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Conversations with God

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Life is a creation, not a discovery.

You do not live each day to discover what it holds for you, but to create it. You are creating your reality every minute, probably without knowing it.

Here's why that is so and how that works.

1. I have created you in the image and likeness of God

2. God is the creator.

3. You are three beings in one. You can call these three aspects of being anything you want. Father, Son and Holy Ghost; mind, body and spirit; superconscious, conscious, subconscious.

4. Creation is a process which proceeds from these three parts of your body. Put another way, you create at three levels. The tools of creation are: thought, word, and deed.

5. All creation begins with thought ("Proceeds from the Father"). All creation then moves to word ("Ask and you shall receive, speak and it shall be done unto you"). All creation is fulfilled in deed ("And the word was made flesh, and dwelt amongst us")

6. That which you think of, but thereafter never speak of, creates at one level. That which you thinkof and speak of creates at another level. That which you think, speak and do becomes manifest in your reality.

7. To think, speak and do something which you do not truly believe is impossible. Therefore the process of creation must include belief, or knowing. This is absolute faith. This is beyond hoping. This is knowing of a certainty ("By your faith shall ye be healed") Therefore the doing part of creation always includes knowing. It is a gut-level clarity; a complete acceptance as reality of something.

8. This place of knowing is a place of intense and incredible gratitude. It is a thankfulness in advance. And that perhaps is the biggest key to creation: to be grateful before, and for, the creation. Such taking for granted is not only condoned but encouraged. It is the sure sign of Mastery. All Masters know in advance the deed has been done.

9. Celebrate and enjoy all that you create, have created. To reject any part of it is to reject part of yourself. Whatever it is that is now presenting itself as part of your creation, own it, claim it, bless it, be thankful for it. Seek not to condemn it ("God damn it"), for to condemn it is to condemn yourself.

10. If there is some aspect of creation you find you do not enjoy, bless it and simply change it. Choose again. Call forth a new reality. Think a new thought. Say a new word. Do a new thing. Do this magnificently and the rest of the world will follow you. Ask it to. Call for it to. Say, "I am the Life and the Way, follow me."

This is how to manifest God's Will "on earth as it is in Heaven".

Neale: If it is all as simple as that, if these ten steps are all we need, why does it not work that way for more of us?

It does work that way, for all of you. Some of you are using the "system" consciously, with full awareness, and some of you are using it subconsciously, without even knowing what you are doing.

Some of you are walking in wakefullness and some of you are sleepwalking. Yet all of you are creating your reality - creating, not discovering - using the power I have given you, and the process I've just described.


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Let's start here. The soul - your soul - knows all there is to know all the time. There's nothing hidden to it, nothing unknown. Yet knowing is not enough. The soul seeks to experience.

You can know yourself to be generous, but unless you do something which displays generosity, you have nothing but a concept. You can know yourself to be kind, but unless you do someone a kindness, you have nothing but an idea about yourself.

It is your soul's desire to turn its grandest concept about itself into its greatest experience. Until concept becomes experience, all there is is speculation. I have been speculating about Myself for a long time. Longer than you and I could collectively remember. Longer than the age of ths universe times the age of the universe. You see, then, how young is - how young is - My experience of Myself.

Neale: You've lost me again. Your experience of Yourself?

Yes, let me explain it to you this way:

In the beginning, that which Is is all there was, and there was nothing else. Yet All That Is could not know itself, because All That Is is all there was, and there was nothing else. And so, All That Is ... was not. For, in the absence of something else, All That Is, is not.

This is the great Is/Is Not to which mystics have referred from the beggining of time.

Now All That Is knew it was all there was - but this was not enough, for it could only know its utter magnificence conceptually, not experientially. Yet the experience of itself is that for which it longed, for it wanted to know what it felt like to be so magnificent. Stiil this was impossible, for the very term "magnificent" is a relative term. All That Is could not know what it felt like to be magnificent unless that which is not showed up. In the absence of th at which is not, that which IS, is not.

Do you understand?

Neale: I think so. Keep going.

Alright. the one thing that All That Is knew is that there was nothing else. And so it coul, and never would know itself from a reference point outside of Itself. Such a point did not exist. Only one reference point existed, and that was the single place within. The "Is-Not Is." The Am-Not Am.

Still the All of Everything chose to know itself experientially.

This energy - this pure, unseen, unheard, unobserved, and therefore unknown-by-anyone-else energy - chose to experience Itself as the utter magnificence It was. In order to do this, It realised It would have to use a reference point within.

It reasoned, quite correctly, that any portion of Itself would necessarily have to be less than the whole and if It thus simply divided Itself into portions, each portion, being less than the whole, could look back on the rest of Itself and see magnificence.

And so All That Is divided Itself - becoming, in one glorious moment, that which is this, and that which is that. For the firt time, this and that existed, quite apart from each other. And still, both existed simultaneously. As did all that was neither.

Thus, three elements suddenly existed: that which is here. That which is there. And that which is neither here nor there - but which must exist for here and there to exist.

It is the nothing which holds the everything. It is the non-space which holds the space. It is the all which holds the parts.

Can you understand this?

Are you following this?

Neale: I think I am, actually. Believe it or not, you have used such a clear illustration that I think I am actually understanding this.

I'm going to go further.

Now this nothing which holds the everything is what some people call God. Yet, that is not accurate, either, for it suggests that there is something which God is not - namely, everything that is not "nothing". But I am All Things - seen and unseen - so this description of Me as the Great Unseeen - the No-Thing or the Space Between, an essentially Eastern mystical definition of God, is no more accurate than the essentially Western practical description of God as all that is seen. Those who believe that God is All That Is and All That Is Not are those whose understanding is correct.

Now in creating that which is "here" and that which is "there", God made it possible for God to know Itself. In the moment of this great explosion from within, God created relativity - the greatest gift God ever gave to Itself. Thus relationship is the greatest gift God ever gave to you, a point to be discussed in detail later.

From the No-Thing thus sprang the Everything - a spiritual event entirely consistent, incidentally, with what your scientists call The Big Bang Theory.

As the elements of all raced forth, time was created, for a thing was first here, then it was there- and the period it took to get from here to there was measurable.

God knew that for love to exist - and to know itself as pure love - its exact opposite had to exist as well. So God voluntarily created the great polarity - the absolute opposite of love - everything that love is not - what is now called fear. In the moment fear existed, love could exist as a thing that could be experienced.

It is this creation of duality between love and its opposite which humans refer to in their various mythologies as the birth of evil, the fall of Adam, the rebellion of Satan and so forth.


Update September 30, 2000 -

I happened to look up the word 'celebrate' in the index of Conversations With God ... here is what i found on Page 208 -

The moral codes, religious constrictions, social taboos and emotional conventions you have placed around sex (and, by the way, around love - and all of life) have made it virtually impossible for you to celebrate your being.

From the beginning of time all man has ever wanted is to love and be loved. And from the beginning of time man has done everything in his power to make it imopossible to do that. Sex is an extraordinary expression of love - love of another, love of Self, love of life. You ought to therefore love it! (And you do - you just can't tell anyone you do; you don't dare show how much you love it or you'll be called a pervert. Yet this is the idea that is perverted.)

In our next book, we shall look at sex much more closely; explore its dynamics in greater detail, for this is an experience and an issue of sweeping implications on a global scale.

For now - and for you, personally - simply know this: I have given you nothing shameful, least of all your very body and its functions. There is no need to hide your body or its functions - nor your love of them, and of each other.

Your television programs think nothing of showing naked violence but shrink from showing naked love. Your whole society reflects that priority.

12. Is there life on other planets? Have we been visited by it? Are we being observed now? Will we see evidence - irrevocable and indisputable - of extraterrestrial life in our lifetime? Does each form of life have its own God? Are you the God of it all?

Yes to the first part. Yes to the second. Yes to the third. I cannot answer the fourth part, since that would require me to predict the future - something I am not going to do

We will however talk a great deal more about this thing called the future in Book Two - and we'll talk about extraterrestrial life and the nature(s) of God in Book Three.

Omigosh! There's going to be a Book Three?

Let me outline the plan here.

Book One is to contain basic truths, primary understandings, and address personal matters and issues.

Book Two is to contain more far-reaching truths, grander understandings and address global matters and issues.

Book Three is to contain the largest truths you are now capable of understanding and address universal matters and issues - matters being dealt with by all the beings of the universe.

I can't wait to read Books Two & Three ... :)

Here's to CELEBRATING our being!


Update October 31, 2000 -

I looked up 'death' in the index - no, I'm not feeling morbid :) - actually the Buddhists meditate on death daily as it could come anyday without warning and they believe your state of mind at the moment of death greatly influences you path in the realms you enter by dying ... but anyway, here is an excerpt from page 183 of Book I -

There is an Eastern mystical teaching surrounding a doctrine called Karma Loca - according to this teaching, at the time of our death each person is given the opportunity to relive every thought ever entertained, every word ever spoken, every action ever taken, not from our standpoint, but from the standpoint of every other person affected. In other words, we've already experienced what we felt thinking, saying and doing what we did - now we're given the experience of feeling what the other person felt in each of these moments - and it is by this measure that we'll decide whether we'll think, say or do those things again. Any comment?

What occurs in your life after this is far too extraordinary to describe in terms you could comprehend - becuase the experience is other-dimensional and literally defies description using tools as severely limited as words. It is enough to say that you will have the opportunity to review again this, your present life, without pain or fear or judgement, for the prpose of deciding how you feel about your experience here, and where you want to go from there.

Many of you will decide to come back here; to return to this world of density and relativity for another chance to experience out the decisions and choices you made about your Self at this level.

Others of you - a select few - will return with a different mission. You will return to density and matter for the soul purpose of bringing others out of density and matter. Always there are on Earth those among you who have made such a choice. You can tell them apart at once. Their work is finished. They have returned to Earth simply and merely to help others. This is their joy. This is their exaltation. They seek naught but to be of service.

You cannot miss these people. They are everywhere. There are more of them than you think. Chances are you know one, or know of one.

Am I one?

No. If you have to ask, you know you are not one. One such as this asks questions of no one. There is nothing to ask.

You, My son, in this lifetime, are a messenger. A bringer of news; a seeker and frequently a speaker of Truth. That is enough for one lifetime. Be happy.

Oh, I am. But I can always hope for more!

Yes! And you will! Always you will hope for more. It is in your nature. It is divine nature to seek always to be more.

So seek, yes, by all means seek.

...

So, I plugged 'Karma Loca' into a search engine and didn't find a lot apart from this link -

Truthseekers

Though I do have some interesting links to the Tibetan Book Of The Dead somewhere ...


Worry is just about the worst form of mental activity there is - next to hate, which is deeplt self destructive. Worry is pointless. It is wasted mental energy. It also creates bio-chemical reactions which harm the body, producing everything from indigestion to coronary arrest, and a multitude of things in between

Health will improve almost at once when worrying ends.

Worry is the activity of a mind which does not understand its connection with Me.

Hatred is the most severely damaging mental condition. it poisons the body. Its effects are virtually irreversible.

Fear is the opposite of everything you are and so has an effect of opposition to you mental and physical heallth. fear is worry magnified.

Worry, hate fear - together with their offshoots: anxiety, bitterness, impatience, avarice, unkindness, judgementalness and condemnation - all attack the body at a cellular level. It is impossible to have a healthy body under these conditions.

ALL illness is first created in the mind.

... Nothing occurs in your life - nothing - which is not first a thought. Thoughts are like magnets, drawing effects to you. The thought may not always be obvious, and thus clearly causative, as in, "I'm going to contract a terrible disease". The thought may be (and usually is) more subtlethan that. ("I am not worthy to live") ("My life is always a mess") ("I am a loser") ("I am sick and tired of my life!")

Thoughts are a very subtle but extremely powerful form of energy ... Healers have just such fait. they KNOW that you are meant to be whole, complete and perfect in this moment now.

... You mean we were - are - never supposed to die?

You never do die. Life is eternal. You are immortal. You never do die. You simply change form. You didn't even have to do that. YOU decided to do that, I didn't. I made you bodies that would last forever. Do you really think the best God could do, the best I could come up with, was a body that could make it 60, 70, maybe 80 years before falling apart? Is that, do you imagine, the limit of my ability?

I never thought of putting it that way, exactly ...

What happens in your life is far too extraordinary to describe here in terms you could comprehend - because the experience is other-dimensional and literallyy defies description using tools as severely limited as words. it is enough to say that you will have the opportunity to review again this, your present life, without pain or fear of judgement, for the purpose of deciding how you feel about your experience here and where you want to go from there.

Many of you will decide to come back here, to return to this world of density and relativity for another chance to experience out the decisions and choices you make about your Self at this level.

Others of you - a select few - will return with a different mission. You will return to density and matter of the soul purpose of bringing others out of density and matter. Always on Earth there are those among you who have made such a choice. You can tell them apart at once. Their work is finished. They have returned to Earth simply to help others. This is their joy. This is their exaltation. They seek naught but to be of service.

You cannot miss these people. They are everywhere. There are more of them than you think. Chances are you know one or know of one.

Am I one?

No. If you have to ask, you know you are not one. One such as this asks questions of no one. There is nothing to ask. You, My son, in this lifetime are a messenger, a harbinger, a bringer of news. A seeker and frequently a speaker of Truth. that is enough for one lifetime. Be happy.

Oh, I am. But I can always hope for more?

Yes! And you will! Always you will hope for more. it is in your nature. It is a divine nature to seek always to be more.

I will add more soon ... if I don't, just email me!


Now ... a few excerpts from Book II ...

(I opened it at "random" in Library ... to pages 124/125)

Well, let's use our imagination. What are some of the concepts which are important to you in your life?

Neale: Uh ... well, I would say ... honesty, as you have said.

Yes, go ahead. That's a core concept.

Neale: And, um ... fairness. That's an important concept to me.

Good. Any others?

Neale: Treating others nicely. That's one. I don't know how to put that into a concept.

Go on. Just let the thoughts flow.

Neale: Getting along. Being tolerant. Not hurting others. Seeing others as equal. Those are all things I would hope I could teach my children.

Good. Excellent! Keep going.

Neale: Uh ... believing in yourself. That's a good one. And, uh ... wait, wait ... there's one coming. Uh ... yeah, that's it: walking in dignity. I guess I would call it walking in dignity. I don't know how to put that into a better concept, either, but it has to do with the way one carries oneself in one's life, and the way one honours others, and the path others are taking.

This is good stuff. This is all good stuff. You're getting down to it now. And there are many other such concepts which all children must deeply understand if they are to evolve and grow into complete human beings. Yet you do not teach these things in your schools. These are the most important things in life, these things we are now talking of, but you do not teach them in school. You do not teach what it means to be honest. You do not teach what it means to be responsible. You do not teach what it means to be aware of other people's feelings and respectful of other people's paths.

You say it is up to parents to teach these things. Yet parents can only pass on what has been passed on to them. And the sins of the father have been visited upon the son. So you are teaching in your homes the same stuf your parents taught you in their homes.

Neale: So? What's wrong with that?

As I keep saying repeatedly here, taken a look at the world lately?

Neale: You keep bringing us back to that. You keep making us look at that. But all that isn't our fault. We can't be blamed for the way the rest of the world is.

It is not a question of blame, it is a question of choice. And if you are not responsible for the choices humankind have been making, and keeps making, who is?

Neale: Well, we can't make ourselves responsible for all of it!

I tell you this: Until you are willing to take responsibility for all of it, you cannot change ANY of it.

You cannot keep saying they did it and they are doing it, and if only they would get it right! Remember the wonderful line from Walt Kelly's comic strip character, Pogo, and never forget it: "We have met the enemy, and they is us."

Neale: We've been repeating the same mistakes for hundreds of years, haven't we ...

For thousands of years, my son. You've been making the same mistakes for thousands of years. Humankind has not evolved in its most basic instincts much beyond the caveman era. Yet every attempt to change that is met by scorn. Every challenge to look at your values, and maybe even restructure them, is greeted with fear, and then anger. Now along comes an idea from me to actually teach higher concepts in schools. Oh boy, now we're really skating on thin ice.

Still, in highly evolved societies, that is exactly what is done.




{...... may type up more of that section later ... or you could just go out and buy the book. Or you may even find it in a library ...}


Excerpts from pages 158/159 ...

... In other words, the first question when you encounter another in ANY circumstance should always be: What do I want here?

Did you hear that? Your first question, always, must be: What do I want here? NOT What does the other person want here?

Neale: That's the most fascinating insight I have ever received about the way to proceed in human relationships. It also runs against everything I've ever been taught.

I know. But the reason your relationships are in such amess is that you're always trying to figure out what the other person wants and what other people want - instead of what you truly want. Then you have to decide whether to give it to them. And here is how you decide: You decide by taking a look at what you may want from THEM. If there's nothing you think you'll want from them, your first reason for giving them what they want disappears, nad so you seldom do. If, on the otjher hand, you see that there is something you want or may want from them, then your self-survival mode kicks in, and you try to give them what they want.

Then you resent it - especially if the other person doesn't eventually give you what you want.

In this game of "I'll trade you", you set up a very delicate balance. You meet my needs and I'll meet yours.

Yet the purpose of all human relationships - relationships between nations as well as relationships between individuals - has nothing to do with any of this. The purpose of your Holy Relationship with every other person, place, or thing is not to figure out what they want or need, but what YOU require or desire in order to grow, in order to be Who you want to Be.

That is why I created Relationship to other things. If it werent for this, you could have continued to live in a vacuum, a void, the Eternal Allness whence you came.

Yet in the Allness you simply are and cannot experience your "awareness" as anything in particular because in the Allness, there is nothing you are not.

So I devised a way for you to create anew and Know, Who You Are in your experience. I did this by providing you with:
1. Relativity - a system wherein you could exist as a thing in relationship to something else.
2. Forgetfulness - a process by which you willingly submit to total amnesia, so that you cannot know that relativity is merely a trick and that you are All of It.
3. Consciousness - a state of Being in which you grow until you reach full awareness, then becoming a True and Living God, creating and experiencing your own reality, expanding and exploring that reality, changing and re-creating that reality as you stretch your consciousness to new limits - or shall we say. to NO limit.

In this paradigm, Consciousness is everything.

Consciousness - that of which you are truly aware - is the basis of all truth and thus of all true spirituality.

Neale: But what is the point of it all? First you make us forget Who We Are, so that we can remember Who We Are?

Not quite. So that you can CREATE Who You Are and What You Want To Be.

This is the act of God being God. It is Me being Me - through you!

This is the point of all life

Through you, I experience being Who and What I Am.

Without you, I could know it but not experience it. Knowing and experiencing are two different things. I'll choose experiencing every time.

Indeed I do. Through you.

Neale: I seem to have lost the original question here.

Well, it's hard to keep god on one subject. I'm kind of expansive.

Let's see if we can get back. Oh yes, ... what to do about the less fortunate. First, decide Who and What You Are in Relationship to them.

Second, if you decide you wish to experience yourself as being Succor, as being Help, as being Love and Compassion and Caring, then look to see how you can best be those things.

And notice that your ability to be those things has nothing to do with what others are being or doing.

Sometimes the best way to love someone, and the most help you can give, is to leave them alone or empower them to help themselves.

It is like a feast. Life is a smorgasbord and you can give them a big helping of themselves.

Remember that the greatest help you can give a person is to wake them up, to remind them of Who They really Are. There are many ways to do this. Sometimes with a little bit of help; a push, a shove, a nudge ... and sometimes with a decision to let them run their course, follow their path, walk their walk, without any interference form you. (All parents know about this choice and agonize over it daily)

... {a few more "random selections"} ...

And you will not allow your children to know that they are, first and foremost, spiritual beings inhabiting a body. Nor do you treat your children as spirits coming into bodies

...

... this paradigm shift will take great wisdom, great courage, and massive determination. For fear will strike at the heart of these concepts, and call them false. Fear will eat at the core of these magnificent truths, and render them hollow ...

Yet you will not have, cannot produce the society of which you have always dreamed unless and untill you see with wisdom and clarity the ultimate truth: that what you do to others, you do to yourself; what you fail to do for others, you fail to do for yourself; that the pain of others is your pain, and the joy of others your joy, and that when you disclaim any part of it, you disclaim a part of yourself.

Now is the time to reclaim yourself. Now is the time to see yourself again as Who You Really Are and thus, render yourself visible again. For when you, and your true relationship with God, become visible, then We are indivisible.

And nothing will ever divide Us again.

...

You see beauty where you desire to see it. You see ugliness where you are afriad to see beauty.

...

Neale:


{...... Again .... I may type up more of that section later ... or you could just go out and buy the book. Or you may even find it in a library ...}


Special bonus

This quote comes from message # 53,583 of the world-famous Chopra Forum

"Your task is not to seek love, but merely to seek and find all of the barriers within yourself that you have built against it. It is not necessary to seek for what is true, but it is necessary to seek for what is false. Every illusion is one of fear, whatever form it takes. And the attempt to escape from one illusion into another must fail. If you seek love outside yourself you can be certain that you will perceive hatred within, and are afraid of it. Yet peace will never come from the illusion of love, but only from its reality."


Some Links:

Conversations with God

Oct 2009 - some of the followin are now dud links ... hmm ...

Whole lot of reviews & buy the book!

Excellent site with a few quotes

Even more reviews - some real fans - some saying it is THE best book they've ever read :)

Search 4 love turns up a few!

A few searches done in Feb and March or 2005

HUGE forum about the books - each page you visit you get a quote from Neale's books

Interview with Neale

CWG action Australia

A few scans of my copy - more to follow ... maybe ...

A few more scans

More excerpts

Several pages of excerpts - as well as many, many other books

This page also has a variety of excerpts

Excerpt from book 1

Plus some questions & answers

A little search about how our first nature is to be unconditionally loving ...

Interviews with Neale

Transcripts of CWGwithAnna

Most inspirational books of all-time - you may vote for your favourite & CWG rates 2nd to the Bible - summaries & links on all the top books.
Click here to go direct to the cwg summary & reader's experiences - many echo my own experience & thoughts upon encountering this book.

God Channel - has quite an in depth look at the "Conversations with God" books.

This page has an excellent excerpt from Book III ... hard to pick one phrase but try this - 'When I want for you what you want for you, then I truly love you. When I want for you what I want for you, then I am loving Me, through you.' Plus it tells of Neale resisting the whole process! ... and even resenting it ... hmmm ... as in:
I think my greatest fear is that I will prove to be an inadequate, inappropriate "spokesperson" for God, given the seemingly endless series of mistakes and misdeeds which have marked my life and characterized my behavior.

Book Browse

Book Reviews - more than just CWG

Interfaith fellowship

New Vision

Salem Centre

Phenomenews

Convergence Web

Spiritual Growth

Deep Books

One Light, Many Visions

Messages of Hope

The Baltimore Retreat

In Touch Magazine

Another review

Click here for a site with CWG excerpts & HUGE discussion board as well ...

How the Conversations with God books came to be

Update - that link is no longer available ... try clicking here

More excerpts from Neale's books

Conversations with God?

Update - that also has moved - click

some emails around Christmas 2000 from the email study group.

For info on this egroup: click here

Click here for online reading guides for Conversations with God, Books 1, 2 & 3: