-------------------------------------- ICQ Chat Save file Started on Tue Mar 24 00:09:13 1998 -------------------------------------- <&PALchat1> My modem was being testy tonight hi this is frosty here. I have been trying to get through forawhkl.e I was beginning to think I had missed something. I just got home and tried to join in. <&PALchat1> No, we just barely got the computer back together in time... then the modem was not working right. I guess that was good news for me <&PALchat1> NOw, I can't seem to get a message thru to Barb...hmmm I know I have talked to afew who were also wondering what happened they said that it might be rescheduled <&PALchat1> You know, I think I need to go off and back on because I was disconnected a little while ago Hello folks Hi Chris Hi Chris I think ICQ is being testy tonight.... Hello everybody. Hi Hellen, Rose, and all Hi there <&PALchat1> Could someone message Barb that we are here... or pull her in? Hi Anna, you made it yes and I am so excited! PA is open and ready to go! No one watching the Academy awards? what is her # I will do it.... Nah this is too important...LOL. Not me. Actually I am suppose to be working on my portfolio which is due Thursday morning! I agree... I have them on and watching with one eye BarbKay is 885478 do you want me to get her? I'm against the Academy... <&PALchat1> Please Lynne For Babe not winning a couple or so years ago... <&PALchat1> What kind of portfolio Rose? Hi Lynne I am student teaching and will be graduating in May. I have this HUGE portfolio that I have to turn in when I do my exit exams. ack there you are Dave Hi Helen!!!! :) <&PALchat1> I feel bad... here I was telling everyone to be on time and hubby picks tonight to change out the motherboard... ugh. Whew, that was like pulling teeth! <&PALchat1> Oh, good luck Rose everyone a friend of mine is here tonite, Dave meet my friends, friends this is Dave i tried to bring in barb but i blew it.... :-( I will go and try to get her. Thanks! Hi all Well, I'm glad you're not on time! :) That's cuz I'm late! hahaha Me too! Hey Sue......chat request isn't working for me either.....will keep trying. wow, Lynne I was here early and no one else was here <&PALchat1> Whew... Barb... we did it! ooops sorry barb i blew it.... Oops - we've already started on another chat window! Dave, Anna is a friend of mine from about 50 miles away, Ithink I have mentionned her name to you Anna, Dave lives in Ca. he and I have been friends now for years that is what confused me Yes, I believe you have. Hey Dave....remember me? so what is going on two chats at once? Oh Hi Dave <&PALchat1> Well, there is a way to merge the two but I've never done it... do you want to do this again another night? she and I are going to be meeting for lunch some sat. soon Is the blank sign in PA supposed to be in Portrait or Landscape mode? Hi im here again but im still not seeing the how to on making templates yes when you are feeling better Well L Dove, are the heck are you? Let me try it how Just great Dave....and you? Still kicking Good! :) Frosty, I'll try it with you Hows things up your way Dove? What have I missed? try what Barbkay?? is anyone seeing my messages no Hi Daffy just kidding I see you Dafy Yes Daffy. Hi everyone <&PALchat1> Yes Daffy... we are still trying to get organized... had some connection problems earlier. Hello all. yea im having problems here to Anyone still there? im here I am. Yep I am still here me, too just quiet...listening to my cat's tear up my house! Great! Thought I had been knocked off and didn't know it yet! GGG hi beccas Hi Beccas, you there? Helo did I miss anything? Just setting things up now Miyah how many cats do you have Yup I am here Jamie Hi everyone ARE WE ALL IN IRC MODE? If not this will be very hard to read and keep up. Just go to layout above and click on IRC chat. Hello Dave Daffy I have two white male cats...one is deaf and the other is his ears...LOL I was kicked off for some reason but I have returned ,g> <&PALchat1> Yeah Dave... I think it's ustomatic after 6 people <&PALchat1> automatic <&PALchat1> Who's honkin'? Who's honkin' the horn? I don't know I did Control button and letter G &PALchat1, wow didn't know that. Good thanks for the info. Is it my turn to honk the horn? Sure We have one inside cat and 4 that stay outside they sure are a lot of company LOL Daffy Honk if your....... Thanks for the info--now i have a new amusement! wheres everyone going ok ok wow, people sure are horny here tonite :) Sure got quiet! Hey this is fun honkin' the horn! woo hoo ok we hear you What time is it guys? LOL Frosty ...Im shocked I guess there are a few. Okay Barb...now what? Outta my way Monday drivers! Anna your turn now ,g. Please stop the honkin LOL 8 pm pacific time don't ya just love it?? Hahahahahah! Too bad my kids are in bed! LOL Helen! :) Sorry 'bout that! I got 10:47 here Bec, you forgot the please I got 10:49pm. 9:49 here Me thinks we're a tad late. I've got 9:40 here. 9:47 here all my clocks are fast! Honk if you're late! Frosty I did not I said Please Almost eight LOL I meant 9:50--I slipped! Ok B ec Bunch of honkies okay someone has found a new toy.... Simple pleasures! we have to dehorn them I guess And tonight's academy award winner is: Just turn down the volume The envy please... ICQ yaaaayyyy! Or....turn it off!! clap clap clap Any or neat tricks? ICQ is the winner! Dave are you doing that ICQ beat Titanic by a long shot! Not me, honest. I just turned my sound off....LOL LOL EVERYTHING beat the Titanic! It sank, remember? I don't know of any others It's not me darn it. Yup. OK, everyone here - we're ready (again) Titanic was very good no joke! Are we gonna start? I think that Captain Kirk and the rest of the Enterprise crew would've sunk the movie! I'm ready LOL Lets do it!!!!!!!!! Yeah!!!!!!!!!! You need pa open to sign, new, 11.8 Portrait or Landscape mode? got it which one is 11.8? Beccas, isn't it past your bedtime? just kidding landscape gotta remember I am new at this.... Dave behave yourself I am tired of studying for midterms so yes I am up late past my bed time ready for some fun go to insert, graphic, in the gg get blank You should now have the blue box. Go to object, maximize I'm lost already? Dave be good okay Chris, are you in pa? Do you have new sign? I'm lost too Okay, I got it... Sorry just being honery. Thanks Lynne got it I am lost... Barbkay, I may be early in asking this but why do this rather then inserting a frame? i didn't know that was tucked away in the gg. ugh Wonderful Helen! :) Yeah I got PA loaded. Things are a bit slow on my side. By using the blank, you can change it to a graphic for a card. The frame won't let you do that. But it's real handy for templates, right? I think I got too much stuff open & running at the same time. howedo i load pa at the same time as icq Thanks, I didn't know the reasons for each one. Go to the START menu It might help if you reduce the size of ica and pa, so you can have them both open side by side I just ALT-TAB between the two Does everyone have the maximized blue box now? yep YEs...I do Yup yes KNOCK OFF THE HORN!!!!! Yes Just how big is the blue box supp'sed to be? I am all set I think yup Now you need to have the blue box hightlighted, go to edit, duplicate okay did that. Cool! ok ok Then object, max on the new one. You should have 2 boxes, one on top of the other ok well kinda my one is off to the right a little Done. next... ok ok ok I have only a blank page me too Bec, if they're both maximized, they will be the same done The 1st one on mine is minimum sized done.. Barb, insert the blank blue box, max it, duplicate, and max that one If both boxes aren't lined up, go to edit, select all, object, maximize ok great that was my prob. what blue box <&PALchat1> 'scuse me... some of you might want to tile PA and the chat window so you can see them both. Provided you only have PA and ICQ open and nothing else... right click on your taskbar and select tile windows vertically. Now a tricky part. highlight the top box, and grab the right edge. resize by dragging the edge to about 1/4 inch pat the center X Barb, go to insert, graphic, and put blank in the gg. You'll get the blue box what does ee mean Daffy, if you mean gg, that is graphics grabber Next, repeat the last steps by duplicate, max, and resize, but this time start on the left and resize just to the right of center ok now your losing me me too sort of I hate to be a pain here, but I was on the original one and now I clicked again and ended up here. OK. highlight one of the blue boxes, dupliate it, then max. Is it too late to join? Well, I'm lost Rose thats what i did and now i am totally lost me too ok so we have one big square in the back and 2 squares kiddy corner from each other right? Do you have the first blue box up? What blue box? Please quit honking the horn? Do you have PA open to landscape sign? Whoo boy. My first square looks like a skinny vertical rectangle who's honking the horn No, portrait, I can switch. Barbkay who are you talking to? <&PALchat1> You can go to Other on the menu and uncheck Enable sounds.... it is much more peacful that way. Rose yes, its gettin anoyingg Yes, Barb? What shape is the blue box supposed to be in now? ok thanks I now have one big bos and 2 half size side by side am I right i am total lost what blue box I am in landscape--now what? ok, so I have 3 boxes now and none are aligned with each other. To catch everyone up.... First go to insert, graphic. When you get the graphics grabber, enter blank. You will then have the blue box The What OK, now I have a blue box. Insert, then graphics, then get BLANK graphic ok i have a blue box to I started all over again. Back in the sign, go to object, maximize Okay, done done gotit done done Now edit, duplicate, object, maximize. You should have 2 boxes on top of each other ok Wouldn't it be better if one box was max and the other min? OK No, Chris - you need the center X Ah okay. Next, highlight the top box, and resize by grabbing the right side and moving it to about 1/4 inch past the center x The left size, top and bottom should not move thats left side ok OK OK, I think I got the hang of it now Now highlight a blue box, duplicate, and max it ok now I am lost Me too We're starting over, Bec - you've already done this So the top box is sticking out the left side about 1/4" beyond the bottom box? oh ok great thanks ok So now we have 3 blue boxes? I now have 1 large box and two half width and full height on top right? The top box shoud be just a little narrower than half of the big box I got 2 large and one half sized. on the center or the sides You now have 2 large boxes and one smaller box i got 2 large boxes and one 1\4 size box what should we have I have a strange star-thing going on. Daffy, the box should be half size - top to bottom same as the big one. ROSE _ YOU GOT IT!!!! Ah, I see. 2 stars leaning into each other at the center? ok now i have a star thing sort of mine is two triangles leaning to center one is upside down Now, highlight the new big box, and resize it like the other one, but start on the left side and resize to about 1/4 inch past the center Twin stars! I have a double star. Now you can delete the first big box - background one. you should have t half-size boxes, about 1/2 inch apart, and the same size I have them! :-) cool!!! Yabba Dabba Doo! ok Ihave 4 small boxes is that right? i got them Now save it as half size card template. To use it, open - check open copy so you don't overwrite it - and change the blue boxes to borders, background, graphics, etc. Wait a minute do I need 4 boxes? Bec, you should only have 2 boxes. each of them half size ok I am lost tottaly lost one at the top and one at the bottom? If you have 4.0 with rulers, each box shuld be about 5 x 8 side by side, with about 1/2 inch in between ok guess I will just sit and listen cause now I am totally confused Does everyone have it? yep yes Bec, you had it before - what happened? Yep yeppers! Yes! Ready for another one? Yes yes Yer the boss! sure wel all I know is I hve 4 boxes Get rid of two Beccas. Bec, get rid of 2 of them, the other 2 should be side by side 5"wide by 8"length ok did it ok with about 1/2 between the two. inch How about a KitKat candy wrapper? The two remaining should be 5x8 in size how do you know? Yes, what size? Sounds great Barbkay Sounds cool Barb.. small snack size sounds good GREAT cool I happen to have a wrapper in front of me - saved it for this ok go for it a ne blank sign? GGGGGGG empty? Beccas, 'cause Barb said so before a few sentences back I'm totally lost Do I do a ne blank sign? Nope For this one, we want to use business card. Get a new one up, orientation doesn't matter because we'll be changing it text moving too fast too read landscape or other are we suspose to have a bc or a sigh Business card right? Blank business card Ready You should save the card template we just finished BTW, what was the first template for?--I was late. half fold greeting card Can I get private lessons some time LOL ok I am ready ok i got the bc Sure - we can meet at Mesquaki for lunch nobody pays any attention to what is written or answers any questions how are we supposed to lear if you go so fast uh huh yeah right LOL First thing we need to do is determine the size. So I'll measure the EMPTY wrapper Barb I am trying to pay attention Go to edit, change dimensions I haven't finished trying to read what you wrote on first template you go too fast and with half screen is is not readable HOW??????? Are you using a split screen? Go up to file and see where it sys save buffer save it. yes I think under layout you can change to IRC ok Barbkay what did you want us to do? Change the dimensions to width - 2.7 ht. - 3.8 now it is long? ok Is there anyone that does not have 4.0? I can open it instead of 3.0 Is Plat. ok? I'm going to be using the rulers, so 4.0 would be a lot easier. Plat is fine. I have rulers. Barbkay no rulers in PA 3? have 4.0 open now. just wondering none in 3.0 ok ready i just disabled sound what is the purprpose of those horns anyways O got a long card Next, we need to place our fold lines. ok ready for fold lines ok how? where do i find rulers Drag a blue ruler line down to 3/4 inch from the top im using 4.0 plat got it Next one is another 3/8 inch down from the first ok wait a minute what is 3/8 down from that? <&PALchat1> Daffy, go to View on the menu and choose ruler blue ruler line got it beccas - 1 1/8 I think so it is an 1 1/4? beccas - 1 1/8 ok I got it I thiank LOL I got my 1st one in the wrong place, how do I fix it? Next line is down 1 1/8 more - 2 1/4 total <&PALchat1> Rose, put your cursor over it and when it is a double arrow... you can drag it up or down Just highlight it and move it how do i get a blue ruller line 3 lines on there now Daffy, are you using 4.x with rulers? <&PALchat1> Daffy, click on the ruler and drag down with the cursor 4 platium with rulers ok i think Ok, BTW in plat the ruler is not blue Click on the ruler and drag down - the line will be there oops - never used plat. <&PALchat1> What color rose? black first one is 3/4 second is 1 1/8 third is at 2 1/4 Got it. ok I think it is 3/4 & 1 1/8 & 2 1/4? Recheck your lines, Jamie This is really great! Much better than figuring it out on my own!!! got it Next line is another 3/8 - total 2 5/8 ok ok It is that little line that is a little bigger after the one no the next one after that got it There is the basic layout for the small kitkat bars. The rulers don't save, so we need to put a blank box in each spot. how? Insert, graphic, blank. Then resize it to fit between one set of lines. Duplicate and repeat Say Barbkay waht is all the extra white space for at the bottom? That's the last section of the wrapper. this is great i never used the ruler before will make working in pa a lo3t easier LMK when you have all 5 blue boxes in the part put under? now barb I have only 4 2 boxes 3/8", 2 boxes 1 1/8", one box 3/4" ok ok got it Next we need to label the boxes so you know what goes where are you going to show us how to put text in oh ok ready Insert, text, put in "front" That goes in the center large box ok Next add text "ingredients" the same way? hi bon same way. That goes in the lower little box hey hey... i am here.. better late than never ok Jamie, we're labeling the sections so you'll know what goes where I don't think my sizes came out the same as yours. Also, how do you get the boxes next to each other? i think i am too late.. i will see you all another night.. bye bye That is, without a gap or overlapping. a little gap is ok - better that way you should be in business card Getting kind late tonight, but we could do it another time. LMK what you want to try just 2 text boxes? Jamie, go to edit, change dimensions. It should be width = 2.7, ht. = 3.8 ok well it is 11:00 here and I gotta go to bed lol Now I see why my dimensions were different. In your 1st post I got 2.7 ht. Nest text box back. Goes in the bottom box So will talk to you all later Barbkay you did great!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is so cool! Thanks Barbkay. You have great patience with us! ( I also teach kindergarten) If anyone saved the whole chat, I sure would like a copy. Missed the beginning. shift + arrow What was the keystroke to move things just a little? I am so excited I learned about the blank box...now I can do just about anything....yipeeee Next text box - "mfg. by" - little box above front, but turn it upside down This is just adding text so you know where things go. Top box is the part that is blank, goes under the back for gluing Now just put in your graphics, added text, and print them out. I get 4 to a page. Any more questions? Did you do this and the greeting card? Anything else? <&PALchat1> Thank you Brab.... {{{{aplause}}}} too cool! thanks Barbkay <&PALchat1> Ooops... Barb! do we have to change anything in the options when we print? Thank you! Just tile clap clap clap cheer Big thank you Barb! <----- humbly bowing :-))))) I'll do the folded bus cards next time Did two things this session? I was late the blank box is so cool i didn't know it was hiding in all my graphics...LOL <&PALchat1> Great Barb... get in touch with me about doing the next one, k? I've saved the log - I think - so if anyone needs it, LMK I do Barb. 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