shell prompt (usually $ or %, depending on which shell you
are using) is roughly analogous to the DOS C>...  From there, you can run any
text mode program that the system administrator has made available.  Some of
the more common ones are pine or elm for mail and lynx for web browsing.

Advantages of a shell account?  SPEED!  You are usually working on some type
of high speed workstation with a high bandwidth connection to the Internet --
the only thing going back and forth accross your (relatively) slow modem are
your keystrokes and screen paints.  Shell accounts are typically cheaper than
a SLIP or PPP account (the average of the services around here that I'm
familiar with is $30/mo for SLIP/PPP and $15/mo for shell).

Disadvantages of a shell account?  Everything is command-line driven.  If you
aren't familiar with UNIX, you will have a learning curve to do much of
anything.  Anything you retrieve from the net is now on that host system -
there are additional steps you must take to get the information (or files, or
whatever)to your own machine - it's simple, but it's an additional step...
-Some- ISPs offer a menu system for beginners to use.  Another big
disadvantage is that there are many ISPs that don't even offer shell accounts
-- notable examples are Netcom and EarthNet (a couple of the bigger ones with
local access numbers nationwide...).  Another disadvantage is that, being text
mode only, you won't get any graphics while out surfing the web.

I hope this answers your questions.  If you have more, feel free to fire
away...

Jon
>>Via Sharp Zaurus ZR-5800FX<<

