Subject: Re: [evol-psych] Huxleyan dualism of Dawkins and EP Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 10:10:34 +0000 From: Keith SutherlandTo: David Wolpert CC: Larry Arnhart , [email protected] References: 1 , 2 In message , David Wolpert writes >Please, let us not fall for the naturalist fallacy! We must distinguish >between normative morality - how, based on logic and reasoning, we >determine that we *should* behave - from empirical morality - how, based >on natural selection, we *do* behave. The latter is the province of EP, >the former of ethics and philosophy. Whilst one would not wish to deny that philosophy and ethics is the appropriate scholarly domain for logic and reasoning, nevertheless "normative morality" is also a practical activity -- how societies organise their conduct -- and is closely linked with the survival of societies, and even the species. So philosophers and ethicists will have to admit that they don't have a monopoly interest in this field. Given that the natural homeostatic temperature of blood temperature in mammals is 98.5%F, we can deduce that mammals therefore "ought" to reside within a range of ambient temperatures derived from this biological fact. Given that EP would indicate that there is such a thing as "human nature" and this is rooted in biology, then as normative morality is one of the principal modulators of human nature, how then is the social organisation of humankind different in principle from the first, equally biological, fact? Although ethicists sometimes have the conceit to imagine that ethical and legal codes are rationally deduced, in practice -- at least within the tradition of English common law -- judges have taken a resolutely empirical approach. The very principle of "justice" is an abstraction from the very human emotion of revenge, not some arcane Rawlsian calculus. Thus law is derived from human biology, not the transcendent realm of dispassionate reasoning. One of these days philosophers are going to have to admit that the naturalistic fallacy is just a hangover from the days when it was unfashionable to believe in human nature. This will be difficult for them to accept as they might well find themselves out of a job. -- Keith Sutherland