-------------------------------------- ICQ Chat Save file Started on Fri Apr 17 22:38:53 1998 -------------------------------------- <&PALchat1> Hello Folks Hey!!!!!! :) <&PALchat1> Hope you weren't waiting long :-) Hi....having trouble tonite? Hello all How ar eyou Sue Hi everyone! Sue you mentioned a zip of dingbat fonts <&PALchat1> Nope, just had to finish something up, then wanted to reboot cuz I didn't have sound Just wondered....saw you coming on and off line Hello everyone Hi Wanda <&PALchat1> Cheryl... I'll start with you then whoever else wants the file I would like the file also Sue Me too Hi everyone Me too Sue I would like to file, too. Thank you Just checking to see if I'm really here in the chat. It's been a long time since I've done this. me too please. What file? me too Outta Time...we see you Hi Jen.....glad you could make it <&PALchat1> Oh... could someone please log the chat for a backup? Sue what else do we have to have ready What file Hi....Sandi.... Hi Everyone else ready and doing Sue...what do I need to start... Font file I don't know how to log the chat, and I haven't done much with Dingbats, so I'm going to mostly "listen." logging I'm logging it <&PALchat1> Well, I don't have anything really planned I thought I would see what you all want to know and try to wing it! <&PALchat1> Thanks Marty everything <&PALchat1> Wow, this is gonna be a biggie Hey, Sue....it's my job, remember! :-) And then more Hi Cathy...good to see you here hello all <&PALchat1> Yes, I saw you and that reminded me to ask Marty :-) Hi RoniS Hi! I am going to try to drag my sister in here. BRB Sue, I've never used dingbats so guess I need to start from the beginning. Me too I downloaded Dingbats & can't find some - some won't install - says the file is damaged Me, too. Does anyone know if you get logged out of chat if you don't do anything but read? I know that used to happen on other chat programs. Which dingbat should be use Sue downloaded it again & still won't install - I don't have a clue can anyone help me ? <&PALchat1> mary Anne, that can happen sometimes when you download. You probably just need to download again. OttaTime, no you will no get logged out... OttaTime, I meant to say you will not get logged out. LOL <&PALchat1> This looks like it's gonna be a big chat so bear with me folks... did download thenm a secomnd time - anm I doing something wrong in the download? Jude, I understood what you meant, but thanks. <&PALchat1> Hmmm... could be the file is corrupted on thier end. Mary Anne did you put in fonts folder so nothingh I can do ? yes in W95 fonts did anyone download the listmergens fonys with no problems? How do you find Win 95 fonts? Where? <&PALchat1> Well, normally I would offer to have you send me the file and I would try it... but with everything going on right now I can't... maybe later, after the chat MaryAnne thanks so much - very hapy to do it later Sorry maryann no help here Sara...fonts folder is in Control Panel Hi Boopster here............. <&PALchat1> Mary Anne, add my other ID to your contact list 589764 and remind me after the chat or tomorrow. Hi Boopster But I need to d/l them again - I deleted them <&PALchat1> Hi Boopster hi lynn Thanks will do hi sue My sister is joining us - MJ - Marijean - she is a PAL but not on any of the lists. <&PALchat1> Welcome MJ <&PALchat1> Cat, did you get my e-mail about ArtToday? Glad to have you join us MJ Hi MJ welcome Hi Marijean....I was hoping to see you soon...but apparently not Her specialty is clocks - she has sold about 200 of them hi MJ nice to meet you Yes - Sue - will take care of that 200...wow!!! Wow MJ....thats great have not done one yet <&PALchat1> Wow... cool... hey MJ, you will have to try to come to our marketing chat on Monday night Was thinking the same thing I did a bunch of clocks for Christmas gifts and they were well received, but I don't have time to do things to sell. Marijean is trying to figure out how to type a note. Hello everybody I'm trying to figure out how to do this Meanwhile--back to dingbats I played with some this afternoon and got some Hi Marijean, you jdid just fine. <&PALchat1> Maybe after a few of you receive this file of dingbats, you can start sending it to some other people that would like them. You're doing great MJ sorry I'm late interesting effects using shapes behind them with just colored rectangles I'd be happy to send them Sue <&PALchat1> Great Lynne.... you will have to tell us how you did it! I have the file...Sue any particular font a good one u to use for this I've used basic dingbats a little in typing letters to parents - I've used the smiley face, a pair of scissors, and an arrow or two, but I haven' t brought them into PA for special effects. sounds cute Outta! Do we need to have Pa open? I downloaded them but can't find them. Guess I'll just listen tonight <&PALchat1> Cheryl, no I don't think it matters much... you will get the basic idea with any of them Sure, put the dingbat in sign, changed to cutout and adjusted the color, then put a colored rectangle behind it and changed the shape of the dingbat and then the color block I did learn that using the Character map in Windows is a good, quick way to find a dingbat when you're basically doing text. How will we get the zipped fonts you have for us? <&PALchat1> I'm sending the file out one at a time thru ICQ Sara Ok, thanks. Another helpful thing i've found is use your word processing software and print out your Sue how do you send through ICQ I have done some playing with dingbats...used them for Easter cards..they came out cute dingbats in large size <&PALchat1> You can right click someones name on the left of the chat window and choose file. Sue as soon as the downloading finishes...I can send the file to some Thanks Sue hi Sharon Any one want the file hi ya' sharon =0) Hello PA comes with a font called shatter - looks like stained glass. I used it with the cutout effect with a muticolor background. Looked like a stained glass window. Hi Roni <&PALchat1> Sara... you are next for the file... Me please I missed the beginning. What is in the file? I could use the file..I lost all my fonts in the puter brain loss! lol dingbats, outta time <&PALchat1> Oh, that sounds neat Cathy I would like the file when someone gets around to it.. I would like the stained glass please???? I would like to receive the file also hi Marty...congrats on the house! :) Just the basic ones that come with Windows, or some specialty ones? I have some cats, and stuff like that. On their way martym Those of you who have 4.0 should have the shatter font. <&PALchat1> These are some of the ones I have downloaded... not me. That's Marty Rhyme. :-( Jude I can send if you like where do you find the cutout effect ? Thanks Cheryl, that would be great. hi maggy oops! lol well..congrats on where you live too Marty! lol Getting it now. Thanks Cheryl hey hey Hi Maggy Maryanne...in PA under effect When you click on fonts, I believe that cutout is in the drop down menu. <&PALchat1> Anyone else jump in if you have some dingbat tricks to share Could someone send me the file please thhanks - never saw that - will have to try it - sounds great I like being able to use then when I love the background..but don't want to use that much ink for the whole card What file are ya'll talking about? I'll send the file to the first person that asks.. ME PLEASE Wanda, I'd like it when you can thanks Sue have we started yet <&PALchat1> I probably picked too many, but I couldn't decide which ones to leave out! maggy do you know how to use dingbats? i have heard how to use them.. but have not tried yet could you tell me how? <&PALchat1> Once I get a few of these files taken care of I thought I would walk anyone thru the cutout effect that doesn't know how to do that... Sue is there such a thing as to many anything when it comes to this stuff? File is coming in now. This is the first time I've done this. Where will I find the file? would love that lesson !! J & J should be getting the file now i would like that too pal I need to know that Sue Yes its coming thru Wanda....thanks <&PALchat1> Then if anyone has Publisher, I thought I would show you how to use a dingbat for your bullets in Publisher 97. OttaTime you will find the file under ICQ/received files The cutout effect is under effect in PA. Just click on it then go to color and set background and background ourline to clear and then face and face outline to white, Voila! you have created a dingbat mask Outta...is the file coming through okay?? Jude, thanks - I'll have to investigate. The file seems to be coming in. What can we use in place of Publisher? I would like that too Sue! Oops - either the transfer ended or it aborted. Oh well, I'll see! Yes, I'd like that, too. I'll try again after J & J has it...Outta <&PALchat1> Well Sandi, I don't know if any other programs can do that other than Publisher. brb Its taking a bit of time Wanda.....its got a long way to travel cross the PAcific Wanda - thanks. You can certainly tell I'm new at this! <&PALchat1> A lot of times I will use a dingbat as a decoration for when I need something to fill up a little white space on a card. I will be happy to send to someone when mine is done...just let me know who needs it still ME, me Nancy! You can use them one at a time? <&PALchat1> Or I will use one as an accent to put on the inside left of the card rather than leave it blank. <&PALchat1> Now some of you might have some of these already. would someone please send it to me? I think I was the first one, and I'm at 92% now Whomever was sending me the file, it just quit.. Sorry about that.. Don't know what happened. I'd like it too please :) What is being sent <&PALchat1> Maggy, it's a zip file of about 25 dingbat fonts that I put together. This Sue hasn't received it yet either... J & J...let me start the file transfer again boobster.. when you get it .. send it to me.. okays ok Wanda I would like the file aloss[excuse the error - can't seen to delete ] also - Please no Nancy what is it?? no how so? Is it shareware Nancy I'm all unzipped now, but I guess I have to move them to Windows. Is that right? <&PALchat1> These go in C;|Windows\Fonts <&PALchat1> oops, typo... but you know what I mean Yes, but I forgot - now I will have to move them. <&PALchat1> Yes, move them into Windows\Fonts I'm getting it now...thanks yes - Please Someone mentioned using dingbats before for a stained glass efffect....could you run thru that one please. Will we use them tonight or can I move them later? can you make a dingbat transparent in the centre J & J....sorry...but the file just isn't going through...remember though we have come through storms in the last few days..I kept getting kicked off <&PALchat1> That was Cathy McC and looks like she got knocked off Nancy I would love that addy for Someone send the file to J & J Cathy said she used the font in PA4 called Shatter for the stained glass effect. <&PALchat1> She said she uses the "Shatter" font which comes in PA 4, and then the multicolor effect. Guess I'll have to get PA 4 to get the 'shatter', huh! Dingbat.zip <&PALchat1> Maybe some kind soul will send it to you Helen. We have a lot of kind souls in this group Would love to have it Lynn Got it...thanks Nancy Yeh, all kinds <> <&PALchat1> Maggy, with the cutout effect, the black part become transparent and the transparent part becomes black... if that makes any sense. Maggy....mine is only at 15% Laugh when you say that Sara (ggg) Shatter isn't listed in my PA 4 either ohh okay.. so you dont really see it till you go to print mine either - just looked <&PALchat1> You might have to go onto the CD and install it if you did a minimal instal of PA 4 Cheryl, I am not getting the file, it just quit.. <-----BRB <&PALchat1> The cutout effect will work with any font, BTW, it just makes neat masks when you use a dingbat. I have "Shatter" in PA 4 now what do I do with it? <&PALchat1> If you use the multicolor effect with it, it looks like stained glass Can anyone list examples of specific dingbats that they have used and for what purpose? Wanda.....perhaps we should try email...this is taking so long Thanks for the file...whoever just sent it to me I have used Ancient Heads for book marks oh thanks....... J & J....I just sent you an email about it <&PALchat1> YOu can also combine them to create a border. <&PALchat1> Boopster we must have a slow connection. OK Mary Anne, what are, is ancient heads? I'm at 28% maggy ) okay i got it transparent... but how do i block the background a dingbat that I downloaded with heads of P Roman & Greek figures -- neat lookingh Nite Nancy <&PALchat1> So shall we try the cutout effect in PA now? <&PALchat1> Who else needs the file? yea me Sue, can I get it from you later??? me Mary Anne they sound great I still need the file, it aborted on me a few minutes ago. I still need it please i got a HOTDOG from the letter O in Food Font I do I still need it Sue they are very nice & very detailed and i want to put hotdogs behind it I didn't get it, but I don't have to have it now . I do please Yes, please Cheryl.. Can we use any dingbat for tonight's lesson <&PALchat1> Sittara gets it this time <&PALchat1> Yes Susie Cheryl - when you stopped transmission to Jude my reception of the file speeded up nicely. <&PALchat1> Ok, if you want me to lead you thru this, go ahead and open up PA to a blank sign. Can we have another lesson on this, Sue? OK Sue, then I can wait till tomorrow or so to get the file. In ICQ, Lynn? BRB Lynn..thanks for the shatter font got a blank page me too ready me too Ready when you are. ready here Ready also ready me too <&PALchat1> Ready... now bring up the text bos, type in a letter and change it to a dingbat font ready here ok got that.... letter O in food font got it ok OK <&PALchat1> I typed a capital M and used dingbats two.... this will give you a heart shape. <&PALchat1> Then go to effects, cutout I have a Z that is shattered okey dokey <&PALchat1> Then insert a fill or a jpg graphic and maximize it by by <&PALchat1> Then send it to the back I got it Lynn. Thanks did it I think I got it. <&PALchat1> Now, select the dingbat and mazimize it... ready <&PALchat1> Go to color, customize, and change the black part to white. amazing !!!! neat! Pretty neat. I'll have to play around with this stuff. <&PALchat1> Ta da! great cool Thank you !!! <&PALchat1> Now, lets try something else.... ready way......kool I need the log on this to go back and do it again. OK k <&PALchat1> Select you dingbat and choose cutout again so it is back to normal. <&PALchat1> Who's ready for the file now? I am You can try me if you want Which file? when ever you can send it the dingbat one boobster did you get it to work <&PALchat1> Ok, Medium, you are next Got to go now - thanks a heap!\ <&PALchat1> ok, now if you've got your dingbat back to normal... start playing around with all the things under the effects menu. Hate to say this but am only getting a few of the posts...do I hit override <&PALchat1> ok, Sara... thanks for stopping by <&PALchat1> Yes to override and no to auto color, Jenny Neat!!!!! I need the dingbat file , Sue I'm going to have to leave now, too. But later if someone wants to e-mail the dingbat file to me, they can send it to caroledoyle@prodigy.net. It's been fun! Can I get someone to send me the file by email please... I gotta run.... Thanks so much Bye <&PALchat1> Jenny, it's over a meg is that ok? I'm downloading the file. Thanks ever so much ok...I have a heart dingbat on my svreen...now what do I do? J & J...send me an email and I will send the file to you wanhenry@prodigy.net <&PALchat1> So back to that effects menu.... with regular clipart you can't use most of the effect, but with a dingbat you can. Thanks Sue! <&PALchat1> Hi Lurker LadyDone <&PALchat1> I mean DOVE LOL LOL :) what effect should i use? OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YOU SHOULD SEE WHAT I DID <&PALchat1> If you wanyt to make it into a "mask" use cutout <&PALchat1> Tell us Maggy! I took a coyote picture for the back ground and use fat letters. in cut out... and wrote Coyette it is my other nick HI <&PALchat1> Hi Daffy... hi Daffy hi <&PALchat1> Another thing you can do with dingbats that won't work with regular clipart, is you can use the shhapes palette. yes ??? I used a heart dingbat...now I have a red frame around it a blue backgroung, and a red heart in the center!!! KOOL!!!!! maggy did you get the file i sent? I see it's still coming :) :) :) it is coming good sorry.. i had a channel take over.. had to go help <&PALchat1> ok, who still needs the file? THANK YOU soooooooo much for the help...I have to go and help a new person with Email...later Guys :) :) :) :) <&PALchat1> Bye boopster Bye bye all How long should it take to get the file? I'm at 26% - 290K and it's been 45 minutes. Well, Cheryl was sending me the file, so something must have gotten goofed up. whoops....can't leave 'till this file is finished :) :) :) <&PALchat1> Well, you might want to start over Marty, you have the option to resume if you cancel out. <&PALchat1> Looks liek Cheryl got dropped. I just aborted it. My download was just completed <&PALchat1> Hit cancel and I'll send it to you Marty okay... i got the file any one else need it Good, here you are. I would like it - Please <&PALchat1> OK, does anyone here have Publisher and wants to try the bullet thing? I have publisher and use it alot don't have it I have publisher too. the file transfer was cancelled <&PALchat1> If you want to try it, open publisher and let me know whan you're ready. if using more than one letter.. by the other sender how do you get them to touch.. instead of having a space got it <&PALchat1> Go to effects, touching Sue, I don't have Publisher so I will exit for the night...thanks bunches for your help...was fun. maggy...I need a cover for a floppy 3 1/2 and the envy to put it in do you have a template? I made 12 disks today for the Mini-Meet <&PALchat1> G'nite susie what was the file called... Good Night All <&PALchat1> ok, back to Publisher.... I have it open Sue. <&PALchat1> Insert a text box and type several lines of text. okay...got it <&PALchat1> Once you've got that, highlinght your text and choose the bullets button on the toolbar, then choose More from the drop down list. I still need it <&PALchat1> You should have a box thats says indents and lists <&PALchat1> Make sure bulletted list is checked <&PALchat1> Then choose new bullet Maggy Baby did you see my message? <&PALchat1> Then you get a grid, where you can change the font and choose any character for your bullet so far so good <&PALchat1> Find one you like, and just hit ok, til you get back to your documant. Cute! <&PALchat1> You can also change the sixe of your bullet if you want it larger or smaller. got my file! What a difference in time. Thanks Sue <&PALchat1> You're welcome how do you change size? <&PALchat1> When you go to bullet and choose more, the point size is one of the options there. oh, this is neat! You realize you are my guru Sue! <&PALchat1> When I made a flyer for our house we were selling, I bulletted all the features with tiny little house bullets... came out cute. <&PALchat1> LOL <&PALchat1> Hi Sandy. <&PALchat1> If anyone else needs the dingbat file... I can send a couple more Which dingbat was the house from? Hi Sandy <&PALchat1> It was from Webdings I think How many fonts are in this file? Did you say 18? Thanks Sue <&PALchat1> I think 28 <&PALchat1> I have over 50 dingbat fonts installed on this computer! LOL I would like file, it time. Sue When ever you can send them is alright with me Sue. I can try to send it to someone. Haven't done it before but would like to try. Neat Sue...sure would spark up a letter in publisher Sharon - can I send it to you? sandy...are you still getting the file? gotta go for now...thanks for the lesson sue Thank's Marty that would work <&PALchat1> Bye Wanda Bye Hi I missed the whole lesson. Can someone send it to me? <&PALchat1> So does anyone else heave any tricks they can share? <&PALchat1> Sandy, if you e-mail me at mesue@usa.net, I will send it to you? Sharon - what is your ICQ number? wish I did !! LOL the Shapes are good to use with Backgrounds too <&PALchat1> Betty, are you on a slow connection? i have done that.. with a vase shape... and used it for holding flowers I've got to say goodnoght... Thanks for the fonts and the lessons, Sue. what do you mean """?? Maggy ?? Maybe, ATT. should I abort?? it's not moving? <&PALchat1> Oh, that was something else... you can tile a bunch of them and create a watermark background with them. Send to me later, if you wanta. OHHHHHH Sharon - I need your ICQ number or is Sue sending it to you? <&PALchat1> Nah, it's going... slowly, but it's still moving :-) ohhh yea.. <&PALchat1> Marty, just right click her name and choose file I think Sue's sending it but it's not moving. can you tile a graphic. .. or jpg Ooooooh is it Sue. Thank's Says it will be 22 more mins? Forget it. where do you find the tile feature ? <&PALchat1> No Saron, I thought you canceled it... ours stopped nope haven't done a thing to it My moden is 56K, must be connected at 24000. betty want me to try to send to you i have a 56k I did stop it now who wants it <&PALchat1> Maybe it's me... who knows. We just got new phone lines installed here today... Will it matter if my connection is the hold up??? <&PALchat1> Try Betty, Maggy not a problem, I'll get it one way or another. <&PALchat1> BTW, if anyone here bought Draw6... there are some really cool dingbats that came with it. Look's like this one's working Yes you will! :) Sue - why is it saying 290K when shouldn't it say 1.06mb on my end? <&PALchat1> The names all start with DF if you want to check it out. Hahahahaha! Sneaky pal... if there a tile feature in PA how do you "tile " them ???? Sandy...it's almost done!!!!!!!! Just noticed Marty is sending it. Thank you <&PALchat1> MaryAnne, there isn't a tile function in PA, you would have to duplicate it and align it and keep repeating that. OK - I know how to do that -- LOL PA needs to add that feature :) <&PALchat1> I agree It would be nice large tile 4 of them med tile 9 of them <&PALchat1> So does anyone have any URL for dingbats they can share? sm tile 25 of them Hi everyone Hi Ola. 24 of them for sm 4X6