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I do most of </div> <div> my own microbiology along with all my handfeeding on babies from day 0 or </div> <div> taken from the nest box at three weeks of age. </div> <bR> <div> I own all my birds and with no consignment in my home. I do own several </div> <div> pairs of specific species that are placed throughout the States. I breed </div> <div> here the large Macaws including the Hyacinthines. I also have Queens, </div> <div> Rosebreast, Greys, Vosmaeri Eclectus, Capes (P.rf) Black Wing Jardines and do </div> <div> have a lone female Scarlet with her mate stolen while I was in South Africa. </div> <div> I also have the Red Fronted Macaws, Blue and Gold, Hahns, Bare eyed </div> <div> Cockatoos. Most all my birds I have owned past five years up to the ten </div> <div> years I've been in business as my Greys, Rosebreast, Vosmaeri, Queens, </div> <div> Scarlets and the Hyacinthines.</div> <bR> <div> My two greatest achievements or three are ... breeding the Scarlet Macaws </div> <div> with many babies under my belt from my one pair. The Hyacinthines are </div> <div> another...as I have raised my baby since five weeks of age. Velvet is her </div> <div> name and some may remember when I even bought her and b brought her home to </div> <div> raise. I bought a mate for her when she was three...put them together and </div> <div> with her four short years had given me five babies. Velvet turned five years </div> <div> of age May 5 and gave me another baby this past Saturday, which is her sixth </div> <div> baby. This is beyond my dreams to be so successful with a wonder of birds of </div> <div> which I raised the dam, put the pair together and then have babies by </div> <div> incubation, hatching and hand raising from day 0.</div> <bR> <div> I would not let her incubate for she is just to young...but she like to do </div> <div> the wild thing with her mate...always doing the wild thing....:)</div> <bR> <div> The other accomplishment I have done is....I have a patent on a feeding </div> <div> device of which I invented, patented and still waiting for a manufacture to </div> <div> pick it up. After this last Bird Talk addition one may do just that. I have </div> <div> the patent on the Psittacines feeding device and the feeding method.</div> <bR> <div> Now for some serious talk...Please excuse me if this has been brought up </div> <div> before...If we all went out and got five breeder and brought them onto this </div> <div> list...we might be able to give two gifts to our favorite charities....:)</div> <bR> <div> I've put this on my personal post in the likelihood you already have read </div> <div> it..then you can finish your reading now...if not read on....</div> <bR> <div> Lets make breeders make a difference with the virus of PDD...and give five </div> <div> thousand dollar to the university of Georgia...and the other to DR. Jack </div> <div> Gaskin University of Florida. If this is in an agreement..I"ll go right out </div> <div> and get my five members for this list if not more. We can boost our </div> <div> membership up where Lorien will have to have assistants>>>>:)</div> <bR> <div> Lets make a difference,</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> The "Grow to Give" Program is our first ONEreach event. </div> <bR> <div> Through the "Grow to Give" Program, ONElist will donate $5,000 to each of two </div> <div> charities chosen by the two communities that grow their membership the most </div> <div> within the next two months. The community that grows the most in new and </div> <div> confirmed ONElist subscribers and the community that grows the most as a </div> <div> percentage basis of new and confirmed ONElist subscribers will each choose a </div> <div> recipient charity. ONElist will then donate $5,000 to that charity in the </div> <div> name of the community. </div> <bR> <div> All ONElist communities as of April 19, 1999 at 12:01 a.m. PDT are </div> <div> automatically participants in the "Grow to Give" Program. The program will </div> <div> run from April 19, 1999 through June 19, 1999 at 11:59 p.m. PDT. </div> <bR> <div> For full details, see the Grow to Give Program Overview. </div> <bR> <bR> <div> Replies Author Date </div> <div> 770 Re: Go and Grow LChare3208@xxx.xxx Mon 5/24/1999 </div> <div> 781 Re: Go and Grow Lorien Carrillo Mon 5/24/1999 </div> <bR> <div> Message 769 </div> <div> Reply | Forward | View Source | Unwrap Lines </div> <div> ====================================================================</div> <bR> <div> ONElist -Bird-Breeders- Messages :Message 767 -Bird-Breeders- · This list is dedicated to the breeders of exotic </div> <div> birds, such as those in the Parrot family (Amazons, Greys, </div> <div> Cockatoos, Macaws, Group Member [ Edit My Membership ] </div> <bR> <div> Messages Messages Help </div> <bR> <div> Reply | Forward | View Source | Unwrap Lines </div> <bR> <div> Message 767 | Previous | Next [ Up Thread ] </div> <div> Message Index Msg # </div> <bR> <div> From: Cherane@xxx.xxx</div> <div> Date: Mon May 24, 1999 6:38 am</div> <div> Subject: Acreage Florida Fire</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Is everyone OK from the Acreage in Florida? Can someone give a report of </div> <div> breeders in the area?</div> <bR> <div> Thanks, Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Message 767 </div> <bR> <div> =======================================================================</div> <div> ONElist : -Bird-Breeders- Messages :Message 769</div> <div> </div> <div> -Bird-Breeders- · This list is dedicated to the breeders of exotic </div> <div> birds, such as those in the Parrot family (Amazons, Greys, </div> <div> Cockatoos, Macaws, Group Member [ Edit My Membership ] </div> <bR> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div> Messages Messages Help </div> <bR> <div> Reply | Forward | View Source | Unwrap Lines </div> <bR> <div> Message 769 </div> <div> </div> <bR> <div> From: Cherane@xxx.xxx</div> <div> Date: Mon May 24, 1999 8:03 am</div> <div> Subject: Go and Grow</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> Hello everyone,</div> <bR> <div> I've been a breeder (aviculturist) since 1989...still learning. I do most of </div> <div> my own microbiology along with all my handfeeding on babies from day 0 or </div> <div> taken from the nest box at three weeks of age. </div> <bR> <div> I own all my birds and with no consignment in my home. I do own several </div> <div> pairs of specific species that are placed throughout the States. I breed </div> <div> here the large Macaws including the Hyacinthines. I also have Queens, </div> <div> Rosebreast, Greys, Vosmaeri Eclectus, Capes (P.rf) Black Wing Jardines and do </div> <div> have a lone female Scarlet with her mate stolen while I was in South Africa. </div> <div> I also have the Red Fronted Macaws, Blue and Gold, Hahns, Bare eyed </div> <div> Cockatoos. Most all my birds I have owned past five years up to the ten </div> <div> years I've been in business as my Greys, Rosebreast, Vosmaeri, Queens, </div> <div> Scarlets and the Hyacinthines.</div> <bR> <div> My two greatest achievements or three are ... breeding the Scarlet Macaws </div> <div> with many babies under my belt from my one pair. The Hyacinthines are </div> <div> another...as I have raised my baby since five weeks of age. Velvet is her </div> <div> name and some may remember when I even bought her and b brought her home to </div> <div> raise. I bought a mate for her when she was three...put them together and </div> <div> with her four short years had given me five babies. Velvet turned five years </div> <div> of age May 5 and gave me another baby this past Saturday, which is her sixth </div> <div> baby. This is beyond my dreams to be so successful with a wonder of birds of </div> <div> which I raised the dam, put the pair together and then have babies by </div> <div> incubation, hatching and hand raising from day 0.</div> <bR> <div> I would not let her incubate for she is just to young...but she like to do </div> <div> the wild thing with her mate...always doing the wild thing....:)</div> <bR> <div> The other accomplishment I have done is....I have a patent on a feeding </div> <div> device of which I invented, patented and still waiting for a manufacture to </div> <div> pick it up. After this last Bird Talk addition one may do just that. I have </div> <div> the patent on the Psittacines feeding device and the feeding method.</div> <bR> <div> Now for some serious talk...Please excuse me if this has been brought up </div> <div> before...If we all went out and got five breeder and brought them onto this </div> <div> list...we might be able to give two gifts to our favorite charities....:)</div> <bR> <div> I've put this on my personal post in the likelihood you already have read </div> <div> it..then you can finish your reading now...if not read on....</div> <bR> <div> Lets make breeders make a difference with the virus of PDD...and give five </div> <div> thousand dollar to the university of Georgia...and the other to DR. Jack </div> <div> Gaskin University of Florida. If this is in an agreement..I"ll go right out </div> <div> and get my five members for this list if not more. We can boost our </div> <div> membership up where Lorien will have to have assistants>>>>:)</div> <bR> <div> Lets make a difference,</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <div> ===============================================================</div> <div> ONElist : -Bird-Breeders- Messages :Message 824</div> <div> </div> <div> -Bird-Breeders- · This list is dedicated to the breeders of exotic </div> <div> birds, such as those in the Parrot family (Amazons, Greys, </div> <div> Cockatoos, Macaws, Group Member [ Edit My Membership ] </div> <bR> <div> </div> <bR> <div> Message 824 | Previous | Next [ Up Thread ] </div> <div> Message Index Msg # </div> <bR> <div> From: Cherane@a...</div> <div> Date: Tue May 25, 1999 7:11 am</div> <div> Subject: Re: intro</div> <bR> <bR> <div> In a message dated 5/25/99 2:32:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, </div> <div> carrillo@c... writes:</div> <bR> <div> > day, and I've actually been recruiting list</div> <div> > members, based on need. WAR is looking for an M2 breeder (experienced) to</div> <div> > talk to about some problems she's having, and I'm gonna find her one or </div> <div> more</div> <div> > if it kills me! = )</div> <div> > I've been talking to a few avian vets that have </div> <bR> <bR> <div> I"m an experienced M2 Breeder. I dont breed the most of the Cockatoos to day </div> <div> because of a lung condition. (I still have my Rosebreast (2pr.) and Bareeys. </div> <div> I'd be more then happy to assist WAR.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> Message 824 | Previous | Next [ Up Thread ] </div> <div> Message Index Msg # </div> <bR> <div> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ONElist : -Bird-Breeders- Messages :Message 870</div> <div> </div> <div> -Bird-Breeders- · This list is dedicated to the breeders of exotic </div> <div> birds, such as those in the Parrot family (Amazons, Greys, </div> <div> Cockatoos, Macaws, Group Member [ Edit My Membership ] </div> <div> </div> <div> Message 870 | Previous | Next [ Up Thread ] </div> <div> Message Index Msg # </div> <bR> <div> From: Cherane@xxx.xxx</div> <div> Date: Wed May 26, 1999 8:46 am</div> <div> Subject: Re: breeding/rescue?</div> <bR> <bR> <div> In a message dated 5/26/99 8:13:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, </div> <div> LChare3208@a... writes:</div> <bR> <div> > </div> <div> > From: LChare3208@a...</div> <div> > </div> <div> > Well, Cherane I've been around a lot longer that you have about 15 years </div> <div> but </div> <div> > </div> <div> > breeding only 11 years President of a bird club in Pa the largest by the </div> <div> way </div> <div> > </div> <div> > we have a person in the club who handles the rescue and she been doing it </div> <div> > for </div> <div> > years and was our state Rep for AFA and trust me what I've told you is </div> <div> > correct maybe you haven't seen or heard of it but it's happening.</div> <div> > </div> <div> > </div> <div> > Regards, Len</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Len, Here is my note again....I dont think I challenged your position with </div> <div> my experssing *my* experience. However, if you took it that way, consider me </div> <div> told off by you and I'll accept you know that bird owners give away pet </div> <div> birds for breeding.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> I'll never pretend to do rescue and breeding go </div> <div> in the same aviary.</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> Message 870 </div> <bR> <bR> <div> Message 870 | Previous | Next [ Up Thread ] </div> <div> Message Index Msg # </div> <bR> <div> Reply | Forward | View Source | Unwrap Lines </div> <bR> <div> </div> <bR> <div> -----------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <bR> <div> ONElist : -Bird-Breeders- Messages :Message 915 </div> <div> </div> <div> -Bird-Breeders- · This list is dedicated to the breeders of exotic </div> <div> birds, such as those in the Parrot family (Amazons, Greys, </div> <div> Cockatoos, Macaws, Group Member [ Edit My Membership ] </div> <bR> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div> Messages Messages Help </div> <bR> <div> Reply | Forward | View Source | Unwrap Lines </div> <bR> <div> Message 915 | Previous | Next [ Up Thread ] </div> <div> Message Index Msg # </div> <bR> <div> From: Dll@xxxxxx.xxx</div> <div> Date: Wed May 26, 1999 3:14 pm</div> <div> Subject: Re: breeding/rescue?/responce</div> <bR> <bR> <div> In a message dated 5/26/99 6:11:36 AM Central Daylight Time, Cherane@a... </div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> << I implore you to make up your mind which you want to do...rescue or </div> <div> breed...as a breeder in my minds eye, they do not go together. Matter of </div> <div> fact love, care, support and a life of no stress should be their walk for </div> <div> the remainder of their lives.</div> <div> </div> <div> My opinions,</div> <div> Cherane <<<<<<<<<<</div> <bR> <div> Cherane.....I do agree with you, and I understand your point of view. </div> <div> However.....I do believe that rescue and breeding do go together inso far </div> <div> that, most breeders I know have a geniune love of birds and would go out of </div> <div> there way to "rescue" a bird if needed as long as it did not endanger their </div> <div> flock. We all know that birds are social animals.....and they NEED to be </div> <div> able to BOND with someone...if that means another bird of their species so be </div> <div> it...and if they are happy and go to nest....thats wonderful..BUT....... </div> <div> going out of your way to insure that they breed is just </div> <div> wrong.........everywhere you turn you see ads.....will take your birds into </div> <div> my loving home not a breeder or a broker. If this gentleman EVER aquired a </div> <div> bird this way he could be opening himself up to a nice lawsuit. </div> <div> Just My Thoughts,</div> <div> D</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> Message 915 | Previous | Next [ Up Thread ] </div> <div> Message Index Msg # </div> <bR> <div> Reply | Forward | View Source | Unwrap Lines </div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> </div> <bR> <div> </div> <bR> <bR> <bR> </td> </tr></table></body>