Subject: [evol-psych] Re: The Trouble With Self-Esteem Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 00:47:45 -0000 From: "Walter Foddis"To: [email protected] I agree with Héctor Pauchard-Hafemann that if we want to discuss self-esteem we need to be on the same conceptual page. Otherwise, we might be talking about apples and oranges. In this case, I see the apple as being "defensive" self-esteem and the orange is "secure" or "genuine" self-esteem. What I see as the real trouble with self-esteem is the issue of measurement. So the teasing apart of defensive from genuine self-esteem has been difficult with how self-esteem has been measured tradtionally, namely, using the questionnaire format. Fortunately, things are changing on this methodological front. Before describing more about these new methods of measurement, I have to mention something that perplexes me: Why does Baumeister maintain the position that "high" self-esteem necessarily leads to aggressive or hostile behavior? In my reading of him, he seems to equate narcissism with high self-esteem and this despite his ~own~ research that suggests there is no link between self-esteem and aggression (Bushman & Baumeister, 1998). >From the days of Karen Horney, theorists have attempted to articulate the differences between genuine and defensive self-esteem. For many years, it seemed only clinicians bought into this theory. However, improvements in the measure of self-esteem have been providing empirical support for this difference. That is, there is burgeoning research demonstrating that we ~can~ tease apart genuine from defensive self-esteem. For instance, there is research demonstrating that scoring high on narcissism and self-esteem scale leads to defensive behavior, behavior which those scoring low on a narcissism scale, yet high on a self-esteem scale do not exhibit. There is also research showing that those who score high on self-esteem self-report measure and high on either a scale of socially desireable responding (Lobel & Teiber, 1994) or self-deceptive enhancement (Johnson, Vincent, Ross, 1997) tend to be more defensive. Next, there is research indicating that those scoring high on a self-report, but low on an implicit measure of self-esteem are also defensive and score higher on a narcissism scale (Jordan, Spencer, & Zanna, 2001). Kernis & his colleagues (1993) have also published extensively on the differences between stable and unstable self-esteem. For instance, those who have high, yet very unstable day-to-day self-esteem are prone to defensiveness when evaluated negatively. My unpublished research (Foddis, Vander Veen, & Silverthorn, 2001) suggests that those who use insecure sources to base to their self-esteem (e.g., mood, approval from others, social comparisons), yet who score high on a self-esteem self-report scale, are prone not only to defensiveness when criticized, but also to feeling less worthy of love, much like a low self-esteem person. I posted on this topic some months ago, so for those who are interested in more detail on self-esteem measurement and my two cents on it, please see: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evolutionary-psychology/message/15619 (Subject: Re: [evol-psych] Study Reveals Self-Esteem Inflation Among U.S. Kids) Given all this, the proposed evolutionary argument that "high" self-esteem is part-and-parcel of aggressive behavior does not fit with this research. Sure, being confident and assertive is a social advantage, but that is very different from aggressive and hostile. I think we can differentiate between "aggressive" and "assertive" behavior based on these research findings. That is, the research suggests that aggressive behavior is more related to defensive self-esteem (with narcissism being an extreme form of defensive self-esteem) and assertive behavior to be more associated with secure or genuinely high self-esteem. Thoughts? Walter Foddis References Bushman, B.J. & Baumeister, R.F. (1998). Threatened egotism, narcissism, self-esteem, and direct displaced aggression: Does self-love or self-hate lead to violence? Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 75, 219-229. Foddis, W.F., Vander Veen, S., & Silverthorn, N. (2001, June). Sentence completion and self-esteem: Initial validation of an instrument and a theory. Paper presentation at the Canadian Psychological Association Annual Convention, Laval Unversity, Ste-Foye, Quebec. Johnson, E. A., Vincent, N., & Ross, L. 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