-------------------------------------- ICQ Chat Save file Started on Wed May 06 15:24:59 1998 -------------------------------------- <&PALchat1> Hiya Hi Sue, how are you today? <&PALchat1> You're the first one here <&PALchat1> Good, how about you? I am a one time person usually. LOL It is a beautiful day here in MN. <&PALchat1> Yes, here too... in FL. <&PALchat1> Hi Margie Are you into the really warm weather yet and where in FL? Hi Margie... <&PALchat1> North Central FL... it's pretty warm today, but nice in the shade I have friends about a hour west of Orlando. Hi.. guess I made it huh? I forgot what I was supposed to put this in.. give me a clue ok? <&PALchat1> Yep, you did... hope all your puter troubles are gone for a while. :-) Yup, you made it Margie and how are you today? irc style under layout <&PALchat1> I'm not sure what you mean Margie <&PALchat1> Oh... it's easier if you uncheck autocolor and check override format Well, my scanner still doesn't work & I keep getting something abt some dll file that isn't right but basically it's better. Ok thanx. <&PALchat1> Hi Sittara Margie do you have an HP scanner? Yep.. I do. It shows that it's connected but tells me some other program is using it when it isn't. Hi Sue. That I know of anyway. There is a conflict between autoscan and win95. Go to the MS help site and you can find the answer. <&PALchat1> Wish I could hook my scanner back up :-( Hi Sittara... Could it be bcuz he added the service pak 1? I don't know, but check out the ms help. If I knew where my info was I would send it to you. But I took the autoscan off. autoscan? hey everyone Hi sittara & Penny. On my scanner there is a button on the front and you just push it and it will autoscan.. Hi Penny. <&PALchat1> Hi Penny oh, I don't have that. I have the lil one 5Pse or something like that. Hi Sue <&PALchat1> So does anyone have anthing specific to marketing that you would like to talk about today? Hello all! I have the 5P flat bed and that is what is on mine. anything & everything. Well doggone.. is that what that green thing is on the front? Appearance of your products is important and labels with your name and tel. #. Yes, Lilbit...LOL Where to sell our crafts? <&PALchat1> Is anyone here already marketing their PA stuff? no, but would like to I think. I am selling my stuff in two stores, one a craft store and the other a flower shop. how did you make the original contacts Judy? what kinds of stuff you selling And I have notice some people do not have neat and easy to read labels and that looks sloppy to me. <&PALchat1> Seems like craft stores and flowers shop would be good places. <&PALchat1> Good tip, Jude The one store called me after seeing my stuff in the local one and I joined that when it started. <&PALchat1> Do your stores charge you commissions, Jude? <&PALchat1> Hi Cathy I just put together some samples and go to the store and ask if they are interested. Hi Cathy.. good seeing you here Hey everybody Hi Cathy. hey cathy I am glad to be here - needed a little chat with my PALS jude---what kinds of things are you selling? I need more courage I guess. me too lilbit I sell baggie tags things, greeting cards, which are a big selling, framed verses, note cards, which do not sell as well as greeting cards, magnets. <&PALchat1> I need my addition to be done.... but there is a lot I can do to get ready until then. Hey Sue.. how do you log these things? <&PALchat1> File Menu, Save Buffer ok, thanx. how much do you sell the greeting cards for I sell them for $1.75 and I get two cards to a page w/ matching envie. <&PALchat1> Hey I have an accomplishment to share... that sounds good. I really like the baggie things. Are your cards embellished? 1.75 for each card? what sue! yes, tell all. <&PALchat1> Yesterday I managed to print 12 envelopes without one goof-up! It's a first for me do you have maggies bag tag disk no, but I'm thinking on it. I use the glittering scribbles on a lot of them, mainly cause I love to do that. But that is all. I have my designs and so it is quick to make cardss. That is a great accomplishment! you NEED it--it's great I need all her newer ones. <&PALchat1> I get soooooo mad when the envelopes goof up are glittering scribbles the same things as glitter glue? That seems like it would be easy and fast to do, Judy. I ordered it and already have so many, but they are fun.. I have a large display of mine, which are made to hang on a rack. what kind of rack do you use Penny is that the one that says Bag Tag Catalog? That's a clever idea. It is Cathy, especially when you get used to doing it and it really adds to the cards.. yes sue I filled a form out today! That's good to hear SueC.. I don't like it when the envy's don't feed right. A freind of mine just opened up a florist. She wants to sell my stuff in her shop. jude---what kind of rack do you use that's great Cathy.. you're on your way. <&PALchat1> Good for you, Cat I hope I also put all my greeting cards in a plastic sleeve. In a floral shop you need them because of the humidity. i have a friend that owns a convenient store that wants me to make cards for the store where do you get the sleeves? Where do you get the plastic sleeves? that sounds good Penny.. lot's of luck thanks I found a source in Oregon and I order them by phone. They have several sizes to choose from and if you want the name and number I can give it to you. <---has LOTS of questions <&PALchat1> Margie... let me tell you about an idea I had... I thought I would make bookmarks for the MCBUG guys to take and pass out when they do the things at Barnes & Noble, with my info on the back of course. please do <&PALchat1> Ask away Penny... Are they like envelopes? i want the # wow Sue.. why didn't I think of that gonna ask again---where do you get the racks? <&PALchat1> So you think they will go for it? No, they are more like a sleeve with the top open. I have seen cards put in the clear envies, but I do not like that idea. I want to be able to look a the cards. <&PALchat1> Penny... someone posted a source for the racks in our last Marketing chat... did you get the transcript? I have found racks at other stores going out of business and have friends looking for me. don't see why not. If they don't, hey, I could take them & pass them out for ya. no--can you send it to me <&PALchat1> Yep... coming up... I would like the # too For Bags etc. also try BAGSplus - www.BAGSPLUS.COM There racks are not very and they are table top, made out of wood. They are nice though. I'll take it too if ya have a mind Sue.. I meant to say not very big. LOL <&PALchat1> It might be a while... I don't want to really start Marketing myself until we get our addition built oops.. meant if ya don't mind.. sorry. <&PALchat1> Haha... sometimes it's questionable if I have a mind. LOL Sue I been trying to have a business with my house under construction. It ain't fun!! Boy do I relate to that.. LOL you know I didn't mean it that way. At least I hope. <&PALchat1> That's what I thought Cathy... right now I don't have any space to work. Hard for this ole lady to keep up with the conversation & type to. Sue - I don't think I see what you are saying. <&PALchat1> Here is the supplier for the racks: Wood Factory PhoneOrder #1-800-842-9663 how much are the racks? <&PALchat1> Cat - which Sue? I keep seeing someone talk about Sue or am I going crazy? I think the racks are $29.95 plus shipping.. you gals get to typing---lol i have to pick up my daughter in 10 min i see no sue either cathy I think I am going crazy <&PALchat1> There are two Sue's here... me and Suebuggy. well actually, we have 2 Sue's.. Sue who is chat1 & Suebuggy. GMTA oh---i would call you palchat---lol Suebuggys just listening, mostly :o) <&PALchat1> I forget I am palchat so when you were talking to Suebuggy... I thought you meant me... talk about confused! chatsue--would you send me this when it's over??? i have to go and get my child Is this being logged for others to d/l? think so. <&PALchat1> Sure thing Penny... which Penny are you? Pennyhop@aol.com <&PALchat1> Ok. thanks <&PALchat1> As long as I don't get disco'd it will be logged. i know that feeling <&PALchat1> Any more questions? yeah, me too though I haven't had much trouble yet. Getting on gave me the most. OK - I wanted to ask you a questions - totally unrelated - I will wait till later. ask cathy <&PALchat1> Oh... I have something you guys might be able to help me with Hi Wanda! yeah, don't keep us in suspense.. no fair. <&PALchat1> Hi Wanda Hi Wandy Hi Wanda Hi everyone...I almost forgot about it hey wanda Glad you joined us. I was going to ask Sue to pick me up one of those books to get discount lodging in Orlando. i got 5 min left now that's countin' the min eh? LOL <&PALchat1> I am trying to come up with a poem for each holiday to put on the large candy bars... then I would take custom orders and the wrappers would have the persons name on the front, and there is space on the back for a personal message of 50 words.... Penny - it is so nice when they can drive and you dont have to go get them all the time. <&PALchat1> So... my question is.... I'm trying to figure out the best way to display them? i will be glad when she is that old What do you guys find sells the best Judy is a good one for that. For me magnets and greeting cards.. then the framed verses. do you have a wrapper for mothers day?? I sell more notecards. oh, that sounds easy enuf. <&PALchat1> OK Cat... I'll try to pick one up. I sell more candybar wrappers I sell quite a few of the initial ones and then I have others with a graphic on it. Do you do them made up or just in sheets? <&PALchat1> Who ya askin Penny, me? anybody have a wrapper for mother's day that they will send to me ????? Sue are you talking about displaying them in stores?? anybody <&PALchat1> Yes Wanda <&PALchat1> I just have a poem, I haven't done the design yet Wanda - did you sell your printer? <&PALchat1> I think I sent that to you this morning in e-mail Nope...not yet..interested??? you did--thanks---now i know which sue you are !!!!!!!!!1 I just bought one! oh no....!!! You should have asked 3 weeks ago. what you selling wanda <&PALchat1> Whatcha sellin Wanda? I would like some ideas on what to put on regular size candy bars for my gdaughter's first grade class. I know...I keep putting it off that is a good one jude I am selling my ALPS 2300...its the one that has the continuous tone for photos <&PALchat1> why ya sellin it? Its less than 6 months old...and selling it w/$190 worth of cart..... yeah, don't ya like it? how much wanda I could use the money and I just purchased an Epson... $450 ...so you are actually getting it for a little over 250 i gotta go---maybe i can get back online before you all leave--enjoyed it I have a favor to ask. <&PALchat1> Jude...are these for her to give her classmates? Lilbit...I love it..but just need to sell it Yes, she just sent a new town and school and thought it would be for you to give. oic I have redone my website. I am asking my customers to sign my guestbook and say whether they liked my service, etc. <&PALchat1> Hmmm... I'm thinking.... okey dokey...will go there after this I can do the candy bar wrappers, just would like a clever idea to put on them. <&PALchat1> Same url, Cathy? I thought that would help for people who don't know me. yes same URL <&PALchat1> ok... will do And if you have anything bad to say, you can do that too i sent my sis....she just lovvvvvvvvveeeddddddd my laminator Yes - I heard from her. what would that be? I don't know anything bad. I luv my laminator too, it's so quiet. I have done a web site and would like you all to took and would like to hear good and bad comments.. addy is: http://pages.prodigy.net/judec/ Well - I am sure there is something bad .... aw, Cathy don't say that... LOL ok.. while looking at Cat's I'll try to sneak over to yours too. ask my children Jude...what program did you use for setting up your web page??? thanks lilbit.. no problem. Shari Rose helped me a lot, so I could not say, but I did DL Hippe and am going to try to do one on my own for prodigy.com I need to find an easy program for web pagging <&PALchat1> Looks good so far Jude... now I know who you are... Judy Crandall! I used Hippie to. It is easy to use but it keeps crashing one me. Any other recommendations for a good web program, except Front Page.. I guess there is a major bug in that one. i can't spell today either <&PALchat1> There is a typo on the title tho... Versus n Visions A typo on the web page? Mine says Verses? You guys been there already? I have a one track mind, can't do that much at one time. lilbit - me too! <&PALchat1> Up in the title bar... not on the actual page I like the background on yours Judy... guess I'm afraid I'll miss something ya know? If you all see errors on my site, please tell me. I would appreciate it. Well darn - I guess I am gonna have to go look. Where do I find the title bar??? and thanks for telling me this. Ahhh...beautiful photos Judy Thanks Wanda and I love the background too. All my fav colors. <&PALchat1> It's the strip up at the top of your browser window... where the minimize maximise and close buttons are. someday I'm going to get smart like y'all. Judy - Sue is talking about what goes between <&PALchat1> The rest looks great! Oh my goodness I never ever noticed that.. Now to figure out how to fix. LOL at least I hope. Well folks, we have a storm moving in so I better shut down this puppy. Talk to ya later. It is not actually on the screen <&PALchat1> Thanks for translating that Cathy... I don't know anything about HTML. <&PALchat1> Bye Debbie so sorry sittara.. What is the difference in thumbsplus and ACDSee? Yes, I see it now.. That made me thing of something. Maybe we could have a chat on how to do web pages and ideas. <&PALchat1> Do you guys have any siggestions for the next Marketing chat? That is a good idea! yeah, splain that & which is better? <&PALchat1> Ok... I'm game Jude... but would need an experienced person to lead... I know nothing about making web pages. I know a little - basic stuff. me either but I'd like to learn. Oh yes...I am game too! I write my own code. But I don't know the advanced stuff. There is excellent help for those of you on Prodigy in the newsgroups on web pages. Oopss..gotta go...storm here and my puter flashed...bye for no I got this web tutor & it's beginning to sink in a lil <&PALchat1> Bye Wanda Do any of you advertise your wares? And if so where? I think I understand lots of it but what to say stumps me some. Nope - don't advertise here. the kind of things I do, I have found advertising doesn't work. <&PALchat1> I just did a brochure up, but haven't sent any out. only place I have is on the website that Sandy did for me. I would like help with something. Instead of making samples of all my designs for the florist shop, I am going to put them on disk. I need to do another one of thoses.. <&PALchat1> Cat... you could do some kind of slide show... that would be cool. There is a computer in the shop that is very convenient. I don't know if I should use ACDSee or Thumbsplus or what? If you put them on disk, how would anyone look at them if they didn't have a computer. how could people see them then, unless they have a puter. <&PALchat1> But what about people that don't have puters? Thumbsplus would be my choice. This is in the florish shop - they would go to the computer to look at the designs. Why thumbsplus - why is it better. oic.. that explains it. Sounds kewl! <&PALchat1> Do you know anything about PowerPoint... or another presentation program? I personally would not like them on disk. I am a hands on person and if I want a card I want it right now.. This would be for personalized stuff. <&PALchat1> Studio M probably would work too. invitations and stationery. In Thumbsplus you can make the thumbnails different sizes for one thing. I would have samples and then different designs on the computer. That makes it different and that may be the way to go. I have/had Cpic, which would do a show & is pretty cool but I lost my registration # & now it says it's going to expire soon. <&PALchat1> I think you are better off using a presentation program than something like thumbsplus HINT: get a notebook and put all your passwords and reg #'s in it... I thought of that now when it's too late. What are some presentation programs. I am not familiar with them.. Lilbit, for the next time.. LOL Wonder if I cld the Co if they'd give it to me. What is a presentation program? I would think so or write them on their web site. If you registered it, they should have a record. <&PALchat1> PowerPoint... geez... I'm drawing a blank but I know there are others... the ones where you can do like a slide show. that's a neat program & if you set it to show it'll just keep flicking all the graphics that are in that file. Do you any control over a slide show? <&PALchat1> Also Studio M is sort of a presentation, but the company that makes that also maeks another one... I forget the name. I should think there'd be a way to start & stop the presentation. <&PALchat1> Yes... it works similar to a web site... you could have headings like notecards, stationary, gifts, etc... then they click to see samples, and so on Oh - that would be neat! <&PALchat1> Kindof like the preview demos a lot of programs have Hey, that would be neat for craft shows as well don't ya think? <&PALchat1> Heck... you might be able to do it with HTML even.... set it up like you would a web site. I just hate the thoughts of taking my computer to shows though. Course, you'd have to have electric.. wouldn't work outside you'd just need a cheapo one for it I'd think. I was at Opryland Hotel during Christmas. There was a craft show being held there. There was a lady doing framed pics on her computer. Bet that was cool <&PALchat1> Cat, do you have Studio M? It was just simple graphics and a name - like for a child's room. No - I don't. <&PALchat1> Bummer Cat, meant to ask you what do you sell your note cards for and are they personalized? I think I am going to start out with Thumbsplus or ACDSee - see how it works. That way you will be able to tell which one you like.. Yes - they have their name on them. $.50 each includes envy. should give that C-pic a try too cat.. might do what you want. <&PALchat1> That sounds checp <&PALchat1> cheap I sell mine in a pack of 4 with just an initial and they are $2.50... I do a little gift set that comes in a velcro envelope - 10/$7.99 <&PALchat1> are the 10 all different? no That is a cute idea. You put the cards in a packet? I haven't tried selling any of this stuff yet but I'd like to. That gives me another idea.. I make an envelope that will hold 10 cards and envies. It folds over and attaches with a coin velcro. oh goody.. Great idea.. I would love to share how I make this envelope, but it is too difficult to explain. I'm waiting to hear your idea Jude??? I was referring to Cathy's idea of the note card packet. oic.. you mean putting them in the packet.. I'm slow Do you know the cover stuff that you buy to use with binding combs? <&PALchat1> How do you package your noteacrd Jude? Cathy, any chance you would sent me the template? Jude begging on her knees...LOL I don't have a template. I have tried to make one and can't. This is something that takes me showing you how to do it. Maybe at convention. I do all my initial note cards on Astroparche and tied them with a light blue ribbon with a bow in the corner and add my tag that I made and can be use as a gift tag for the person buying. probably would take me "seeing" it to know how. Ok, thanks Cat.. I use the covers that are supposed to be used to cover a book to make the envelope. <&PALchat1> Sounds nice... I should have said Astroparche Blue... duh... <&PALchat1> I found some clear boxes once but don't remember where... I only have two left. Great idea and I have the general idea.. <&PALchat1> I think it was a RS store I thought about boxes, but that adds to the cost if you are selling. <&PALchat1> I just made a set of 1 doz notecards for my MIL for Mothers Day I also use the clear envelopes for notecards. I use the half sheet size and you can reseal them. didn't you find those on the web? Seems I remember you posting a note abt it once. Laura Johnson sells the clear envies in different sizes. sounds like she has a good price on the zip lock baggies too. <&PALchat1> No, I don't think so... I just pulled one out and it has a paper inside that says Embossing Arts Co. I have problems finding the A2 envelopes. I have to order them out of CA. Do you have an Arvey's where you live? That is where I buy mine and they are very reasonable.. About $8.50 for 250. hmmm.. I remember someone giving an addy once. Wonder who it was. I probably have the note somewhere <&PALchat1> Cat, they usually have all kinds at Oddlots-of-paper on the web... the only thing is you have to go by the names alone. unless I lost it with my other stuff. <&PALchat1> I got these over a year ago yeppers.. seems like it was before the split on PAFUN. Are all of you going to the convention? I'm planning on it. <&PALchat1> I am. I am Well good!! <&PALchat1> Cat, is this a specific discount book you are looking for or any ol' discount book? you coming too? planning on it. oh goody. Sue - I was going What???? Now I remember <&PALchat1> LOL you know you can pick those books up in convenience stores. They are full of places to stay and coupons. <&PALchat1> Were we supposed to get some kind of confirmation that our registration $$ was rec'd? <&PALchat1> Ok... just wanted to make sure I knew what you wanted. If you will get one - I will tell you what I am looking for and you can just E-Mail me the info. I don't think so. I did get a # when I called though. <&PALchat1> Margie, do you get the Star-Banner? I have not received anything. no but I could They will not send you anything, I don't think. You will have to call them. <&PALchat1> No, you don't need to do that. I can pick one up. <&PALchat1> My fictitious name ad is supposed to run tomorrow. Ya'll want believe where my son is today. He had to go testify at his friend's parents' divorce hearing. oh.. kewl! Now that sounds interesting... <&PALchat1> Oh no... how old is he Cathy? meant that for Sue I think it stinks that they are getting him involved - 19 years <&PALchat1> That does stink I agree, Cathy... for sure. What is this fictitious name stuff? <&PALchat1> So do want the next meeting to be Marketing via the Web? whatever.. I'm game Sounds like a plan to me.. <&PALchat1> Cathy, in FL when you start a business you are responsible for making sure the name is not in use already for your county... one of the requirements is to place an ad in the legal section of the paper. I tell you what I want to find out more on - getting a merchant accoutn that does not cost a fortune. Frosty has left the chat? I never saw that one. OH - I see. <&PALchat1> She came and went in a flash You have to do that here in MN too.. It has to be published for so many days and costs about $80. guess we wasn't what they was looking for eh? <&PALchat1> That will be one of my next steps Cathy Hi Frosty.. <&PALchat1> Here it was $40... only has to run one day. --------------------------------------