For info on this egroup: click here On-line reading guides for Conversations with God, Books 1, 2 & 3: http://www.geocities.com/madamesansnom/WeeklyList.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 3 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. New Years greetings From: "Madame SansNom" <[email protected]> 2. May this collection of quotations serve to inspire you in this New Year. From: "Rev. Dr. Susanne Freeborn" <[email protected]> 3. Re: CWG JavaScript Updated From: "Rev. Dr. Susanne Freeborn" <[email protected]> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 18:53:16 From: "Madame SansNom" <[email protected]> Subject: New Years greetings May you all enjoy a new year filled with love, laughter, healthy, happiness and prosperity. Hugs, Cat _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 00:28:55 -0800 From: "Rev. Dr. Susanne Freeborn" <[email protected]> Subject: May this collection of quotations serve to inspire you in this New Year. A little light in a dark room is still a great illumination "I didn't find my friends, the good God gave them to me." Ralph Waldo Emerson May this collection of quotations serve to inspire you in this New Year... The idea that "Perception has a larger impact on us than reality" is one that we can honor through the contemplation of wisdom from a wide range of spiritual and intellectual traditions. By changing the way that we perceive the life that we are given, we allow ourselves to experience what truly is always there, thus far, unseen and unexperienced. These quotations, which I collected for a class in Effective Speaking beginning January 9th, are some that changed my perception for the better this year and inspired me to be a better person than I was before I encountered them. With Love and Deep Respect, Rev. Dr. Susanne Freeborn Redwood City, California December, 2000 ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Buddha took some Autumn leaves In his hand and asked Ananda if these were all The red leaves there were. Ananda answered that it Was autumn and leaves Were falling all about them, More than could ever be numbered. So Buddha said, "I have given you A handful of truths. Besides These there are many Thousands of other truths, more Than can ever be numbered." From "The City of the Moon" by Kenneth Rexroth ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Quotations from Ernest Holmes I AM, what more can I say? I am, it is enough. Did you ever see the Law that causes a plant to grow? Of course, you did not, and yet you believed in the hidden Law of Growth. Why did you believe? Simply because, every year, out of the seed time comes the harvest. To these souls who have dared to believe, has come a definite answer. Communion with God brings harmony into our lives and affairs; establishes the law of health and prosperity, and makes us a light to all who cross our pathway. God does not compromise. A little light in a dark room is still a great illumination. One of the first things to do, is to love everybody ... with love, all things are possible ... and the one who has learned to love all people will find plenty of people who will return that love. Someone has said that the entire world is suffering from one big fear ... the fear that God will not answer our prayers ... Love alone can overcome fear because Love surrenders itself to the object of its adoration. The soul must make a complete surrender of itself to the Spirit ... The will of the Spirit is peace, clear thinking and happiness, It could have no other will. From The Science of Mind I stand in the midst of eternal opportunity, which forever presents me with the evidence of its full expression. I am joy, peace and happiness. I am the spirit of joy within me. I am the spirit of peace within me, of poise and of power. I am the spirit of happiness within me. I radiate Life; I am Life. There is One Life and that Life is my life now. "Never limit your view of life by any past experience. The possibility of life is inherent within the capacity to imagine what life is, backed by the power to produce this imagery, or Divine Imagination. It is not a question of failing or succeeding. It is simply a question of sticking to an idea until it becomes a tangible reality. The illusion is in the way we look at things. We have looked at poverty, degradation and misery until they have assumed gigantic proportions. Now we must look at harmony, happiness, plenty, prosperity, peace and right action, until they appear." [...] "During the process, many things may happen that appear to be destructive. We may pass through good fortune and bad, but if we can come to the point where we are not disturbed by "things" we have found the secret." [...] "Know your own mind. Train yourself to think what you wish to think; be what you wish to be; feel what you wish to feel, and place no limit on Principles!" We are not down trodden, depraved and miserable sinners, born in sin and conceived in iniquity and shame, some to go to heaven and some to hell and all to the eternal glory of God. This is a lie, it always was and always will be ... Man is born of the Spirit of God Almighty, is pure, holy, perfect, complete and undefiled; is at one with his eternal principle of being ... We live in Spirit awaiting the touch of thought that believes. Let the warmth and color of this Presence permeate your entire consciousness. Let your thought be filled with an atmosphere of helpfulness, of life, of givingness and of peace. Know that the doorway of opportunity is never closed. Know that experiences open up before you like a blossoming flower. Live in continuous, joyous anticipation. It is a great mistake to say: "Take what you wish, for you can have anything you like." We do not take what we wish, but we do attract to ourselves that which is like our thought. MAN MUST BECOME MORE IF HE WISHES TO DRAW A GREATER GOOD INTO HIS LIFE. Spirit never fails. Affirm this until it is a very part of your being... failure is a false thought and has no truth in it. It is a belief in lack and there is no lack From This Thing Called Life Life works by direct affirmation. This is why we are told to be still and know that all things are possible to God. We are told to affirm, positively to assert, to declare this truth in the face of all apparent opposition; to claim abundance in the midst of poverty; to affirm health in the midst of sickness; to decree joy in the midst of sorrow; and to announce the kingdom of God here and now. We must become artists in living. To live by inspiration means to sense the divine touch in everything; to enter into the spirit of things; to enter into the joy of living. The mind is a magnet and we attract that with which we identify the self. In order to get the most out of life we must learn consciously to change many of our habitual thought patterns. If you are filled with fear, refill yourself with faith, for faith always overcomes fear. Faith is the supreme affirmation. It is the unconditioned affirmative. It is the affirmation which makes all things possible to the one who believes in the Power of God. Your thoughts are tools that you use in affirming the creative Power into your experience. Instead of thinking about the problem, turn from it to a recognition that the Life Principle has no problems. Know that the Mind within you already understands the solution to this problem. State definitely that the Mind within you knows what to do. Affirm that you are inwardly guided by the supreme Intelligence of the universe. Affirm that everything you ought to know, you do know. Affirm that you are compelled to make right decisions. Know that there is something within you which will not permit you to make a mistake. Miscellaneous Collected Inspirational Quotations It is never too late to give up our prejudices. -Henry David Thoreau-- Love, compassion, and tolerance are necessities, not luxuries. Without them, humanity cannot survive. If you have a particular faith or religion, that is good. But you can survive without it if you have love, compassion, and tolerance. His Holiness the Dalai Lama, For the Love of God "If you had a different concept of yourself, everything would be different. You are what you are, so everything is as it is. The events which you observe are determined by the concept you have of yourself. If you change your concept of yourself, the events ahead of you in time are altered, but, thus altered, they form a deterministic sequence starting from the moment of this changed concept. You are a being with powers of intervention, which enable you, by a change of consciousness, to alter the course of observed events--in fact, to change your future." Neville "Things don't change, only the way you look at them." Carlos Castaneda "Healing does not mean going back to the way things were before, but rather allowing what is now to move us closer to God." Ram Dass, Still Here : Embracing Aging, Changing, and Dying "Whatever you can do, or dream you can do, begin it. Boldness has genius, power, and magic in it." -Goethe- Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. Mark Twain If all my friends were to jump off a bridge I wouldn't follow, I would be at the bottom ready to catch them when they fell. Author: Unknown "Silence in modesty speaks louder than bold words. The cracker cries aloud, "I am the light," and is extinguished in a moment; the diamond, shining constantly, never says a word about its light." Hazrat Inayat Khan "To be creative means not to be limited by what we've inherited from the past, but to be something new, to be yourself, to affirm something that has never been done in the past." - Pir Vilayat Inayat Khan The purpose of the whole creation is the realization that God Himself gains by discovering His own perfection through His manifestation. The Divine mind becomes completed after manifestation. The creator's mind is made of His own creation. The experience of every soul becomes the experience of the Divine mind. Pir Vilayat Inayat Khan, Unity of Religious Ideals For life means not only to live, but to ennoble oneself and reach that perfection which is the innate yearning of the soul. The solution to the problem of the day is the awakening of the consciousness of humanity to the divinity of man. Hazrat Inayat Khan "What good is knowledge if it doesn't lift you above yourself?" - Rumi "We are not human beings on a spiritual journey. We are spiritual beings on a human journey." Stephen Covey "We do not believe in ourselves until someone reveals that deep inside us is valuable, worth listening to, worthy of our trust, sacred to our touch. Once we believe in ourselves we can risk curiosity, wonder, spontaneous delight or any experience that reveals the human spirit."- e.e. cummings "If you cannot find peace within yourself, you will never find it anywhere else." Marvin Gaye Forgiveness is the economy of the heart...Forgiveness saves the expense of anger, the cost of hatred, the waste of spirits. Hannah More Inward spiritual practices such as meditation, breathing techniques and self-analysis generate insights and enhance abilities, but none are so useful as learning to live harmoniously in a committed relationship, being a skillful parent, or juggling the demands of daily life. Dan Millman "The outer conditions of a person's life will always be found to reflect their inner beliefs." James Allen "Children are likely to live up to what you believe of them." Lady Bird Johnson People travel to wonder at the height of the mountains, at the huge waves of the seas, at the long course of the rivers, at the vast compass of the ocean, at the circular motion of the stars, and yet they pass by themselves without wondering.- St. Augustine "If you want to be successful, it's just this simple. Know what you are doing. Love what you are doing. And believe in what you are doing." -Will Rogers (1879-1935)-- "You can learn from people, and educate others, but the only one you can change is yourself." -Dan D. Limon- "One word frees us of all the weight and pain of life; that word is love." -Sophocles-- "I think we dream so we don't have to be apart so long. If we are in each others dream, we can be together all the time." -Hobbes (Calvin and Hobbes) "Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." -Roger Crawford-- "We have probed the earth, excavated it, burned it, ripped things from it, buried things in it . . . That does not fit my definition of a good tenant. If we were here on a month-to-month basis, we would have been evicted long ago." -Rose Elizabeth Bird-- "A friend is someone who knows all about you and loves you just the same." -Elbert Hubbard- "Success has a great tendency to conceal and throw a veil over the evil deeds of men." -Demosthenes (B.C. 384-322)- "Since you alone are responsible for your thoughts, only you can change them. You will want to change them when you realize that each thought creates according to its own nature. Remember that the law works at all times and that you are always demonstrating according to the kind of thoughts you habitually entertain. Therefore, start now to think only those thoughts that will bring you health and happiness." -Paramahansa Yogananda "You must not let your life run in the ordinary way; do something that nobody else has done, something that will dazzle the world. Show that God's creative principle works in you." Paramahansa Yogananda To welcome whatever arises in this moment is the ultimate spiritual practice. If you practice just this one thing, you won't need to read any more books or learn any other meditation techniques. Welcoming whatever arises in this moment, outside or inside of you, brings freedom. The conditioned mind will tell you not to do this, for it believes that by resisting, it will become free. The opposite is true. By resisting, you become even more stuck. When you no longer believe what the mind is saying, you realize that the quickest way for transformation to happen is to welcome what is. In that moment, life is free to move through you. The conditioned mind is no longer obstructing life. Eckhart Tolle, The Power of Now "All progress has resulted from people who took unpopular positions." -Adlai E. Stevenson (1900-1965)-- "Don't let the good interfere with the better and don't let the better interfere with the best. I am not all I could be, and I am not all that I want to be, but thank God I am not what I used to be. How many times I have thanked God that I am not what I used to be." Rev. Jack Boland "You will find as you look back upon your life that the moments when you have truly lived are the moments when you have done things in the spirit of love." Henry Drummond "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was in me an invicible summer." Albert Camus "Having a son is the greatest accomplishment of my young life, not realizing that sooner has to be, without doubt, my greatest shame." Ron Jon Finley "Humility does not mean you think less of yourself. It means you think of yourself less." Ken Blanchard "I have learned that success is to be measured not so much by the position that one has reached in life as by the obstacles which he has overcome while trying to succeed." Booker T. Washington "I will permit no man to narrow and degrade my soul by making me hate him." Booker T. Washington "Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts." Albert Einstein "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice. It is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved." William Jennings Bryant "How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world." Anne Frank "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." Aristole "If you concentrate on finding whatever is good in every situation, you will discover that your life will suddenly be filled with gratitude, a feeling that nurtures the soul." -Rabbi Harold Kushner- "Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are." -John Wooden- "Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. And today? Today is a gift. That's why we call it the present." -Babatunde Olatunji-- "Seven days without laughter make one weak." -Joel Goodman-- "A truth that's told with bad intent, beats all the lies you can invent." -William Blake (1757-1828) "Purchase not friends by gifts; when thou ceasest to give, such will cease to love." -Thomas Fuller (1608-1661)-- "A sense of humor can help you over look the unattractive, tolerate the unpleasant, cope with the unexpected, and smile through the unbearable." -Moshe Waldoks-- "My policy is to learn from the past, focus on the present, and dream about the future. I'm a firm believer in learning from adversity. Often the worst of times can turn to your advantage - my life is a study of that." -Donald Trump- "The greatest power is often simple patience." -E. Joseph Cossman- "We live in a wonderful world that is full of beauty, charm and adventure. There is no end to the adventures that we can have if only we seek them with our eyes open." -Jawaharlal Nehru- Everything you want is out there waiting for you to ask. Everything you want also wants you. But you have to take action to get it. - Jack Canfield- "Great things are not done by impulse, but by a series of small things brought together." -Vincent Van Gogh (1853-1890)-- "A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." -Walter Bagehot (1826-1977)- "Whatever failures I have known, whatever errors I have committed, whatever follies I have witnessed in private and public life have been the consequence of action without thought." -Bernard M. Baruch(1870-1965)-- "First, arouse in the other person an eager want. He who can do this has the whole world with him. He who cannot walks a lonely way." -Harry A. Overstreet- "If there is any one secret of success, it lies in the ability to get the other person's point of view and see things from that person's angle as well as from your own." -Henry Ford- "I have no right to say or do anything that diminishes a man in his own eyes. What matters is not what I think of him, but what he thinks of himself. Hurting a man in his dignity is a crime." -Antoine de Saint-Exupery- "The only place where your dream becomes impossible is in your own thinking." -Robert H. Schuller- There are two kinds of people, those who do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the first group; there is less competition there. Indira Gandhi "A musician must make music, an artist must paint, a poet must write, if he is to be ultimately at peace with himself." - Abraham Maslow- "You may live in an imperfect world but the frontiers are not closed and the doors are not all shut." -Maxwell Maltz- The sea is dangerous and the storms terrible. But these obstacles have never been sufficient reason to remain ashore...intrepid spirits seek victory over those things that seem impossible...it is with an iron will that they embark on the most daring of all endeavors...to meet the shadowy future without fear and conquer the unknown. Ferdinand Magellan The miracle, or the power, that elevates the few, is to be found in their industry,application, and perseverance under the promptings of a brave, determined spirit. Mark Twain "You and I are not separate. It's just an illusion wrought by the magical lens of perception." -Michael Jackson- "If you want enemies, excel your friends; but if you want friends, let your friends excel you." -Francois LaRochefoucauld (1613-1680)-- "All people have fears, but the brave put down their fears and go forward, sometimes to death, but always to victory." -motto of the King's Guard in ancient Greece- "We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give. Right livelihood is making a life, and finding our true vocation -- not just making a living." Lama Surya Das "Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and these ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance." - Robert F. Kennedy, South Africa; June 6, 1966 "The poorest man would not part with health for money, but the richest would gladly part with all their money for health." -Colton (1780-1832)-- "In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity." -Albert Einstein (1879-1955)-- "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." -Eleanor Roosevelt (1884-1962)-- "Those who have not distinguished themselves at school need not on that account be discouraged. The greatest minds do not necessarily ripen the quickest." -Lubbock (1834-1913)-- "We are no longer happy as soon as we wish to be happier." -Landor (1775-1864)-- "Lying to ourselves is more deeply ingrained than lying to others." -Fyodor Dostoevski (1821-1881)-- "My mother was the most beautiful woman I ever saw. All I am I owe to my mother. I attribute all my success in life to the moral, intellectual and physical education I received from her." -George Washington (1732-1799)-- "Live a balanced life -- learn some and think some and draw and paint and sing and dance and play and work every day some." - Robert Fulghum "People say 'I want peace'. If you remove I {ego}, and your want {desire}, you are left with peace." -Satya Sai Baba- "The first thing I do in the morning is to make my bed and while I am making up my bed I am making up my mind as to what kind of a day I am going to have." -Robert Frost (1874-1963)-- "There is great beauty in going through life without anxiety or fear. Half our fears are baseless, and the other half discreditable." -Bovee (1820-1904)-- "To accuse others for one's misfortunes is a sign of want of education. To accuse oneself shows that one's education has begun. To accuse neither oneself nor others shows one's education is complete." -Epictetus- "The less you open your heart to others, the more your heart suffers." -Deepak Chopra- "The sole meaning of life is to serve humanity." -Leo Tolstoy- "They may forget what you said, but they will never forget how you made them feel." -Carl W. Buechner- "Most of us are in touch with our intuition whether we know it or not, but we're usually in the habit of doubting or contradicting it so automatically that we don't even know it has spoken. The first step is to pay more attention to what you feel inside, to the inner dialogue that goes on within you." Shakti Gawain, Living in the Light "Gratitude helps you to grow and expand; gratitude brings joy and laughter into your life and into the lives of all those around you." - Eileen Cady Gratitude is one of the sweet shortcuts to finding peace of mind and happiness inside. No matter what's going on outside of us, there's always something we could be grateful for. - Barry Neil Kaufman Something wonderful is happening to me right now. It is this thing called life. Life is in my mind. Life is in my body. Life is in my affairs. I receive it-I share it-I am it and I accept it. Just the way that it is and just the way that it is not. Thank you, life. Amen. - Rev. Peggy Bassett "He who lives by fighting with an enemy has an interest in the preservation of the enemy's life." -Friedrich Nietzsche- "Miracles are not contrary to nature; only to what we know about nature." -St. Augustine- "The only thing worse than suffering an injustice is committing an injustice." -Plato (B.C. 427?-347?)-- "It is an eternal obligation toward the human being not to let him suffer from hunger when one has a chance of coming to his assistance." -Simone Weil (1910-1943)-- "People who treat other people as less than human must not be surprised when the bread they have cast on the waters comes floating back to them, poisoned." -James Baldwin (1924-1987)-- "You've no idea what a poor opinion I have of myself - and how little I deserve it." -William Gilbert (1836-1911)-- "There's always a rainbow at the end of every rain." -Prince (1958-1993)-- "Forgiveness is the fragrance the violet sheds on the heel that has crushed it." -Mark Twain (1835-1910)-- "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness - all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance or broad, wholesome charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." -Mark Twain (1835-1910)-- "All human wisdom is summed up in two words - wait and hope." -Alexandre Dumas (1802-1870)-- "As long as you keep a person down, some part of you has to be down there to hold him down, so it means you cannot soar as you otherwise might."-Marian Anderson- "To avoid criticism, do nothing, say nothing, be nothing." -Elbert Hubbard (1859-1915)-- "Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude." -Thomas Jefferson- "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." -Delores Ibarruri (1895-1989)-- "Catch on fire with enthusiasm and people will come for miles to watch you burn." -John Wesley (1703-1791)-- "Beauty of whatever kind, in its supreme development, invariably excites the sensitive soul to tears." -Edgar Allan Poe (1809-1845)-- "Homosexuality is assuredly no advantage, but it is nothing to be ashamed of, no vice, no degradation; it cannot be classified as an illness; we consider it to be a variation of the sexual function, produced by a certain arrest of sexual development. Many highly respectable individuals of ancient and modern times have been homosexuals, several of the greatest men among them (Plato, Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, etc.). It is a great injustice to persecute homosexuality as a crime-and a cruelty, too. If you do not believe me, read the books of Havelock Ellis." -Sigmund Freud (1856-1939)-- "Drunkenness . . . is temporary suicide." -Bertrand Russell (1872-1970)-- "Beauty is one of the rare things that do not lead to doubt of God." -Jean Anouilh (1910-87)-- "Speak clearly, if you speak at all; Carve every word before you let it fall." -Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr. (1809-94)-- "I am always doing things I can't do, that's how I get to do them." -Pablo Picasso (1881-1973)-- "We are one, after all, you and I; together we suffer, together exist, and forever will recreate each other." -Pierre Teilhard de Chardin- "I shall pass through this life but once. Any good, therefore, that I can do or any kindness I can show to any fellow creature, let me do it now. Let me not defer or neglect it. For I shall never pass this way again." -Etienne de Grellet- "Sin has many tools, but a lie is the handle which fits them all." -Oliver Wendell Holmes (1809-1894)-- "If you want happiness for an hour - take a nap. If you want happiness for a day - go fishing. If you want happiness for a month -get married. If you want happiness for a year - inherit a fortune. If you want happiness for a lifetime - help someone else." -Chinese Proverb- "Sympathy is your pain in my heart." -Adlai A. Esteb- "Seek spiritual riches within. What you are is much greater than anyone or anything else you have ever yearned for." -Paramahansa Yogananda- "Despise no man and consider nothing impossible, for there is no man who does not have his hour and there is no thing that does not have its place." -The Talmud (B.C. 500?-400? A.D.)-- "When we think of failure; Failure will be ours. If we remain undecided; Nothing will ever change. All we need to do is want to achieve something great and then simply to do it. Never think of failure For what we think, will come about." -Maharishi Mahesh Yogi- "He that falls in love with himself will have no rivals." -Franklin (1706-1790)-- "If you ever feel you can't go on, rest assured that you are not alone and that fast changes are arriving." -Seal- "Be good, be kind, be humane, and charitable; love your fellows; console the afflicted; pardon those who have done you wrong." -Zoroaster (B.C. 628?-551?)-- "Few cross the river of time and are able to reach non-being. Most of them run up and down only on this side of the river. But those who when they know the law follow the path of the law, they shall reach the other shore and go beyond the realm of death." -The Dhammapada (c. B.C. 300)-- "To be wronged is nothing unless you continue to remember it." -Confucius (B.C. 551-479)-- "To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice." -Confucius (B.C. 551-479)-- "Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius (B.C. 551-479)-- "To dream anything that you want to dream, that is the beauty of the human mind. To do anything that you want to do, that is the strength of the human will. To trust yourself, to test your limits, that is the courage to succeed." -Bernard Edmonds- "A thousand words will not leave so deep an impression as one deed." -Henrik Ibsen (1828-1906)-- "The only way to discover the limits of the possible is to go beyond them into the impossible." -Arthur C. Clarke- "Some people see things as they are and say why. I dream things that never were and say why not?" -Robert F. Kennedy- "A mind not to be chang'd by place or time. The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven." -John Milton- "I can honestly say that I was never affected by the question of the success of an undertaking. If I felt it was the right thing to do, I was for it regardless of the possible outcome." -Golda Meir- "One cannot and must not try to erase the past merely because it does not fit the present." -Golda Meir- "Money can help you to get medicines but not health. Money can help you to get soft pillows, but not sound sleep. Money can help you to get material comforts, but not eternal bliss. Money can help you to get ornaments, but not beauty. Money will help you to get an electric earphone, but not natural hearing. Attain the supreme wealth, wisdom; you will have everything." -Sivananda- "Don't be afraid your life will end; be afraid that it will never begin." -Grace Hansen- "The truth is always the strongest argument." -Sophocles (496-406 B.C.)-- "A lie never lives to be old." -Sophocles (496-406 B.C.)- "It is better not to live at all than to live disgraced." -Sophocles (496-406 B.C.)-- "I will permit no man to narrow and degrade my soul by making me hate him." -Booker T. Washington- "Her death takes place in the shadow of new life, she's not really dead if we find a way to remember her." -Star Trek- "I want to describe myself, not be described by others." -Johnnie Cochran- "I wept not, so to stone within I grew." -Dante Alighieri- "Our most intimate friend is not he to whom we show the worst, but the best of our nature." -Nathaniel Hawthorne- "I Am The Victor, Not The Victim." -Sean Howell- "Begin doing what you want to do now. We are not living in eternity. We have only this moment, sparkling like a star in our hand - and melting like a snowflake." - -Marie Beyon Ray- "It takes courage to push yourself to places that you have never been before... to test your limits... to break through barriers. And the day came when the risk it took to remain tight inside the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom." -Anais Nin- "Love never dies a natural death. It dies because we don't know how to replenish its source. It dies of blindness and errors and betrayals. It dies of illness and wounds; it dies of weariness, of withering, of tarnishing." -Anais Nin- "The perfect human being is all human beings put together, it is a collective, it is all of us together that make perfection." -Socrates- "To love means loving the unlovable. To forgive means pardoning the unpardonable. Faith means believing the unbelievable. Hope means hoping when everything seems hopeless." -Gilbert Keith "G.K." Chesterton (1874-1936)-- "The angels fly, because they take themselves lightly." -Gilbert Keith "G.K." Chesterton (1874-1936)-- "Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experiences of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition inspired and success achieved." -Helen Keller- "When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one that has been opened for us." -Helen Keller- "We must interpret a bad temper as a sign of inferiority." -Alfred Adler (1870-1937)-- "It is the individual who is not interested in his fellow men who has the greatest difficulties in life and provides the greatest injury to others. It is from among such individuals that all human failures spring." -Alfred Adler (1870-1937)-- "Let us not be content to wait and see what will happen, but give us the determination to make the right things happen." -Peter Marshall- "Things don't go wrong and break your heart so you can become bitter and give up. They happen to break you down and build you up so you can be all that you were intended to be." -Charlie "Tremendous" Jones- "Happiness is good health and a bad memory." -Ingrid Bergman- "I have no regrets. I wouldn't have lived my life the way I did if I was going to worry about what people were going to say." -Ingrid Bergman- "He that wrestles with us strengthens our nerves, and sharpens our skill. Our antagonist is our helper." -Burke(1729-1797)-- "You must go after your wish. As soon as you start to pursue a dream, your life wakes up and everything has meaning." -Barbara Sher- "Don't walk behind me, I may not lead. Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow. Just walk beside me and be my friend." -Albert Camus- "Hold your head high, stick your chest out. You can make it. It gets dark sometimes, but morning comes. Keep hope alive." -Jesse Jackson- Source Unknown / Anonymous: "Overlook the faults of others and overcome your own." "One reason we should love our enemies is that we made them ourselves. Another reason is that they keep us on our toes, a third reason is that we should make them our friends." "What comes from the heart reaches the heart." "No one can make us angry. People can say and do things to us but it is still up to us as individuals to do what we want with our emotions in response to those things." "It isn't where you've come from, its where you're going." "Take a quiet walk, now and again, with the real you, who lives beneath all the everyday distractions. Find strength, courage and insight in the beautiful person you are." "Happiness should be a way to travel, not a destination." "Fill your heart with goodness and there will be no place for evil. Fill the world with beauty, and there will be no room for darkness. Fill your moments with joy, and there will be no room for regret." "We are each burdened with prejudice; against the poor or the rich, the smart or the slow, the gaunt or the obese. It is natural to develop prejudice. It is noble to rise above them." "Never be afraid to be wrong or you will never be right." "It's hard to face tomorrow, but it's easier than facing no tomorrow." "Glance at what you might have to lose, but focus on what you want to achieve." Buddha (B.C. 568-488): "We are shaped by our thoughts. We become what we think." "He insulted me, he cheated me, he beat me, he robbed me' -- those who are free of resentful thoughts surely find peace." "Hatred is never ended by hatred but by love." "Do not dwell in the past. Do not dream of the future. Concentrate the mind on the present moment." "Thousands of candles can be lighted from a single candle, and the life of the candle will not be shortened. Happiness never decreases by being shared." "It is a man's own mind - not his enemy or his foe that lures him into evil ways." "A good friend who points out mistakes and imperfections and rebukes evil is to be respected as if he reveals a secret of hidden treasure." Wayne W. Dyer: "You cannot be lonely if you like the person you're alone with." "You are never going to get it all, you are it all already" "Notice the acts of kindness other people do, rather than their wrongdoing." "Everything you need you already have. You are complete right now, you are a whole, total person, not an apprentice person on the way to someplace else. Your completeness must be understood by you and experienced in your thoughts as your own personal reality." "One of the first steps along your path is learning tolerance by practicing seeing the world as it is rather than as you demand it to be." "When tempted to judge others, remind yourself that they are part of the same divine creation as you are." "You'll seldom experience regret for anything that you've done. It is what you haven't done that will torment you. The message, therefore, is clear. Do it! Develop an appreciation for the present moment. Seize every second of your life and savor it. Value your present moments. Using them up in any self-defeating ways means you've lost them forever." "If you shift your attention to the present moment, you automatically let go of stress about the past or future." "Judgments prevent us from seeing the good that lies beyond appearances." "All of the judgment concerning appearances is simply a tool for upgrading oneself by comparison to another." "The habit of noticing so-called deficiencies is a tool that your ego uses to convince you that you are better than the people you are criticizing." "There are no failed relationships. Every person who enters and exits your life does so in a mutual sharing of life's divine lessons. Some have longer roles to play than others, but ultimately, you will return to your relationship to the absolute." "Instead of saying, "Why is this happening to me? Isn't this awful, Poor me," begin to say, "What do I have to learn from this?" "You get treated in life the way you teach people to treat you." "Everything in your life that you 'have to have' owns you!" Kahlil Gibran (1883-1931): "You may give them your love but not your thoughts. For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, for their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams." "When we turn to one another for counsel we reduce the number of our enemies." "Friendship is always a sweet responsibility, never an opportunity." Mohandas Gandhi "If I had no sense of humor, I would long ago have committed suicide." "You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drop of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty." "There is more to life than increasing its speed." "Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony." "Honest differences are often a healthy sign of progress." "My life is my message." "We must become the change we want to see." "As human beings, our greatness lies not so much in being able to remake the world -- that is the myth of the atomic age -- as in being able to remake ourselves." It's the action, not the fruit of the action, that's important. You have to do the right thing. It may not be in your power, may not be in your time, that there'll be any fruit. But that doesn't mean you stop doing the right thing. You may never know what results come from you action. But if you do nothing, there will be no result. Martin Luther King, Jr. (1929-1968): "Like the ever-flowing waters of a river, life has its moments of drought and its moments of flood." "Race prejudice is based on groundless fears, suspicions and misunderstandings." "I judge people by their own principles, not by my own." "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy." "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." "Not everybody can be famous, but everybody can be great because greatness is determined by service." "If a man is called to be a streetsweeper, he should sweep streets as Michelangelo painted, or Beethoven composed music, or Shakespeare wrote poetry. He should sweep streets so well that all the hosts of heaven and earth will pause to say, here lived a great streetsweeper who did his job well." "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy." Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj (1897-1981): "In my world, nothing ever goes wrong." "You do not have any problems, only your body has problems...In your world, nothing stays, in mine nothing changes." "My stand is clear: produce to distribute, feed before you eat, give before you take, think of others, before you think of yourself. Only a selfless society based on sharing can be stable and happy. This is the only practical solution. If you do not want it - fight." "Absolute perfection is here and now, not in some future, near or far. The secret is in action - here and now. It is your behavior that blinds you to yourself. Disregard whatever you think yourself to be and act as if you were absolutely perfect - whatever your idea of perfection may be. All you need is courage." "Whenever love is withheld and suffering allowed to spread, war becomes inevitable. Our indifference to our neighbor's sorrow brings suffering to our door." "For me the moment of death will be a moment of jubilation, not of fear. I cried when I was born and I shall die laughing." "Perfection is a state of the mind, when it is pure. I am beyond the mind, whatever its state, pure or impure. Awareness is my nature; ultimately I am beyond being and non-being." "The greatest guru is your inner self. Truly he is the supreme teacher. He alone can take you to your goal and he alone meets you at the end of the road. Confide in him and you need no outer guru." "You cannot transcend what you do not know. To go beyond yourself, you must know yourself." "You will receive everything you need when you stop asking for what you do not need." "Yes, I appear to hear and see and talk and act, but to me it just happens as to you digestion or perspiration happens. The body-mind machine looks after it, but leaves me out of it. Just as you do not need to worry about growing hair, so I need not worry about words and actions. They just happen and leave me unconcerned, for in my world nothing ever goes wrong." "The very search for pleasure is the cause of pain." "A man who moves with the earth will necessarily experience days and nights. He who stays with the sun will know no darkness." "You are all drenched for it is raining hard. In my world it is always fine weather. There is no night or day, no heat or cold. No worries beset me there, nor regrets. My mind is free of thoughts, for there are no desires to slave for." "Give up the desire for pleasure and you will not even know what is pain." "The world is the adobe of desires and fears. You cannot find peace in it. For peace you must go beyond the world. The root cause of the world is self-love. Because of it we seek pleasure and avoid pain." "By all means be selfish; the right way. Wish yourself well, labor at what is good for you. Destroy all that stands between you and happiness. Be all; love all; be happy; make happy. No happiness is greater." "Fear and greed cause the misuse of the mind. The right use of mind is in the service of love, of life, of truth, of beauty. "The problem is not yours. It is your minds only. Begin by disassociating yourself from your mind. Resolutely remind yourself that you are not the mind and that its problems are not yours." "If you imagine yourself as separate from the world, the world will appear as separate from you and you will experience desire and fear. I do not see the world as separate from me and so there is nothing for me to desire, or fear." "Were I very rich, what difference would it make? I am what I am. What else can I be? I am neither rich nor poor, I am myself. "Knowledge gives power. In practice it is very simple. To control yourself, know yourself." "There is no chaos in the world, except the chaos which your mind creates." Lucius Annaeus Seneca (5 BC-65 AD): "Drunkenness is nothing but voluntary madness." "If you wished to be loved, love." "He who has great power should use it lightly." "I do not distinguish by the eye, but with the mind, which is the proper judgment of man." "There is no great genius without a tincture of madness." "One should count each day a separate life." "We should every night call ourselves to an account: What infirmity have I mastered today? what passions opposed? what temptation resisted? what virtue acquired? Our vices will abate of themselves if they be brought every day to the shrift." "If we could trace our descendants, we should find all slaves to come from princes, and all princes from slaves." "The mind that is anxious about the future is miserable." "Wherever there is a human being, there is an opportunity for kindness." "Anger, if not restrained, is frequently more hurtful to us than the injury that provokes it." Publilius Syrus: "Reprove your friends in secret, praise them openly." "We are interested in others when they are interested in us." "Patience is the remedy for every sorrow." "In quarreling the truth is always lost." "Many receive advice, only the wise profit from it." "Take care that no one hates you justly." Ralph Waldo Emerson "Nothing great was ever accomplished without enthusiasm." "Spiritual force is stronger than material force; thoughts rule the world." To laugh often and much, To win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of children, To earn the appreciation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends, To appreciate beauty, To find the best in others, To leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social condition, To know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived. This is to have succeeded Whatever games are played with us, we must play no games with ourselves. It is one of the most beautiful compensations of this life that no man can sincerely try to help another without helping himself. Prayer is the contemplation of the facts of life from the highest point of view. "Self-Reliance" Though you may travel the world to find the beautiful, you must have it within you or you will find it not. Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. Thought is the blossom; language the bud; action the fruit behind it. Adapt the pace of nature, her secret is patience. I didn't find my friends, the good God gave them to me. "Jesus Christ belonged to the true race of prophets. He saw with open eyes the mystery of the soul ... He saw that God incarnates himself in man and evermore goes forth anew to take possession of this world ... He declared he was God; thus He is, and as I think, the only soul in history who has appreciated the worth of man." Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. You cannot do a kindness too soon because you never know how soon it will be too late. All Spiritual being is in man. A wise old proverb says, "God comes to see us without bell," that is, as there is no screen or ceiling between our heads and the infinite heavens, so is there no bar or wall in the soul where man, the effect, ceases, and God, the cause, begins. "The Over-Soul" "Most of the shadows of this life are caused by standing in one's own sunshine." [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 08:30:27 -0000 From: "Rev. Dr. Susanne Freeborn" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: CWG JavaScript Updated THANKS BILL! Love, Susanne ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________
------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 17 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Happy Alternatives From: "Bill Clift" <[email protected]> 2. Re: Happy Alternatives From: Mary Norwood <[email protected]> 3. Re: Happy Alternatives From: Mike Beebe <[email protected]> 4. Re: Happy Alternatives From: "Bill T." <[email protected]> 5. Re: Happy Alternatives From: "Madame SansNom" <[email protected]> 6. Communion With God From: Marcia Mastroddi <[email protected]> 7. Re: Communion With God From: Mary Norwood <[email protected]> 8. Re: Happy Alternatives From: Mary Norwood <[email protected]> 9. Re: Happy Alternatives From: Mary Norwood <[email protected]> 10. Re: Happy Alternatives From: Mary Norwood <[email protected]> 11. Blesed be the cow! From: alleybug <[email protected]> 12. Re: Happy Alternatives From: Mike Beebe <[email protected]> 13. Re: Happy Alternatives From: Mike Beebe <[email protected]> 14. Re: Happy Alternatives From: alleybug <[email protected]> 15. Re: Happy Alternatives From: "M. Snipes" <[email protected]> 16. Why so many books? My opinion... From: "M. Snipes" <[email protected]> 17. Re: Happy Alternatives From: Mary Norwood <[email protected]> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 14:25:20 -0000 From: "Bill Clift" <[email protected]> Subject: Happy Alternatives Hi Everyone - My wife just gave me COMMUNION WITH GOD, and I think it is great! Hope we can all get re-charged and re- dedicated during this holiday season. I wish all of you Happy Holidays and Happy Alternatives to Civilized Addictions, judged by your own standards of happiness and Higher Powers. Bill Clift ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 11:28:25 -0600 From: Mary Norwood <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Happy Alternatives Dear Bill, I too think Communion With God is great. I cannot find the word I want to use to describe how it wrapped up CWG and FWG, not in a final "chapter" or a "famous last stand" or....whatever. See, I have the idea but not the word. I guess I am trying to say that it brought those books into a sense of greater understanding of the, sometimes, convoluted messages of who God is and what God is all about in terms of who we are all about. It gave me the sense of "now I understand it even better" and "now I can make sen se out of 'it' all"! And better yet, I can actually apply what I know into what I do and think and say. I applied it when I went to the dentist! I,personally, cannot think of any place I would rather believe is an illusion!! When she injected me (you know, long needle into excruciatingly sensitive gum!!!) I kept saying, "This is not real!" and it worked!!! I felt the pain but I did not suffer. I, instead, flowed with it and it became an almost spiritual experience! I did see the 'blue light' but I did not 'see' my soul! I am convinced that the blue light was the nitrous oxide!! lololol But, I now 'know' that it really exists and what an exquisite reality. Communion With God is a superb tool to help me dig out of the trench of illusion turned reality! Holiday Blessings, MaryN At 02:25 PM 12/23/00 +0000, you wrote: >Hi Everyone - > >My wife just gave me COMMUNION WITH GOD, >and I think it is great! > >Hope we can all get re-charged and re- >dedicated during this holiday season. > >I wish all of you Happy Holidays and Happy >Alternatives to Civilized Addictions, >judged by your own standards of happiness >and Higher Powers. > >Bill Clift > > >eGroups >Sponsor<http://rd.yahoo.com/M=102308.1038796.2731130.908943/D=egroupmail/S=1700077360:N/A=466331/?http://features.yahoo.com/webceleb/carrey/> > > >To unsub from this list, please send an email to: >[email protected] > > >On-line reading guides for Conversations with God, >Books 1, 2 & 3: ><http://www.geocities.com/madamesansnom/WeeklyList.htm>http://www.geocities.com/madamesansnom/WeeklyList.htm > "...allow for the possibility that there may be something you do not know, the knowing of which could change everything." Communion With God by Neale Donald Walsch, page 16 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 12:21:47 -0500 From: Mike Beebe <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Happy Alternatives At 11:28 AM 12/23/00 -0600, you wrote: >I too think Communion With God is great. I cannot find the word I want to >use to describe how it wrapped up CWG and FWG, not in a final "chapter" or >a "famous last stand" or....whatever.... MaryN, I think you can COUNT on "Communion with God" not being the last book. Future titles might be "Frolicking with God," "Hangin' with God," "Getting Down with God," or "Up Close and Personal with God." I suspect Neale will milk this franchise until the cow goes dry. Lightly, Mike Beebe ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 12:46:56 -0800 From: "Bill T." <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Happy Alternatives There was a hint within "Communion" of a future title. Be watching for "Dying With God." Those who hold the CWG Books close to their hearts will add this to their collection.....unless of course ;-) The title alone calls forth a best seller. Merry Christmas To ALL !! Bill T. -----Original Message----- From: Mike Beebe <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, December 23, 2000 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [CWGConversations] Happy Alternatives >At 11:28 AM 12/23/00 -0600, you wrote: >>I too think Communion With God is great. I cannot find the word I want to >>use to describe how it wrapped up CWG and FWG, not in a final "chapter" or >>a "famous last stand" or....whatever.... > >MaryN, I think you can COUNT on "Communion with God" not being the last >book. Future titles might be "Frolicking with God," "Hangin' with God," >"Getting Down with God," or "Up Close and Personal with God." I suspect >Neale will milk this franchise until the cow goes dry. > >Lightly, >Mike Beebe > > > > >To unsub from this list, please send an email to: >[email protected] > > >On-line reading guides for Conversations with God, >Books 1, 2 & 3: http://www.geocities.com/madamesansnom/WeeklyList.htm > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 17:46:24 From: "Madame SansNom" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Happy Alternatives Except for the milking the cow remark, I thought this was funny. I am particularly looking forward to "Frolicking with God". LMAO. Cat _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 14:33:07 -0500 From: Marcia Mastroddi <[email protected]> Subject: Communion With God Hi Everyone; Yes, I got a hold of Communion With God and couldn't put it down either. I really think the illusions part is powerful. I am also struck by the single voice that it is written in. "Very few in the history of the world have heard so clearly..". and it goes on to list the masters and saints. What I do want to let you in on is my secret- I know the answer to your question about Neale's next book, because I am in it! It is titled " Moments of Grace" Other People's Conversations with God. It is an anthology of peoples experience of divine intervention. My story is about an art student, Juline who passed on. I began to intervene in showing her artwork around the city, and suddenly, I received a direct communication from her which was specifically instructed to be taken to her parents. She also requested a portrait be done for her mother. It is titled " A Special Student" and my pen name is Marcia McMahon. It is expected to be out in Feb, 2001. I look forward to this- and also hope that I will get a publishing deal for my two books. One is a spiritual memoir and the other is titled Prayer Meditation and Manifestation. It should be an exciting year for me. Wishing you all peace this time of year. Marcia ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 19:25:48 -0600 From: Mary Norwood <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Communion With God Marcia, How exciting for you as well as the rest of us! What a treat and I dearly love treats!! <g> I met Neale in November and I was quite taken with him! I mean that in the way that he wore no halos and is a human being who recognized who he wanted to Be! I have heard that voice and never recognized it as God or my soul (one in the same). I can now pay better attention and understand that the immediate thoughts, ideas, perceptions are me, the real me! I can be quiet and let the stillness take me where I need to go. All I can do is attest to the fact that my life is much more fun now! Now that I know that all of this is illusion, life makes a hell of a lot more sense! One of my favorite movies is The Matrix. If you have never seen it, I urge you to get it, rent it, watch it. After reading Communion With God, The Matrix makes an even clearer statement regarding reality and illusion and freedom. If you are not crazy about sci-fi, look past that and go into the 'message'. I have had some real issues about my religious upbringing and wondering how I could declare Who I Am. I have been dabbling in the ancient ways as well as Buddhism. I have come to realize that all religions have truths that may be masked by ritual or rules or dogmas. Jesus had a life to live and a statement about God and humans. He made the statement and it is profound. Buddha did the same. Paganism is beautifully earthy and I am drawn to its communion with all things. Because, even so called non-living things have life and if you know anything about atoms, then you know what I mean. And there is an aura around the most insignificant rock...knowing that I am a part of all of this universe, well, it is awesome! Holiday Blessings, MaryN At 02:33 PM 12/23/00 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Everyone; >Yes, I got a hold of Communion With God and couldn't put it down either. >I really think the illusions part is powerful. I am also struck by the >single voice that it is written in. >"Very few in the history of the world have heard so clearly..". and it >goes on to list the masters and saints. What I do want to let you in on >is my secret- I know the answer to your question about Neale's next >book, because I am in it! It is titled " Moments of Grace" Other >People's Conversations with God. It is an anthology of peoples >experience of divine intervention. My story is about an art student, >Juline who passed on. I began to intervene in showing her artwork around >the city, and suddenly, I received a direct communication from her which >was specifically instructed to be taken to her parents. She also >requested a portrait be done for her mother. It is titled " A Special >Student" and my pen name is Marcia McMahon. It is expected to be out in >Feb, 2001. I look forward to this- and also hope that I will get a >publishing deal for my two books. One is a spiritual memoir and the >other is titled Prayer Meditation and Manifestation. It should be an >exciting year for me. Wishing you all peace this time of year. >Marcia > > >eGroups >Sponsor<http://rd.yahoo.com/M=102308.1038796.2731130.908943/D=egroupmail/S=1700077360:N/A=466330/?http://www.yahoo.com> > > >To unsub from this list, please send an email to: >[email protected] > > >On-line reading guides for Conversations with God, >Books 1, 2 & 3: ><http://www.geocities.com/madamesansnom/WeeklyList.htm>http://www.geocities.com/madamesansnom/WeeklyList.htm > "...allow for the possibility that there may be something you do not know, the knowing of which could change everything." Communion With God by Neale Donald Walsch, page 16 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 19:41:18 -0600 From: Mary Norwood <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Happy Alternatives Mike, I understand where you are coming from (I hate ending a sentence with a preposition!). I know that Communion will not be the end, but, it has that summarizing quality about it. Maybe that is the word of which I have been searching! At first, your comments were somewhat stinging, about Neale milking the cow dry. I kinda felt like that naive little girl again. and that maybe I had been used or duped. But when I took off my victim T-shirt, I did not feel that way. I disagree with you about Neale but, even if you are correct, it is not important. What is important, to me, is that I can decide, on my own, what is my truth and what tools help me Be Who I Am! I know that my Be-ing was tickled pink while reading Communion. Pink may not be your color! <g> I value your opinion and your truth; I am evolving in a different way than anyone else. It took me all my life to get here. Even a year ago I would have argued to be right and would have thought that the argument for right was all there is. I now know that what is right for me, may not be right for you! Thank you for reminding me of that!! And only I can let my toes be stepped on and only I can know that even my toes are an illusion! Remember that you are one of my angels and I love all my angels!!! Thank you for my gift!! You may be right, unless you are not! Love ya bunches, MaryN At 12:21 PM 12/23/00 -0500, you wrote: >At 11:28 AM 12/23/00 -0600, you wrote: > >I too think Communion With God is great. I cannot find the word I want to > >use to describe how it wrapped up CWG and FWG, not in a final "chapter" or > >a "famous last stand" or....whatever.... > >MaryN, I think you can COUNT on "Communion with God" not being the last >book. Future titles might be "Frolicking with God," "Hangin' with God," >"Getting Down with God," or "Up Close and Personal with God." I suspect >Neale will milk this franchise until the cow goes dry. > >Lightly, >Mike Beebe > > > >eGroups >Sponsor<http://rd.yahoo.com/M=102308.1038796.2731130.908943/D=egroupmail/S=1700077360:N/A=466331/?http://features.yahoo.com/webceleb/carrey/> > > >To unsub from this list, please send an email to: >[email protected] > > >On-line reading guides for Conversations with God, >Books 1, 2 & 3: ><http://www.geocities.com/madamesansnom/WeeklyList.htm>http://www.geocities.com/madamesansnom/WeeklyList.htm > "...allow for the possibility that there may be something you do not know, the knowing of which could change everything." Communion With God by Neale Donald Walsch, page 16 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 19:45:42 -0600 From: Mary Norwood <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Happy Alternatives Bill, That is terrific news. I am not afraid of dying but I would kinda like to know what God has to say about it! <g> Love, MaryN At 12:46 PM 12/23/00 -0800, you wrote: >There was a hint within "Communion" of a future title. >Be watching for "Dying With God." > >Those who hold the CWG Books close to their hearts >will add this to their collection.....unless of course ;-) > >The title alone calls forth a best seller. > >Merry Christmas To ALL !! > >Bill T. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mike Beebe <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Saturday, December 23, 2000 9:15 AM >Subject: Re: [CWGConversations] Happy Alternatives > > > >At 11:28 AM 12/23/00 -0600, you wrote: > >>I too think Communion With God is great. I cannot find the word I want to > >>use to describe how it wrapped up CWG and FWG, not in a final "chapter" or > >>a "famous last stand" or....whatever.... > > > >MaryN, I think you can COUNT on "Communion with God" not being the last > >book. Future titles might be "Frolicking with God," "Hangin' with God," > >"Getting Down with God," or "Up Close and Personal with God." I suspect > >Neale will milk this franchise until the cow goes dry. > > > >Lightly, > >Mike Beebe > > > > > > > > > >To unsub from this list, please send an email to: > >[email protected] > > > > > >On-line reading guides for Conversations with God, > >Books 1, 2 & 3: > <http://www.geocities.com/madamesansnom/WeeklyList.htm>http://www.geocities.com/madamesansnom/WeeklyList.htm > > > > >eGroups >Sponsor<http://rd.yahoo.com/M=102308.1038796.2731130.908943/D=egroupmail/S=1700077360:N/A=466330/?http://www.yahoo.com> > > >To unsub from this list, please send an email to: >[email protected] > > >On-line reading guides for Conversations with God, >Books 1, 2 & 3: ><http://www.geocities.com/madamesansnom/WeeklyList.htm>http://www.geocities.com/madamesansnom/WeeklyList.htm > "...allow for the possibility that there may be something you do not know, the knowing of which could change everything." Communion With God by Neale Donald Walsch, page 16 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 19:47:06 -0600 From: Mary Norwood <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Happy Alternatives Cat, Milking cows has only one advantage for me; they are ready to milk two times a day every day......by someone who enjoys it better than I! lololol Love, MaryN At 05:46 PM 12/23/00 +0000, you wrote: >Except for the milking the cow remark, I thought this was >funny. I am particularly looking forward to "Frolicking >with God". LMAO. > >Cat >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at ><http://explorer.msn.com>http://explorer.msn.com > > >eGroups >Sponsor<http://rd.yahoo.com/M=102308.1038796.2731130.908943/D=egroupmail/S=1700077360:N/A=466331/?http://features.yahoo.com/webceleb/carrey/> > > >To unsub from this list, please send an email to: >[email protected] > > >On-line reading guides for Conversations with God, >Books 1, 2 & 3: ><http://www.geocities.com/madamesansnom/WeeklyList.htm>http://www.geocities.com/madamesansnom/WeeklyList.htm > "...allow for the possibility that there may be something you do not know, the knowing of which could change everything." Communion With God by Neale Donald Walsch, page 16 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 11 Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 17:39:55 -0800 (PST) From: alleybug <[email protected]> Subject: Blesed be the cow! HI friends.... I am reading with interest all the recent comments about the "next book" and what its title might be......and I am also thinking about milking the cow dry!!I do love the freedom we have to share our thoughts.....A very personal journey i am now making with my "books"....Each day i am bedside watching my mother die. We all know about the emotions and feelings at times like these.....i want to assure you I will be much more equipped to handle whatever comes along, thanks to Neale......Also Mike,....i would like to invite you to meet Neale in person someday unles of course,,,,,,,i think you will find Neale to be "real"........he can have my cow......and all the milk, too.......HAPPY HOLIDAYS.....AND BLESSINGS TO ALL OF YOU MY SOULMATE TRAVELERS....ALLY __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 12 Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 21:14:17 -0500 From: Mike Beebe <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Happy Alternatives At 07:41 PM 12/23/00 -0600, you wrote: >Mike, >I understand where you are coming from (I hate ending a sentence with a >preposition!). I know that Communion will not be the end, but, it has that >summarizing quality about it. Maybe that is the word of which I have been >searching! MaryN, here's the deal. I have met Neale intimately. On three different occasions over three years I have spent fifteen days with the man. He has told me as he has told MANY people that there would be THREE books. GOD has said, through Neale, that there would be THREE books. God is God, yes or no? If God is. Then how could God be mistaken??? >At first, your comments were somewhat stinging, about Neale milking the cow >dry. I kinda felt like that naive little girl again. and that maybe I had >been used or duped. But when I took off my victim T-shirt, I did not feel >that way. I disagree with you about Neale but, even if you are correct, it >is not important. What is important, to me, is that I can decide, on my >own, what is my truth and what tools help me Be Who I Am! I know that my >Be-ing was tickled pink while reading Communion. Pink may not be your >color! <g> I value your opinion and your truth; I am evolving in a >different way than anyone else. It took me all my life to get here. Even >a year ago I would have argued to be right and would have thought that the >argument for right was all there is. I now know that what is right for me, >may not be right for you! Thank you for reminding me of that!! And only I >can let my toes be stepped on and only I can know that even my toes are an >illusion! Remember that you are one of my angels and I love all my >angels!!! Thank you for my gift!! If the later books speak to you, that is WONDERFUL! I remember the early times when people were breathlessly waiting for Book 2.... then... when, oh when is Book 3.... I have had a constant challenge to ANYONE here: If you, or anyone, have seen anything in the later books that were not in the first THREE books, what information are you talking about???? Peace & Light, Mike Beebe ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 13 Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 21:16:14 -0500 From: Mike Beebe <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Happy Alternatives At 07:47 PM 12/23/00 -0600, you wrote: >Cat, >Milking cows has only one advantage for me; they are ready to milk two >times a day every day......by someone who enjoys it better than I! lololol Hey, with BGH, they can be milked even more. As the ARE in today's factory dairies... Milklessly, Mike Beebe ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 14 Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 18:24:43 -0800 (PST) From: alleybug <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Happy Alternatives Hmmmmmmmmm God mistaken???? Oh no!!!! Maybe just her truth changing......you know a woman....smile.... --- Mike Beebe <[email protected]> wrote: > At 07:41 PM 12/23/00 -0600, you wrote: > >Mike, > >I understand where you are coming from (I hate > ending a sentence with a > >preposition!). I know that Communion will not be > the end, but, it has that > >summarizing quality about it. Maybe that is the > word of which I have been > >searching! > > MaryN, here's the deal. I have met Neale intimately. > On three different > occasions over three years I have spent fifteen days > with the man. He has > told me as he has told MANY people that there would > be THREE books. GOD has > said, through Neale, that there would be THREE > books. God is God, yes or > no? If God is. Then how could God be mistaken??? > > > >At first, your comments were somewhat stinging, > about Neale milking the cow > >dry. I kinda felt like that naive little girl > again. and that maybe I had > >been used or duped. But when I took off my victim > T-shirt, I did not feel > >that way. I disagree with you about Neale but, > even if you are correct, it > >is not important. What is important, to me, is > that I can decide, on my > >own, what is my truth and what tools help me Be Who > I Am! I know that my > >Be-ing was tickled pink while reading Communion. > Pink may not be your > >color! <g> I value your opinion and your truth; I > am evolving in a > >different way than anyone else. It took me all my > life to get here. Even > >a year ago I would have argued to be right and > would have thought that the > >argument for right was all there is. I now know > that what is right for me, > >may not be right for you! Thank you for reminding > me of that!! And only I > >can let my toes be stepped on and only I can know > that even my toes are an > >illusion! Remember that you are one of my angels > and I love all my > >angels!!! Thank you for my gift!! > > If the later books speak to you, that is WONDERFUL! > I remember the early > times when people were breathlessly waiting for Book > 2.... then... when, oh > when is Book 3.... > > I have had a constant challenge to ANYONE here: If > you, or anyone, have > seen anything in the later books that were not in > the first THREE books, > what information are you talking about???? > > Peace & Light, > Mike Beebe > > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor > > To unsub from this list, please send an email to: > [email protected] > > > On-line reading guides for Conversations with God, > Books 1, 2 & 3: > http://www.geocities.com/madamesansnom/WeeklyList.htm > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 15 Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 21:42:45 -0500 From: "M. Snipes" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Happy Alternatives Hi Mike! > MaryN, here's the deal. I have met Neale intimately. On three different > occasions over three years I have spent fifteen days with the man. He has > told me as he has told MANY people that there would be THREE books. GOD has > said, through Neale, that there would be THREE books. God is God, yes or > no? If God is. Then how could God be mistaken??? Certainly a valid question. Here's what I see: There have been 3 "Conversations" books. In these books, there was a difinitive discourse between Neale and God. Both would ask questions, and both would answer. A true "conversation", of sorts. "Friendship With God" was a book that was an exploration of Neale's journey, and how he came to have his conversations with God. God would offer comments on Neale's experiences, but unlike books 1,2, and 3, "Friendship" was not meant to be as instructional or as educational. It was more a clarification of other issues, and in particular, how Neale was able to apply them in his life. It wasn't the same "Conversation" as the other books. "Communion With God" is also not a conversation, but a direct dictation from God, as Neale puts it. There is no discourse between Neale and God, it's just a further explanation of previous materials. Neale has said that each "Conversation" book became increasingly more difficult to write, especially the third book. He said that he "heard" nothing for years before book 3, and once inspiration came, it took even more time to come to its conclusion. It was a very exhausting experience for Neale, physically and spiritually. Perhaps God/Neale realized that 3 books that were "Conversations" were all that he (Neale) could handle; thus the different formats for the other books. Remember that we determine the future. Fate doesn't determine what will come, we do. Even God said that. Perhaps at the time that Neale was writing the Conversations series, 3 books were all that were needed to spread the message. When the books reached people and more and more people began to re-examine their spirituality, we changed our collective advancement as a spiritual body. Thus, more elucidation was required; something that both God and Neale did not forsee at the time of the series inception. The way to further the education was to write more, but different, types of books. Just my thoughts, for what they're worth. :) Peace, Megan ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 16 Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 21:49:38 -0500 From: "M. Snipes" <[email protected]> Subject: Why so many books? My opinion... Ally, I agree with you -- Neale can have my cow, too. ;) Since this topic has come up, I wanted to throw my hat into the ring, so to speak. I had the tremendous privilege of hearing Neale speak in October, and he is a beautiful and genuine soul. When I had the opportunity to thank him afterwards, I witnessed his tremendous kindness and patience with others, as so many clamoured around him, wanting to share their stories with him. He didn't strike me as someone who had ulterior motives. I've read somewhere that the average person has to hear something 8 times to learn it. That's something to consider. Sometimes we hear something when we're not really listening. Sometimes we listen, but we are distracted. Other times we struggle with what we hear, because it contradicts what we already know. Sometimes we forget what we have just learned. Some of us learn visually, some audibly. Since there are so many ways people learn, and since there are specific times in a person's life when they are *ready* to learn, Neale's books need to be different to reach people in different ways. Perhaps CWG 3 really resonated with some people, while it left others bored. Maybe CWG 2 was just what someone needed to read, while Friendship With God put the teachings into the personal context of Neale's life that someone else had to read before it finally made sense. The core messages are the same, but the phrasing and explanation varies. In one way or another, one of the books will reach someone in just the right way that they, as an individual, need to be reached. The way I see it, Neale couldn't have written just one book. God wanted to reach as many of her children as she could, and so the dialogue continues. The concepts in the books are also very, very controversial, and go against everything that some people are taught. Some of these people don't trust their own spiritual connection to God, and are more comfortable believing a "channel" like Neale, than themselves. In acting that way, Neale can continue to bring love and light into many, many lives. (Ironically, Neale himself says not to trust him as the only source of God's knowledge.) I don't see the expanding CWG series as a shrewd business move. I see it as Neale's commitment to bringing God's love to light for many people. Some of us just need to hear it the right way, when we're ready. :) Those are just my thoughts on the matter. Have a peaceful holiday, everyone. Megan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 17 Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 23:00:11 -0600 From: Mary Norwood <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Happy Alternatives Mike, How I love a challenge!!!! Okay, here goes something unless it is nothing!! There is nothing new in Communion With God! All the other books are wonderful and I especially adore the Is, Is Not dissertation, of which I had to re-listen to several times because when driving down the interstate, Is, Is Not is hard to follow, even on a good day. I will use the analogy of a sportscaster telling every play in minute detail, whether (s)he is on TV or radio. It is a lot of information, much of which is redundant, that has a circular path. The books make better sense to me after I listened to the tapes. Out of that circular path I gained a lot of insight, knowledge and 'truth'. I heard questions and answers. Each time I listen to any of them, I hear something a little different, understand a little more fully what I am to remember. FWG was presented in much the same way. Communion With God took me another step further, a step I will call rational problem solving. I was on a path I find very comfortable and familiar because my mind works much the same way. In fact, I have begun a snippet of my own called, for now, What If... I am doing it for myself, a logical, rather scientific approach to what God means to me in reference to logical inferences. In any scientific experiment, one starts with a hypothesis and then goes about proving it to be true. Communion With God reminds me of that process. Again, a conclusion process. I know I may not be making much sense but it sounds great to me. It has allowed me to expand and use what I know to find other conclusions/inferences about my ultimate reality. I am not trying to convince you to feel any differently about the book; I am explaining why I find it terrific. Hey, I wish I could spend that kind of time with Neale. I surely envy you that experience. I do not recall that God said that there would be only 3 books. In fact, even if God said only and absolutely only 3 books dealing with CWG, how do any of us know that is what God actually said because God said that Neale heard God through Neale's filter. What is to prevent Neale from writing more of his evolution with God? Is it my evolution that depends on Neale writing 1000 books? Is it yours? Isn't it Neale's evolution? Isn't it Neale's truth? Isn't Neale doing what Neale feels is his calling, mission, whatever? Is Neale the same person today that he was in 1995? Am I? Are you? My friend, my energy has all it can do to direct me. I understand Neale's past, I understand the crying out in absolute misery, the huge writing on the legal pad, the hell of trying to make sense out of the hell I was in. Don't we each have the right to walk our path? I am proud that he has come so far. If he falters, if he royally screws up, if he makes millions, if he does whatever, isn't it perfect, isn't it all just an illusion? Isn't he still Neale? Who will be his friend when he has written his next book? Who loved Jesus when the illusion of envy became someone's reality and the man was murdered? Neale is still God! Neale is still me! Neale is still Mike!! Just loving Neale for being God is all that is. Just loving you for being God is all that is! Love, Mary At 09:14 PM 12/23/00 -0500, you wrote: >At 07:41 PM 12/23/00 -0600, you wrote: > >Mike, > >I understand where you are coming from (I hate ending a sentence with a > >preposition!). I know that Communion will not be the end, but, it has that > >summarizing quality about it. Maybe that is the word of which I have been > >searching! > >MaryN, here's the deal. I have met Neale intimately. On three different >occasions over three years I have spent fifteen days with the man. He has >told me as he has told MANY people that there would be THREE books. GOD has >said, through Neale, that there would be THREE books. God is God, yes or >no? If God is. Then how could God be mistaken??? > > > >At first, your comments were somewhat stinging, about Neale milking the cow > >dry. I kinda felt like that naive little girl again. and that maybe I had > >been used or duped. But when I took off my victim T-shirt, I did not feel > >that way. I disagree with you about Neale but, even if you are correct, it > >is not important. What is important, to me, is that I can decide, on my > >own, what is my truth and what tools help me Be Who I Am! I know that my > >Be-ing was tickled pink while reading Communion. Pink may not be your > >color! <g> I value your opinion and your truth; I am evolving in a > >different way than anyone else. It took me all my life to get here. Even > >a year ago I would have argued to be right and would have thought that the > >argument for right was all there is. I now know that what is right for me, > >may not be right for you! Thank you for reminding me of that!! And only I > >can let my toes be stepped on and only I can know that even my toes are an > >illusion! Remember that you are one of my angels and I love all my > >angels!!! Thank you for my gift!! > >If the later books speak to you, that is WONDERFUL! I remember the early >times when people were breathlessly waiting for Book 2.... then... when, oh >when is Book 3.... > >I have had a constant challenge to ANYONE here: If you, or anyone, have >seen anything in the later books that were not in the first THREE books, >what information are you talking about???? > >Peace & Light, >Mike Beebe > > >eGroups >Sponsor<http://rd.yahoo.com/M=102308.1038796.2731130.908943/D=egroupmail/S=1700077360:N/A=466330/?http://www.yahoo.com> > > >To unsub from this list, please send an email to: >[email protected] > > >On-line reading guides for Conversations with God, >Books 1, 2 & 3: ><http://www.geocities.com/madamesansnom/WeeklyList.htm>http://www.geocities.com/madamesansnom/WeeklyList.htm > "...allow for the possibility that there may be something you do not know, the knowing of which could change everything." Communion With God by Neale Donald Walsch, page 16 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________