suede* back in fashion
suede use plenty of make up, but def-leppard are tarts in comparison.
as the two bands file out of the lengthy, industrial strength
foundation-laying session prior to their *TFI FRIDAY* appearances,
it's
difficult not to notice the main diffrence between the two.
suede, the fey, southern fakers. walk towards the studio looking every
bit the band.
Sheffields hardest rocking combo, on the other hand, look more like
middle aged women on the pull at *ritzy's*
" ....superstar DJs! HERE WE GO!
Brushing surreally past the likes of Frank Carson and the vicar from
EastEnders to the strains
of keyboardist Neil Codling and bassist Mat Osman's best Impersonations
of The Chemical
Brothers, Suede take to the TFI Friday stage, ready to pop.
Kicking off proceedings for this week's regular exercise in ginger ego-nurturing,
the band
play current single'She's In Fashion', a song they have been rehearsing
for the past week. In
the band's crowded dressing room earlier on, frontman Brett Anderson
is trying to quash the
rumour that the song is about a certain other breakfast DJ.
"A lot of people have made the assumption that It's about Zoe Ball,"
the Suede frontman
asserts. "They've heard the line, 'She's the face of the morning show',
and took It from there, It
could be about her in a sense but it's generally about all those girls
you see on the front of
FHM. I think it's kind of obvious."
This evening will be the first time the band have played the song in
front of a live audience so
far having opted to leave the song a conspicuous absentee in the their
recent fanclub shows.
"We've never really done a song like this before," explains Brett."lt's
got a real subtle
dynamic to it and that can be difficult to get across when you play
live. It's got a real lightness
to it: you can't just do a rocked-out version like we perhaps may have
done in the past - that
would be unfair to the song. It's been quite a challenge to get that
pop feel."
Pop. It's a word that's always been used, in a variety of ways, to describe
what Suede do - but
never has It felt more appropriate than now. When Anderson stated publicly
at the time of its
inception that current album Head Music would be a "colder and less
emotional record" than
past efforts, eyebrows were raised and the point was misconstrued.
"Saying that I wanted to make a 'colder album didn't mean it would have
less feeling. I just
wanted the songs to be simpler in their approach. If anything, I'd
like the songs to get simpler
still. As you get older you see life as a simpler thing."
The three minute pop punches that made up Coming Up are even more refined
this time
around. From the straight ahead punk of'Can't Get Enough' to the nursery-like
ease in which
you can sing along to 'Elephant Man's chorus, it's an album that hasn't
sat too well with those
longing for the overblown Suede of old. Critically. much has been made
of the 'dumbing down'
of Anderson's once profound lyrics, some even suggesting the band are
taking the piss
(choice line: "She lives in a house/She's as stupid as a mouse ('Savoir
Faire').
It's an accusation Anderson views with disdain.
"I'm really disappointed with people that equate so-called'clever lyrics
with superior
music.There's this assumption that because the lyrics are deliberately
dumb, they're in some
way stupid. It's disheartening when people have so little scope that
they feel a good lyric is
something you don't understand and has to be poetic and veiled. I think
that's total bollocks."
But wasn't that something Suede were once credited for in the past?
"Maybe," he answers, "but I just hate this idea of,'Oh, that band's
so great because they stare
moodily out of a window; there's this binary equation where moodiness
and darkness
somehow equal a kind of credibility I think that's terrible. I think
some of the best lyrics are
something like that New Radicals song: "You've got the music in you"
- what a great line!
Everyone knows what it means - just a simple, great pop lyric. Better
than any stupid guitar
band singing about something they don't know anything about"
"I think a fashion develops in what you're supposed to think about a
record," interjects Mat.
"It's beyond the individual's point of perception. A lot of people
have spoken about the lyrics
on this album and their depth; the whole point of this album was that
Brett didn't want to write
lyrics like he'd done in the past - things were going to be more instinctive
and universal this
time, and I think we've achieved that."
"Obviously not everyone's got that Some people are sheep," deadpans
Brett.
As drummer Simon Gilbert walzes past, a digital camera seemingly glued
to his palm (he has
about 300 hours of Suede-vision at home, apparently), the conversation
turns to current
musical tum-ons. Special mention is reserved for Super Furry Animals
("They're the most
inventive band around with the melodies to go with it," asserts Brett),
yet, tellingly most of the
band's current favourites are within the realms of contemporary pop
and dance, rather than
the indie-rock one may expect.
"Because we're recognised as being an indie, guitar-based band, people
tend to assume
that's where our influences stem from - yet it's probably likely to
be something more like
Prince," reasons Mat"! think this record is the first one that begins
to reflect those influences;
songs like 'Savoir Faire' and 'Hi-Fi' are not traditional rock songs
- you'd never have heard us
do these sort of songs in the past."
Employing Paul Oakenfold's Perfecto sidekick Steve Osborne to produce
Head Music has
gone a long way in realising this new found sensibility Pills, Thrills
And Bellyaches (the
classic Happy Mondays album produced by Osbome) Is one of the band's
favourites.
"We'd decided we'd gone as far as we could with Ed Buller; producer
on the first three Suede
longplayers] and decided to try something new," recalls Mat.
"A lot's been made of Steve's dance credentials but the plan was never
about Suede
embracing technology and re-inventing ourselves as Fatboy Slim or whatever"
laughs Brett.
Mat explains further "Steve's dead sympathetic to the original sound
of the band. The
Mondays were a traditional group; on Pills..., although Steve probably
had great influence on
its overall sound, there's still a real sense of feel. He'll bring
out a groove rather than drop in
some inappropriate breakbeat"
"We were excited about using new stuff, keyboards, whatever" adds Brett,
"but you're in
danger of getting too involved in the technological side of things;
we'd use a sound and Steve
would disagree if he thought it confined things too much to 1999. There's
something about
rock music that has a certain timelessness to it. I think dance culture
is very much of the
moment and gets dated very quickly; I think Steve was aware of that
too."
Richard Oakes was 13 when Pills.Thrills And Bellyaches came out. He
was just 17 when he
joined Suede. Not only did he have to cope with joining an established,
older band, he also
had to replace Bernard Butler; the much lauded guitar hero who many
believed to be the
band's main talent.
At the time of Oakes' induction, cynics laughed in disbelief when Anderson
announced Suede
were "stronger than ever'.At the time,this may have seemed like unfounded
fighting talk from
a band in a desperate situation; history however appears to have rendered
the statement true.
Suede are genuinely more popular now than they've ever been. As Oakes
signs autographs
outside, along with fellow new(ish) recruit (and main focus of female
attention) Neil Codling -
bearing in mind the band's refusal to play any Butler era songs on
their recent fanclub tour -
does it feel like having been in two separate bands for the older heads?
"I suppose it does, to an extent," admits Mat "It just doesn't feel
relevant for us to play
something like 'Animal Nitrate' now, in terms of what we're about now.
I think we certainly feel
uncomfortable playing those songs"
"Now; we don't get the kick out of playing those songs anymore so we've
stopped playing them.
Through us playing a set of songs that 'this' band have actually wrote,
rather than playing what
feels like a set of covers, it makes for a better show". It's more
than a fair point. The crowd's
reaction on the recent tour suggested that the old stuff was hardly
missed. Indeed, such is the
youthfulness of the second wave of Coming Up/Codling era Suede fans,
many are probably
too young to remember the excitement that was generated when 'The Drowners'
first
appeared. The emergence of Britpop is often attributed to Suede and
it's easy to forget how
times have changed. While most indie bands in 1992 would have settled
supporting Ned's
Atomic Dustbin, Suede were looking towards taking 2 Unlimited on and
beyond.
"There was no acceptance of the sort of band we were. We weren't accepted
into the
mainstream at all. We were getting next to no airplay but we were somehow
making an
impact. Going on Top Of The Pops with 'Metal Mickey' was such a big
deal then - not just for us
but for all bands of our type," recalls Anderson."We certainly opened
doors for other bands.
We don't look for credit or respect for that but there's a lot people
that may have only recently
heard of us and it's important to know the context of how we came about.
Things were different
then," he says with mock nostalgia.
Certainly when Suede first appeared, you could hardly have ignored
them. Heralded as the
saviours of British music before their first single was even released,
the music press lapped
them up. At last, along with the fledgling Manics, here was a British
band that could
counterweight the anti-heroics and glamourless American grunge invasion.
"A lot of people thought we were an Invention of the press and that
we couldn't be any good -
which wasn't the case. Because of the amount of press attention we
received early on, people
thought it was just some hype situation going on and, yeah, perhaps
to an extent it was,"
explains Brett."But the word 'hype' implies there wasn't any substance
behind that promotion.
I think it was justified; we were a great band and, because of the
state of the music scene at
the time, we were what was needed."
Although the band have stayed true to their original roots in not shying
away from competing
with the likes of Steps (Suede have never gone 'difficult' in the way
peers such as Blur and
Pulp have), it could be argued that the Suede experience has become
somewhat diluted. From
Brett slapping his arse with his mic at the Brte in 1993, to ambivalence
towards sexuality and
drugs in their early interviews and lyrics, they divided opinion. It's
an old cliche but you did
either love or hate them - there really was no in between. With Suede
in 1999, things have
changed.The audience has certainly become broader and, where once anyone
who came in
contact with Suede had an opinion, for the first time, it appears -
Heaven forbid - people are
becoming seemingly Indifferent.
"When we first started, I wanted to piss people off. I thought that
was really important cause
everything was so complacent and conservative at the time. We came
along and stuck out
like a sore thumb. We haven't changed - it's more a case of what's
around us that has," states
Anderson."I don't think people will ever not have an opinion on Suede.
No matter what we do, I
think that there's always something about the band that always fascinates
people, both in a
good and a bad way I'm not saying people think that we're this incredibly
interesting band,
people just always seem to have a view on us. It's not something you
can get away from with
us. I don't think we're a band that brings about indifference."
"I suppose we feel less like an 'outsiders' band right now," says Mat
"We're less aggrieved by
everything these days. I've always looked upon us as being renegade
in a way, like we
crashed the party. It'd be churlish for us to say we were still outsiders
in the sense that we get
a fair amount of airplay and can be on something like TFI Friday, but
in saying we've somehow
lost our edge, I'd disagree. I'd say we're more relevant now than we've
ever been." So what
would Suede circa 1992 think of Suede now?
"I'm not sure," answers Brett. "We were less open-minded then and had
a set idea on what the
band should be about at the time, so I'm not sure if I'd have expected
us to have made a record
like Head Music. We were pretty ambitious then, so I suppose I may
have been disappointed
that we aren't bigger than we are now. But it's a difficult question..."
Ask them if they have any
regrets and you'll receive a somewhat blase shake of the head.
"We've probably been a little too honest in interviews in the past for
our own good and,
perhaps, given a bit too much of ourselves away to our fans and the
press. At the end of the day
I can't say we regret any of that to any real extent at the end of
the day."
It's this frankness that has largely resulted in the band gaining some
of their often unwanted
notoriety "It does frustrate me," admits Brett, looking somewhat forlorn,
"that people are so
fascinated by drugs that it ends up the main focus upon what they end
up writing about us. I'm
honest and open enough to talk about anything; you could say it's worked
against us at
times."
"One of the few times I have agreed with what Noel Gallagher has had
to say is when he said
that you cannot have a sensible argument about drugs in the press,"
adds Mat "No matter
what you say or how you say it, everything just becomes a soundbite."
As the band walk towards the studio, they politely pose for photographs
and chat with a bunch
of fans for ten minutes. It's an admirable sight; you sense a genuine
appreciation towards
those that, at the end of the day pay their wages. A look at one of
the band's dedicated
webpages or fanzines, however and things can become worryingly full-on
and obsessive.
Does it ever get overbearing?
"Yes, it can do - but it's something I've learned to deal with," Brett
admits. "I've always tried to
avoid having this crappy divide between the band and the fans without
it being a patronising
thing. Sometimes, people get the wrong end of the stick and expect
more - that's where it can
become difficult."
"If you're as open and as personable as us, it doesn't become too much
of a problem,"
continues Mat. "There's a lot of myths surrounding this band - that
we're this iconic,
glamourous, unapproachable band. The best way to fend off the real
obsessive types is just to
talk to them. Once we've spoken to them, it kind of shatters this image
people sometimes have
of us. We can often disappoint in that respect," he laughs.
"There's this idea of us being a glamourous bunch, but when some of
these people see the
grim reality it's'Oh, there goes Placebo'," grins Brett. "If anything,
the fans are the glamourous
ones, they always seem to make an effort. That's a big misconception
about us, that we're
smooth; It's bollocks. I'm not fucking Tony Hadley (of '80s new romantics
Spandau Ballet).
I've read all this crap about us always smooching around in Armani
which is bollocks...We
only wear Armani some of the time."
For the record, today Brett wears a pair of beige, boot-cut Levi's cords
with a matching slinky
Gabbicci jumper he may well have nicked from his dad. Def Leppard's
Joe Elliot is wearing a
full-length leopard-skin print jacket and perm. "I love this song!"
screams Chris Evans as he
introduces 'She's In Fashion', a bit of light relief on an increasingly
self-indulgent show. Right
now, at the very least, that's hardly a criticism you could level at
Suede. *