Subject: [evol-psych] Is, ought, and Bill Hamilton Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 17:28:16 +0000 From: Andrew BrownTo: "Larry Arnhart" , [email protected] References: 1 The second volume of Bill Hamilton's collected papers is out, as Warren Sarle noticed on the list; but it has been remarkably unreviewed. This is, I think, because of the book's enthusiastic advocacy of infanticide as the least worst or perhaps the only way to avert a genetic catastrophe in the future [1]. This throws into very high relief the relationship between "is" and "ought" in a Darwinian world: there are various questions of fact -- was he right to believe that human genetic competence was threatened by modern medicine? Was he right to suppose that mothers would suffer less if their "defective" children (his favoured term) were killed before they could smile than if they grew old enough to bond? There are also questions of value: suppose that the human race is evolving to the point where most of us can't survive without modern medicine; is this such a terrible fate that really drastic measures are justified to avert it? One can see that disagreement with his facts and his values are logically separable, but if you take a broadly utilitarian calculus then the measures he thought should be taken or, as Brecht would have it, die Massnahmen, flow more or less straight for the facts and certainly become less shocking than the probable alternatives. However, I don't want to start another thrash about values. I'm interested here in one particular set of his facts: he thought that the widespread use of caesarian births was relaxing a natural selective pressure for women to have large pelvic cavities, so that, when civilisation finally collapsed (as he seems to have thought inevitable) huge numbers of women would die agonisingly in childbirth becasue they had inherited genes for narrow hips which, without caesarians, would have been eliminated from the gene pool. I was curious about this, because, as far as I knew, the decline in maternal mortality had more to do with antisepsis and the prevention of puerperal fever than anything else. So I asked a historian friend, who looked it up, and came back with the unexpected news that maternal mortality rate seems to have fallen steadily in the pre-antiseptic era. The figures, for London, of burials for women who died of "childbed" as a proportion of baptisms between 1657 and 1830 have been analysed into 50-year chunks, roughly, and they look like this (deaths / baptisms) 21 / 1000 14.5 / 1000 11.4 / 1000 9.2 / 1000 (from "English population history from famiy reconstruction. Cambridge, 1997, p308) My question for the biologists on the list is whether this is the kind of pattern and rate of change you would expect to see when genes for narrow hips are being selected out of the population? That's one of the the only three explanations that I can think of for the trend: the others are steadily increasing urban malnutrition making for lower birth-weight babies. (There was certainly increased alcohol consumption in the eighteenth century, which would have that effect) and a gradual increase in standards of midwifery and hygeine. Of course, you could have interactions of these factors: the poor have smaller babies becasue of the gin epidemic, and the rich die less often because they give birth in cleaner rooms. The exact fit of causes is probably impossible to reconstruct. But would this data fit a simple selectionist model? -- Andrew Brown Phone +44 (0)1799-516812 Fax +44 (0)1799-500726 What I do: http://www.darwinwars.com References - since this is shocking [1] NGR vol2, page xlvii "I predict that in two generations the damage being done to the human genome by the ante-and post-natal life-saving efforts of modern medicine will be obvious to all ... (p xlviii) The possibility of non-self-limiting breakdown will hold with respect to potential epidemic disease agents. to potential physical disruptions (sudden climate change, asteroid impact and the like) and with respect to the sheer physical inabilities of everyday life. (p xlix) No religion, I am glad to say has ... tried to teach me that a doe rabbit is hellbound because she eats the runt of her litter. Let us allow human trials of a like _natural_ philosophy, where if anythign there is s much more joy to be gained by it. The idea is emphatically not cruel in any ordinary sense of the word." Plenty more in the body of the book. I have only been quoting from his preface.