From: "Phil Roberts, Jr."[email protected] wrote: > > In article <[email protected]>, > [email protected] wrote: > > > Although I already responded to this, I should also add that status, or > > at least pecking order, can all be maintained using the ancient emotion > > of fear, rather than relying on a far more lethal means which actually > > ends up incapacitating those who become sufficiently overwhelmed with > > a sense of worthlessness. > > I don't see why 'a sense of worthlessness' cannot simply be described as > 'fear of what worthlessness means to the organism' (ie, fear of no > status, fear of no food, fear of not reproducing etc). Because fear and worthlessness are different sensations, for me at least, although fear of worthlessness (e.g., guilt) is probably the dominant motivational factor in human affairs, at least to the extent that you assume that worthlessness can be a primary motive without having to be actually present. The term for this fear is probably simply anxiety, and which, according to Nate Branden, is often mistaken for someone just having a lot of gusto for life: The percentage of people in the world who suffer from an acute form of mental or emotional disturbance is high. yet such persons constitute only a very small percentage of the total number of men and women who suffer from pathological anxiety throughout most of their lives, but whose disorder never reaches a sufficiently alarming degree of intensity to command the attention of a psychotherapist or to gain recognition in any statistical survey. These individuals would, in most cases, be regarded by those around them as quite normal and would not themselves think of questioning their psychological health merely because they are prey to fits of inexplicable, objectless apprehension. These are the persons who, for instance, cannot bear to be alone; who cannot live without sleeping pills; who jump at every unexpected sound; who drink too much to calm a nervousness that comes too often; who feel a constantly pressing need to be amusing and to entertain; who flee to too many movie they have no desire to see and to too many many gatherings they have no desire to attend; who sacrifice any vestige of independent self-confidence to an obsessive concern with what others think of them; who long to be emotional dependents or to be depended upon; who succumb to periodic spells of unaccountable depression; who submerge their existence in the dreary passivity of unchosen routines and unchallenged duties and, as they watch their years slip by, wonder, in occasional spurts of frustrated years slip by, wonder, in occasional spurts of frustrated anguish, what has robbed them of their chance to live; who run from one meaningless sexual affair to another; who seek membership in the kind of collective movement that dissolve personal identity and obviate personal responsibility -- a vast anonymous assemblage of men and women who have accepted fear as a built-in, not-to-be-wondered-about fixture of their souls, dreading even to identify that what they feel is fear or to inquire into the nature of that which they seek to escape. -- Phil Roberts, Jr. The Psychodynamics of Genetic Indeterminism: Why We Turned Out Like Captain Kirk Instead of Mr. Spock http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/dada/90/