.id AA25116; Wed, 14 Dec 94 03:15:50 CST
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 03:15:49 -0600 (CST)
Subject: AIDS: Epidemic or Weapon of War? (1/3)


Thanks to a CN reader who transcribed the following.
Aids: Epidemic or Weapon of War? (1/3)
 
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The following is a transcript of a lecture given by Mr. Dave Emory in 
November, 1991. [Transcriber:  Proper names are spelled phonetically when 
unclear.]
 
                AIDS:  EPIDEMIC OR WEAPON OF WAR?
 
                                        Part I
 
        (Announcer:  Again, thank you for coming.  Here is Dave Emory.)
 
        I am going to be talking about AIDS as a biological warfare 
weapon.  One of the tapes we are going to play is a tape of an 
epidemiologist at Martin Luther King Hospital in Los Angeles talking 
about one of the aspects of AIDS that I think is completely incredible in 
terms of the original hypothesis or the accepted hypothesis.  
        I am not a physician, nor am I a microbiologist, or an 
oncologist, or geneticist, so there is a considerable body of scientific 
evidence that backs up my political theories that AIDS is a biological 
warfare weapon.  I will talk about that to a certain extent.  But it 
would be both pretentious and, frankly, intellectually dishonest for me 
to sit up here and hold forth on the scientific theory past a point, 
although I am aware of some of it.  Because I am not an expert in these 
fields, I cannot critically evaluate the information past a point.  And 
it's a safe bet that there is a lot of disinformation in this regard.  
        I am going to talk about the medical evidence to a certain extent 
and play you a tape of a physician talking about the incredible 
epidemiology of AIDS, that is to say the absolutely unbelievable way in 
which this disease has spread, if we are to accept the official version.  
But again I am going to talk about the political and historical aspects 
primarily.  
        I don't think one has to be Sherlock Holmes to detect some very 
unusual things in the way this disease has developed, and it is those 
unusual things I will be focusing on primarily.  After the break, we will 
hear a tape of  Dr. Wilbert Jordan, as I said.  And I will make people 
familiar with some of the physicians who have come up with ideas similar 
to the political theories that I have formed.  
        Also, before getting into the main body of the talk, I want to 
emphasize that there is a personal involvement with yours truly in the 
AIDS situation.  I am sorry to see that a friend of mine from San 
Francisco did not come down, because I am going to talk about a 
prediction I made in 1980.  I actually have this on the air.  I really 
was the first person to go public with this theory.  I also want to 
emphasize that a lot of people helped me with the research.  Virtually 
all of the scientific information comes from other people, so I was 
generously assisted.  But I think in the course of the progress of this 
disease and in an analysis of AIDS as a political phenomenon, yours truly 
has played a significant role.  And I want to apologize if it seems a 
little egotistical when I hypothesize about that, but I will get to that 
a little bit later.  
        Now, the thing that I want to do in the first part of the talk is 
to give a chronology, basically an accounting of the development of  
biological warfare in this country over the last fifty years or so.  
        The notion that AIDS might be a biological warfare weapon would 
seem incredible to the average American citizen.  That is unfortunate, 
because the fact of the matter is that experimenting on human beings with 
deadly diseases is something that has a very established history in the 
United States.  Many people might be familiar with the Tuskeegee study 
that was begun in the 1930s.  Some eight hundred Black Americans in 
Tuskeegee, Alabama were infected with syphilis.  They were not treated.  
This was to study how this deadly disease progressed as it went along.  
Most of them were allowed to die.  They received no treatment.  
        It should also be noted that one of the top Army chemical and 
biological warfare experts during the second World War openly boasted of 
having deliberately infected Puerto Ricans with cancer when he was doing 
experiments in Puerto Rico in the early 1940s.  In fact, he said that 
Puerto Ricans were "the most dirty, disgusting, filthy people on earth 
and that the best thing that could happen to this whole island would be 
for a tidal wave or another natural disaster to wipe it off the face of 
the earth."  And as I say, he admitted to having infected some fourteen 
Puerto Ricans with cancer.  They all died and he was very proud of that.  
So, this is not something that is alien to our culture as we consider the 
progress of the disease, as we consider unusual circumstances, how this 
disease suddenly appeared like "magic," no pun intended.  But obviously 
this is a subject that is receiving a lot of focus because of Magic 
Johnson's becoming infected with HIV.  Magic Johnson, for those of you 
not familiar with him, is arguably the best point guard ever to play the 
game of basketball.  He has focused a lot of attention on the disease.
        Now, the real story of the development of AIDS begins at the end 
of the second World War when the United States incorporated something 
called Unit 731.  Unit 731 was the Japanese chemical and biological 
warfare research center.  It was located in Manchuria.  Specifically, 
this was the most advanced chemical and biological warfare unit on the 
face of the earth.  The Japanese experimented on American prisoners of 
war, Allied prisoners of war, many of whom later died.  That did not 
trouble the people in this country past a point.  Our officials and our 
military people were very anxious to get their hands on that information 
and on some of the scientists, some of whom continue to practice medicine 
in Japan to this day.
        So what we did was incorporate some of the records and some of 
the personnel from Unit 731, despite the fact that this organization, 
this Unit of the Japanese military had experimented on Allied prisoners 
of war, including Americans, with very deadly results.  We took the files 
and the personnel from Unit 731 and they were installed in Fort Detrick, 
Maryland.  That is or was, I believe it still is, the Army's top chemical 
and biological warfare research center.  Remember the name Fort Detrick, 
because it is going to come in in a big, big way.
        Now, many of you, no doubt, are familiar with the subject of my 
last lecture here at Foothill College.  It is one of the frequent topics 
that I talk about on the air, and that is the Gehlen spy organization.  
Reinhard Gehlen was the Nazi Chief of Intelligence for the Eastern front 
during the second World War.  At the end of World War II, we brought in 
Gehlen and basically made him a four star General.  He was brought in and 
given the uniform and pay of a four star General.  His entire Eastern 
front intelligence organization was incorporated into the Central 
Intelligence Agency where it became for all intents and purposes the 
CIA's Department of Russian and Eastern European Affairs.  It was the 
sole purveyor of intelligence on that part of the world for the CIA.  It 
later became the de facto NATO intelligence organization.  After that it 
was installed as the Budis Nacree, the West German intelligence service, 
or now the German intelligence service, since there is no West/East 
Germany anymore, which it remains to this day.
        This was the vehicle for importing thousands of SS and Gestapo
veterans into the U.S. intelligence system, where some of them hold senior
positions to this day.  Many of them are war criminals of the first order. 
Many of them had participated in the brutal extermination of the Jews,
gays, and other people that Hitler wanted to get rid of.  Many of them had
also been involved in some of the brutal medical experiments which the
Germans could not get in their concentration camps.  The Germans, too,
were very accustomed to experimenting on living human beings with deadly
results in order to find out the things that they wanted to find out. 
        So we take an already on-going tradition of experimenting on
living human beings with deadly results, the same thing that was done in
the Tuskeegee study, the same thing that was done in this top Army
chemical and biological warfare doctor had done in Puerto Rico, combine it
with Unit 731, add the Gehlen organization and the German scientists
brought in under Project Paper Clip, people like Verner Von Brom, who was
a Major in the SS.  They also had a very low regard for human life and
were quite willing to achieve their intellectual goals at the expense of
their fellow human beings. 
        When you take these things and combine them, basically you have 
the blueprint for a very deadly engine.  And I believe that this engine 
got on track at the end of the second World War and it is bearing down 
upon us, not unlike those old cliffhangers, where we're all tied on the 
tracks and the engine is coming straight for us.  
        It should be noted that after the second World War, a tradition 
of experimenting on unwitting civilian subjects gathered steam, gathered 
momentum in the United States.  In the Bay Area, for example, a barge 
spewing a bacteria, a supposedly harmless bacteria, called seratia 
marsesans was towed around San Francisco Bay by the Navy for a couple of 
days.  This was done in order to see how a microorganism could be spread 
using the prevailing winds.  Seratia marsesans was supposedly a harmless 
microorganism.  To people with healthy immune systems, it is.  But to 
people whose immune systems were compromised, in particular senior 
citizens, it can be very deadly.  Seratia infection is a common cause of 
death for senior citizens.  
        It should be noted that a fellow of a father right down here at 
Stanford University sued because his father died of seratia infection 
right at that time.  Now I also want to note that the Bay Area to this 
day has the highest incidents of seratia infection in the entire world. 
There has never been a place where seratia has been found in the 
frequency that we have it right here.  
        It should also be noted that experiments were conducted in the 
New York City subway system to see how a microorganism, supposedly 
harmless again, and chemical agents again could be distributed in a 
public thoroughfare.  It should also be noted, too, that the United 
States and Great Britain jointly conducted chemical and biological 
warfare research also on unwitting citizens largely in the third world.  
We are going to come back to the U.S. and British connection a little bit 
later.
        Also, and this is very, very important, we should take note of 
the fact that one of the major foci of U.S. biological warfare research 
and chemical warfare research was to develop what is known as 
ethno-specific or culturally-specific biological and chemical agents.  
That is to say biological and chemical agents which would take advantage 
of the genetic differences and cultural and habitual differences of 
various groups, specifically to target those groups.  And that is 
something which I think looms very large in the background of AIDS 
today.  
        Now in 1962 the Department of Defense had forty geneticists 
working full-time.  It should be noted that genetics research was a major 
focus also of biological warfare research in the United States.  Now in 
1969 a Dr. McArthur was testifying before the House Appropriations 
Subcommittee.  They were trying to draw up the Defense Department Budget 
for fiscal year 1970.  Dr. McArthur had a very interesting quote.  I am 
going to play you a tape now of that quote.  By the way, at the break 
point, Paul from Archives on Audio, my trusted cohort over here, had the 
foresight and brilliance to copy this particular section of this House 
Appropriations Subcommittee tape.  So if you would like to go home this 
evening with a copy of it, Paul has characteristically prepared for this 
eventuality.  So you will actually be able to get a hold of this quote.
        Now I'm going to play a short section of Radio Free America #16 
and you'll hear what this Dr. McArthur had to say about the future of 
biological warfare and the future of genetics and genetic engineering:
        
"Continuing now with my quotations from A Higher Form of Killing:  
        
        'It is in the field of biological warfare that the most 
frightening possibilities present themselves.  It is now nearly thirty 
years since Crick and Watson made the momentous discovery of the double 
helix structure of DNA, the molecule which controls heredity.  The 
discovery has not yet, as far as is known, been applied to the business 
of war.  But in the civilian laboratories of Europe and North America, 
biologists are regularly tampering with the nature of life itself with 
gene splicing or recombinant DNA.  It has been called the most awesome 
discovery since man split the atom.  Should the breakthrough, like atomic 
physics, come to be applied to warfare, the implications scarcely bare 
thinking about.  
        As long ago as 1962 forty scientists were employed at the U.S. 
Army biological warfare laboratories on full-time genetics research.  
Many others, it was said, appreciate the implications of genetics for 
their own work.  The implications remain more specific seven years later 
when a Department of Defense spokesman claimed that genetic engineering 
could solve one of the major disadvantages of biological warfare, that it 
is limited to diseases which occur naturally somewhere in the world.'
        
        And again, the next section here is from a U.S. House 
Appropriations Subcommittee hearing for fiscal year 1969-70.  We are 
going to read you some of the complete text here in just a second.  
Listen to this statement very carefully because it is one of the keys to 
the program:  
        
                'Within the next five to ten years it would probably be 
possible to make a new infective microorganism which could differ in 
certain important respects from any known disease-causing organisms.  
Most important of these is that it might be refractory to the 
immunological and therapeutic processes upon which we depend to maintain 
our relative freedom from infectious disease.'
        
        Now one of the keys here is the definition of the word 
refractory.  Now the word refractory in medicine means to be resistant 
to.  What they are talking about here is to develop a disease that would 
be resistant to the immunological and therapeutic processes which 
normally keep us healthy.  Obviously AIDS is certainly resistant to the 
immune system.  
        Now what's interesting is another meaning of the word refractory, 
specifically in physics and biotechnology, is to break down.  A prism 
refracts light.  It breaks it into its component spectra.  A refractory 
telescope, for example, does the same thing.  Now the person speaking 
these couple of sentences is a physician, so it may be that he was 
speaking in the medical sense, in which refractory means to be resistant 
to.  On the other hand he was referring to recombinant DNA.  In the 
context of biotechnology refractory means to break down, as it does in 
physics.  So whichever of the two definitions this doctor is using here, 
what we have here is something very close to the clinical definition of 
AIDS, only we have it in a House Appropriations Subcommittee for the 
Department of Defense for fiscal year 1969 to 70, almost a full decade 
before AIDS appears to have been infiltrating the population.  And, 
again, we don't know whether refractory here means resistance to the 
immune system, as it does in conventional medicine or break down, as it 
does in biotechnology or physics.  But this is certainly an intriguing 
statement, as I said, practically the clinical definition of AIDS, only 
many, many years before the fact and coming from a Defense Department 
Appropriations Hearing.
        Now, it is also interesting to note here how the authors, Paxson 
and Harris, follow this statement.  They say:
        
        'The possibility that such a super-germ may have been 
successfully produced in a laboratory somewhere in the world in the years 
since that assessment was made is one which should not be too readily 
cast aside.'"
 
        Now that basically is a forecast of what I believe the 
authorities were working on.  You've just heard something which very 
closely approximates the clinical definition of AIDS, only this is from a 
House Appropriations Subcommittee Hearing in 1969.
        Now I'm going to begin a chronology of events that I believe to 
be very closely related and which are inextricably involved with the 
development of AIDS.  Now bear in mind, again, that this is 1969.  
        In the year 1969, a number of primate laboratories, including one 
at the University of California at Davis, not incidentally primate 
laboratories, many of which got funding from the National Institutes of 
Health, about which I will have more to say later, there was an outbreak 
of immunodeficiency disease among primates in this laboratory.  Now a 
friend of mine who is skilled in biotechnology and microbiology has said 
that the virus which was identified, and here again, I'm not on my home 
turf with some of the scientific information.  I have to trust my 
instincts and the people that I know who are competent in this area.  But 
this outbreak of immunodeficient disease in these primates was produced 
by a virus which is now called SIV, the Simian Immuno Deficiency Virus.  
This is a virus which is around today and which supposedly, well it 
actually does come from Africa.  I'll explain more about that in a 
second.  But this first occurred in primate laboratories in the United 
States.  
        Now this particular virus was discovered to have come from the 
Green Monkey in Africa.  It should be noted that there are two species of 
monkeys which are actually called the Green Monkey.  The species in 
question here is one that has long been a staple of the diet of the 
natives in that region.  The animal is captured.  It is brought into the 
market places, sold on the hoof, and then it is basically taken home, 
slaughtered, butchered, and eaten.  The notion that has been spread 
around, and I'm going to talk about the disinformation vis a vis AIDS in 
a little bit, but the notion that this disease could have come from 
Africa, and this foreshadows some of Dr. Jordan's discussion that we will 
hear in the second part of the lecture, the notion that this disease 
could have come from Africa and been infecting people in Africa is not 
only wrong, but in all probability, racist.  
        It is said that a Green Monkey bit someone in Africa and that 
this is how the disease got started.  There have been a number of other 
variations on that theme.  One of the things that makes me so suspicious, 
and I'm going to come back to this later, is that as the discussion 
concerning AIDS as a biological warfare weapon has progressed, there have 
been theories tossed out by the medical community, which I believe have 
been deliberately concocted in order to cover up the true origin of the 
disease.  Obviously that's my theory, but I will get to that in a minute.
        In any event, this particular virus which is native to the Green 
Monkey does not hurt the Green Monkey.  One of the interesting things I 
have learned as I've been studying AIDS, is I've come to appreciate how 
absolutely beautiful nature can be, that is to say when human beings 
aren't screwing it up deliberately, which unfortunately they do.  One of 
the interesting things about viruses and virology is that most viruses 
mutate in such a way as to become symbiotic with their host.  That is to 
say they mutate genetically very readily.  Most viruses mutate to the 
point where they do not hurt their host.  This benefits the virus because 
the virus is not then attacked and destroyed by the immune system of the 
host.  And obviously this benefits the host, too, because the host does 
not get sick.  
        The SIV virus is native to the Green Monkey and it does not hurt 
the Green Monkey.  It hurts Macaques, a different primate and that is the 
primate in the U.S. laboratories which became infected and acquired 
immunodeficiency disease.  The SIV is very important because we are going 
to come back to that later.
        Now we are still in 1969.  We are going to jump ahead to calendar 
year 1971.  In that year under President Nixon's administration, Fort 
Detrick, the Army's top chemical and biological warfare research center, 
was largely turned over to the National Cancer Institute, one of the 
National Institutes of Health, many of which have been funding these 
primate laboratories which had this outbreak of immunodeficiency disease 
in these Macaques.  Now, although Fort Detrick was turned over to the 
National Cancer Institute and supposedly became a civilian institution, 
it should be noted, and this is in Radio Free America #16, that the 
National Cancer Institute's Frederick facility, which is Fort Detrick, 
their molecular oncology research center was run for them by Litton 
Biomedics.  It is a wholly owned biotechnology subsidiary of Litton 
Industries, a major contractor and also a major vehicle for covert 
operations.  
        1967 there was a CIA coup which installed a fascist government in 
Greece, and overthrew the legitimate government.  Litton Industries was a 
major vehicle for the various machinations involved with that coup.  So 
in 1971 we have Fort Detrick supposedly going civilian and being turned 
over to the National Cancer Institute, but it is run for the National 
Cancer Institute by Litton Biomedics, which contracts to run the NCI 
facility.  
        It should also be noted that co-habiting the Frederick research 
facility for the National Cancer Institute at this point is the Army's 
Institute of Infectious Diseases.  That is a military facility which 
continues to do research on biological warfare, supposedly for defensive 
purposes.  But that is an academic consideration because there is no 
effective distinction between offensive and defensive research.  
        Now we are in 1971 still.  We are going to jump ahead to 1974.  
In 1974, the publication of the Army's Institute of Infectious Diseases, 
which bear in mind is co-habiting Fort Detrick with the National Cancer 
Institute at this point, first uses the term Acquired Immune Deficiency.  
That term first appeared in the bulletin of the Army's Institute of 
Infectious Diseases as far as I have been able to determine.  Myself and 
others who have done this research have not been able to identify that 
term, Acquired Immune Deficiency, in scientific literature prior to that 
time.  
        Now this is 1974.  We're going to jump ahead now to the late 
1970s.  In the 1970s Hepatitis B, a very dangerous and infectious disease 
was epidemic in the United States, in particular, among gays.  Now there 
was research done to develop a Hepatitis B vaccine.  This vaccine had 
some trial runs on gays in various North American cities, primarily New 
York, Los Angeles, and San Francisco.  
        It should be noted that only very promiscuous homosexuals were 
permitted to take part in the Hepatitis B vaccination trial runs.  The 
fellow who ran the Hepatitis B vaccination program was a Polish born 
physician, actually I believe he was Ukrainian, named Wolf Szmuness.  The 
biography of Wolf Szmuness suggests very strongly that Wolf Szmuness was 
a spook, a spy, and in all probability, tied in with the Eastern Front 
Division and the Soviet Union Division of the CIA, translate Gehlen.  He 
had been imprisoned as a political prisoner by Stalin, somehow was 
released.  The travels of Dr. Szmuness and that way he was able to get 
appointments when he was almost new to the various countries he lived in, 
he lived in Italy for a while, strongly suggest that he is an 
intelligence agent or working for an intelligence agency of some kind.  
        It should also be noted that in the late 1950s, he was the 
roommate of a young Polish priest named Carrol Woytola, now, of course, 
Pope John Paul II.  Pope John Paul II is an interesting fellow, too.  
This is somewhat peripheral, but it may be relevant.  His rise within the 
Vatican was largely due to a lay Catholic Order called Opus Dei, which 
has extremely reactionary political views.  It was founded by a Spanish 
priest named Father de Scriva de Balagaya, who was openly pro-fascist.  
He was an ardent supporter of Francisco Franco, the fascist dictator of 
Spain.  It should also be noted that the Pope was also supposedly a slave 
laborer at some of the slave labor camps at Auschwitz.  But in 1982 when 
the Vatican banking scandals broke, one of the people brought in by Pope 
John Paul II to help straighten out the mess was a fellow named Hermann 
Abbs.  In fact, Hermann Abbs, there was an article in the papers about 
him recently.  He is publishing his memoirs.  He is being hailed as one 
of the architects of the "new" Germany.  Well, Hermann Abbs was chairman 
of Duotche Bank, one of the top commercial banks in Germany during the 
Hitler period and today.  He also was a member of the Board of Directors 
of I.G. Farben.  It was Hermann Abbs who put forth the venture capital to 
build the slave labor camps around Auschwitz where the Pope worked 
supposedly as a slave.  I suspect he was actually a labor capo.
        So we have Pope John Paul II, the roommate and close friend of 
Wolf Szmuness bringing in his slave master to handle his finances.  Well, 
if I had been a slave and I had some financial problems, I wouldn't bring 
in my slave master to handle my financial problems for me.  But, then 
again, I'm not the Pope, so what do I know.  
        Now, it should be noted that in the late 1970s Wolf Szmuness is 
running the Hepatitis B vaccination program.  And it should be noted that 
only promiscuous gays are to be allowed to participate in the program.
        Dr. Alan Cantwell in his book, AIDS and the Doctors of Death, has 
proposed that it was through Hepatitis B vaccination program, and I find 
his evidence compelling, that gays were deliberately infected with AIDS.  
It should be noted that the first AIDS cases are generally believed to 
have surfaced among American gays in calendar year 1979.  Now bear in 
mind this is ten years after 1969, of course.  And it was in l969 that in 
that House Appropriations Subcommittee Hearing for the Defense budget for 
fiscal 70 it was forecast that within the next five to ten years it 
should be possible to make a disease like AIDS.  
        Now in 1980 Ronald Reagan was running for President of the United 
States, successfully, obviously and unfortunately.  One of the main 
boosters, one of the main weapons in his political arsenal was the 
Christian right, the former Moral Majority and others.  The Moral 
Majority was openly advocating in 1980 capital punishment for 
homosexuals.  
        It should be noted, too, that on Labor Day weekend in 1980, my 
friend Josh, who is gay and who I'm sorry to say is not here tonight, we 
were doing some book shopping in downtown San Jose.  A friend of his, 
also gay, lived nearby.  So we stopped off and had a couple of glasses of 
wine with this fellow.  I, being the veteran political war horse that I 
am and the indomitable will that I think I am, was encouraging this 
individual to get politically active.  
        Now we're talking Labor Day weekend in 1980 when Reagan kicked 
off his campaign in Philadelphia, Mississippi, where incidentally three 
civil rights workers were brutally slain by the Ku Klux Klan in 1964.  I 
think Reagan was sending a message to his constituency.   
        But on Labor Day weekend of 1980 I told this fellow that he 
should become active.  I made the prediction, I said, "If Ronald Reagan 
gets elected President of the United States, the gays are going to be 
wiped out."  He said, "Well, you know, I'm not into politics," which he 
wasn't.  I encouraged him, perhaps more forcefully than I should have.  
Josh got kind of upset with me.  We smoothed things over, but he said I 
had been rude and that I shouldn't have tried to jolt the guy out of his 
lethargy under the circumstances. 
        Well, there is a footnote to that particular story.  Josh called 
up my program about a year and a half ago.  I brought up that particular 
conversation.  I asked him what had happened to his friend, Dave.  He 
said he hadn't seen Dave in a couple of years, but that when he did see 
him, he was deadly ill with AIDS.  So in all probability, he is dead 
now.  I'm not trying to gloat over something like that.  It certainly 
saddens me, but I think it is something that might be born in mind as you 
listen to my predictions about the future.  They might seem a little 
grim.  They might seem a little incredible.  You might want to think 
about what happened to this fellow Dave as an example and take an 
advisory from his situation.
        Now bear in mind we are still in 1980.  Ronald Reagan is running 
for President of the United States.  The Moral Majority is calling for 
capital punishment for homosexuals.  It should be noted, too, in this 
context that in Weimar Germany, there was a very active gay rights 
movement.  A fellow named Magnus Herschfeld was very active in promoting 
gay rights in Weimar Germany.  It should be noted that as I covered in 
the program The Pink Triangle, I borrowed from the Richard Plant book by 
the same name, the issue of gay rights and homosexuality was used very 
effectively by the German Nazi Party to tar all of progressive politics.  
They were portrayed as homophiles and all sorts of nasty terms.  
Homosexuality was used by the Nazi Party to tar their political 
opponents, individually and collectively.  
        It should also be noted that gays were among the very first 
victims of the Nazi extermination programs.  They had to wear pink 
triangles, whereas the Jews had to wear a yellow Star of David.  This 
made the Nazi extermination program much more palatable, from a 
psychological sense, to the German people.  They had grown accustomed to 
seeing gays, a traditional out-group, being liquidated.  So when it came 
time to liquidating other groups, there was already a very useful precedent.
        I see a very strong analogy in this country between the way the 
Christian right and the right wing in general uses gay rights to tar 
progressive politics and the way it was used in Weimar Germany.  In late 
1981 there was publicity about the first AIDS cases.  It is believed that 
in the United States AIDS first broke in 1979.  There is disinformation, 
which I'm going to talk about later.  But in late 1981, there is the 
first publicity about AIDS in the United States.  Kaposi's Sarcoma, a 
rare form of cancer, was being found among gays, primarily in Los 
Angeles, San Francisco, and New York, the same area where Wolf Szmuness 
has conducted the Hepatitis B vaccination programs with, bear in mind, 
only promiscuous gays, only promiscuous homosexuals.
        Next we're going to jump to 1983, Dr. Wolf Szmuness dies of 
cancer.  Maybe it was a natural cancer.  God knows those happen.  Maybe 
his karma finally caught up with him.  But one of the things I wonder 
about is that as AIDS began to develop, I wonder whether he had been 
assassinated with cancer.  It is a matter of record that the CIA and the 
Defense Department had by 1954 perfected a means of giving people cancer 
as a means of assassination.  It's a safe bet that in the 1980s and 90s, 
given the advances in medical technology, those techniques are far more 
advanced now.
        Now in 1983 Wolf Szmuness dies of cancer.  Next we are going to 
jump to the Spring, 1984, April specifically of 1984, Dr. Robert Gallo of 
the National Cancer Institute.  Now bear in mind Fort Detrick was turned 
over to the National Cancer Institute, although it continued to co-habit 
the facility with the Army's Institute of Infectious Diseases.  And bear 
in mind that Fort Detrick was NCI's molecular oncology research 
facility.  Molecular oncology refers to the producing of cancer at the 
molecular level.  An oncogene is a gene that produces cancer.  Molecular 
oncology is the study of that at the molecular level.
        In 1984 Robert Gallo of the National Cancer Institute has a press
conference with Margaret Heckler, the Secretary of Health, Education, and
Welfare.  They announced that they had discovered the cause of this dread
disease which had spread considerably by this time.  This was first
identified as a virus known as HTLV3, which Dr. Gallo said had evolved
from the HTLV1, Human T-cell Lymphoma Virus 1.  This is extremely
unlikely.  One of the reasons that it in all probability did not evolve
from this particular virus is that there is only a five percent degree of
homology between the HTLV1 and the HTLV3.  In other words, only five
percent of its genome, its genetic material, is similar to that of the
HTLV3.  That means that basically we are to believe the first official
version of AIDS, now bear in mind there have been several since and I'm
going to go into those, that means that this one virus has to have
spontaneously mutated ninety-five percent of its genetic material.  That
is extremely unlikely. 
        Now in June of 1984 I produced on One Step Beyond the very first 
public information suggesting, pointing out the National Cancer Institute 
links, suggesting that AIDS might in fact be a biological warfare weapon, 
given the history of testing on civilian populations.  I produced this 
for the One Step Beyond show.  At that point Nip Tuck was the host of One 
Step Beyond.  I put together the prepared portion for him and I did the 
Hard Rain and Radio Free America shows, but it was simply too much 
trouble to do two broadcasts a week and one a month.  So eventually the 
programs merged and eventually Nip Tuck went to pursue his literary career.
        This is June of 1984.  Dave Emory comes up with the first 
information suggesting that AIDS might be a biological warfare weapon.  
In July of 1984, the National Security Agency reclassifies the files of 
the National Cancer Institute "Top Secret," which is unusual.  You would 
expect that with this disease growing with the priority on fighting this 
disease growing that the files of the National Cancer Institute would be 
opened up to permit research.  Not so.  In July of 1984, three months 
after the AIDS virus is discovered, the files of the National Cancer 
Institute were reclassified "Top Secret," which they are, as far as I 
know, to this day.  
        Now in late 1984, I am going to introduce a conjectural element, 
it was one of the most unpleasant experiences of my life and I've had a 
number of them.  It's something oddly enough, which, if my hypothesis is 
correct, it is something I'm very proud of, but it's something that, 
frankly, scared the you know what out of me at the time.  In December of 
1984 I was producing the Hard Rain series on AIDS, several programs.  A 
listener who monitors short-wave sent me a post card saying that Radio 
Moscow in late December of 1984 had a broadcast which said that basically 
one of the only Americans working for peace was David Emory who has done 
much to control biological and psychological weapons.  At the time I was 
also working on the Radio Free America #5, #6, and #7 series having to do 
with mind control.  The only work I have ever done on biological warfare 
is AIDS.  
        Now one of the methodological considerations, one of the major 
methodological tools of Soviet propaganda has been to use Western sources 
in their information.  I should note that I have no grief for the late 
Soviet Union, which doesn't even exist anymore.  But it is worth noting 
that Soviets in their propaganda have traditionally used Western 
journalistic sources.  Many of you, perhaps, have seen the movie Dr. 
Strangelove.  If you haven't seen it, it's a really fine movie.  But at 
one point, the Soviets and the American high command and the President 
are discussing how to shoot down some American bombers which had been 
dispatched by a mad general to begin World War III.  The Soviets have 
revealed that they have a doomsday machine, which if attacked, will 
automatically blow up the whole world.  So at one point, I believe it was 
Peter Sellers playing the President of the United States, he asks 
Ambassador Kissoff, the Soviet Ambassador, he says, "Ambassador Kissoff, 
where did you first learn about the doomsday machine?"  Kissoff goes, 
"From the Western press."  So it is a common technique.
        In late 1984 Radio Moscow identifies David Emory.  Now there was 
also a former Republican Senator from Maine named David Emory, who was 
involved with anti-nuke activity, but I don't think he was doing much 
about biological and psychological weapons.
        It should also be noted that the Silicon Valley, being the 
epicenter of the defense electronics industry, is an area of high 
strategic importance and one of great interest to the Soviet Union.  No 
Soviets were allowed within something like a forty or fifty mile radius 
of this area.  Although it would certainly be easy for Soviet or other 
intelligence to pick up a radio signal coming from that area.  I don't 
know if I'm the David Emory that they were referring to, but I suspect 
that may very well be the case.  The reason that is the case is that in 
1985 the Soviet Literary Gazette began a campaign as identifying AIDS as 
a U.S. biological warfare weapon.  I want to take note of the fact that I 
began doing that in June of 1984, so I'm not parroting Soviet 
propaganda.  It is my suspicion that the Soviets have been parroting 
yours truly.  Radio Moscow, I've only heard it a couple of times.  It's a 
pretty bad act if you've ever heard it.  It's about as shabby as most of 
the rest of the country is at this point.  But it should be noted that 
the Soviets in 1985 the Soviet Literary Gazette begins its first public 
announcement of the Soviet propaganda campaign, pinning AIDS on the 
United States as a biological warfare weapon.
        Also in 1985, a Ugandan Carposi's Sarcoma expert named Dr. Ann 
Bailey voices in a New York Times article the opinion that she's 
surprised that no one has ever thought to identify AIDS as the result of 
a genetic engineering accident.  So she was thinking along much the same 
lines I was.  I don't think it was an accident at all.  I think that it 
was deliberately created.
        It should also be noted that as we jump ahead to 1986, in 
February of 1986, and I'm going to play this tape of the reading of this 
article in the second part of the program, a terrifying proposal was made 
by various right wing institutions, including the Hoover Institute and 
various military related institutions which had been involved in 
biological warfare research to begin quarantining people who were 
infected with AIDS or who were at high risk, HIV positive or high risk, 
because it was their feeling that the disease might be casually spread.  
This was being used at the time, and it's worth noting that this has been 
defeated, at least for the time being, as a pretext for drastically 
reducing civil liberties in the United States.  We are going to hear 
about that later as I hypothesize about why such a disease might have 
been created.
        But we're in February of 1986 at this point.  In April of 1986, I
produced Radio Free America #16, the Archive show on AIDS called, AIDS: 
Epidemic or Weapon of War?, not coincidentally, the title of this
particular lecture.  Now also in 1986 after there has already been
considerable discussion of the theory that AIDS is a biological warfare
weapon, the first of a number of what I believe to be deliberately false
theories about the origins of AIDS or pinpointing the origin of AIDS
began.  There was an article which identified a fellow that had died in
1959 in Great Britain, supposedly of AIDS.  Also there was an article
which said that a boy in St. Louis died in 1969. 
        This seems virtually impossible from an epidemiological 
standpoint, because frankly, how did they get the disease?  This is 
supposed to be a sexually-transmitted and blood-borne disease.  Where did 
it come from?  It is also extremely unlikely that a disease this deadly 
and of this kind could have been present in the population and not been 
detected, the reasons for which we will hear Dr. Jordan talk about a 
little later.  It is my belief, and I can't prove it, but that the 
already considerable discussion underway in 1986 about AIDS as a 
biological warfare weapon occasioned this disinformation effort of 
pinpointing AIDS as far back as 1959.  
        If the disease was present, it almost certainly would have been 
detected, particularly if it was present in an industrialized nation like 
Great Britain or the United States.  We are going to hear Dr. Jordan talk 
about how thoroughly health matters are monitored in the third world.  
They are monitored there very effectively, even though health care is not 
good there.  They are monitored much more closely in industrialized 
nations.  So it seems virtually impossible that this disease could have 
infected one person in Britain and one person in the United States ten 
years later.  Where did they get it from?  Was it blood-borne?  Was it 
sexually transmitted?  And how come nobody else was discovered with this 
disease?  Now bear in mind there has been research being done on AIDS for 
five years publicly at this point.  And all of a sudden they go, "Woops!  
Look what we found going all the way back when!"  It is extremely 
unlikely under the circumstances.  I suspect that this information was 
deliberately concocted in order to combat the research that was being 
done into the theory of AIDS as a biological warfare weapon.
        Now we have August of 1986.  In August the Defense Department 
Official named Douglas Feith is quoted in an article published in the 
Washington Post on August 18, which was also carried in the San Francisco 
Chronicle, in which he says that due to the advances in genetic 
engineering in the last five to ten years, a similar time period that we 
heard in 1969 when they were casting ahead, in 1986 due to the advances 
in genetic engineering in the last five to ten years, AIDS first detected 
in American gays in 1979, the Defense Department was re-evaluating and 
had come to a different conclusion concerning the viability of biological 
warfare.  
        Now biological warfare had been shunned as a really practical 
means of waging war for the simple reason that the motive for waging war 
is economic gain and territorial gain.  If you spread a bunch of wee 
beasties around to infect the enemy troops and make them get sick and 
die, well, there is no guarantee that when your troops occupy the 
territory that they're not going to sicken and die also.  So for this 
reason biological warfare had not been deemed to be particularly 
effective under the circumstances.
        However, remember that one of the major foci of the U.S. 
biological warfare research program had been to develop ethno- and 
culturally-specific biological warfare agents.   In August of 1986, 
Douglas Feith says that we've now re-evaluated our assessment of how 
viable biological warfare is due to the advances in genetic engineering 
in the last five to ten years, language unnervingly similar to that which 
Dr. McArthur had forecast ahead in 1969, ten years before AIDS was first 
detected in American gays.
        Now it should also be noted that in late 1986 a number of 
officials quit from the Centers for Disease Control because they said 
that the Center for Disease Control was deliberately covering up 
information which would permit AIDS to be combatted.  Specifically there 
was information developed by the CDC that non-oxynol nine, a common 
ingredient in the spermicides which are used with a contraceptive 
diaphram, would kill the AIDS virus in sixty seconds.  Yet this 
information was being deliberately suppressed.  One of the questions I 
have is why that information was being deliberately suppressed.  Was it 
because they wanted the disease to spread?  Or it may very well have been 
because the medical industry wanted to continue to rake in the big bucks, 
which they continue to do, in order to develop a more sophisticated and, 
not incidentally, expensive cure.  That may be one of the reasons why 
AIDS has not spread into the heterosexual population as rapidly as it 
has, although it is now beginning to do so.  
        By the way, AIDS has been renamed HIV because a number of people 
have criticized the notion that HTLV3 could have come from HTLV1.  
Ninety-five percent of its genome, its genetic material is different.  So 
you are looking at the spontaneous generation of ninety-five percent of 
its genetic material, which seems extremely unlikely.  
        An East German physician named Dr. Yakov Siegel in a paper drawn 
largely from Western medical sources has pointed out that it appears that 
the AIDS virus was partly developed from the Medi Visna  Vishnu virus, a 
virus which effects sheep.  He concluded from a mathematical standpoint, 
given the number of genes that would have to have spontaneously mutated, 
and he pointed out the very close relationship with the Medi Visna  
Vishnu virus.  He believes that HIV1 was a splicing of part of the genome 
of the HTLV1 with the Medi Visna  Vishnu virus.  But he said that the 
mathematical odds against HIV1 being a spontaneous mutation from the Medi 
Visna  Vishnu virus was one in six times ten to the eighty-second power.  
        Now, those are pretty long odds.  I don't think you would want to 
go up to Vegas or Reno or Tahoe and let your bank roll ride on that.  
Maybe you will.  Maybe you want to have unprotected sex, too, with a 
stranger, but the odds are about the same.  I wouldn't advise either of 
them.        
        Now in late 1986 a second variant of the HIV is found in Africa.  
Here again, I'm relying on the information provided to me by scientific 
and medical people.  I cannot critically evaluate it, so you should take 
what I say with a grain of salt.  But I think what I'm about to say is 
very, very important and should be investigated.  HIV2 is identical to 
simian immuno virus.  Now bear in mind that's a virus which is native to 
the Green Monkey of Africa.  It does not hurt the Green Monkey.  But when 
it turned up in Macaques in primate laboratories associated with the 
National Institutes of Health, it produced simian immunodeficiency 
syndrome.  Well the SIV is identical, according to people whose opinions 
I trust.  They may be wrong, so you want to take this with a grain of 
salt.  It is identical to HIV2 except for a piece of genetic material 
called a stop codon placed directly in the middle of one gene.  
        Now a stop codon basically functions according to my information 
in a manner analogous to the period in a sentence.  It instructs your 
genes to stop reading one amino acid sequence and to begin reading 
another.  The notion that this could have been a spontaneous mutation, a 
random act of mutogenic agents in the environment is very, very, very 
difficult to accept.  This is in the opinion of those who have done the 
research the smoking gene because the HIV2 discovered in Africa in late 
1986 is almost identical with the simian immuno virus, bear in mind, 
native to the Green Monkey, except that this stop codon is placed right 
in the middle of one gene, suggesting almost certainly that somebody knew 
where to place this particular piece of genetic material.
        It should be noted there are many mutogenic agents, chemicals, 
x-rays, things of this kind.  They would alter genetic material in a 
random fashion.  Most adaptations are maladaptive.  That is to say they 
either weaken or destroy the organism.  Adaptive mutations are relatively 
rare, so the SIV and the HIV2 are virtually identical except for this one 
"period," the stop codon placed in the middle of the gene.
        Now we are going to jump ahead to 1987 when the American far 
right begins a campaign to counteract what they see as a very effective 
Soviet propaganda campaign, basically pinning AIDS on the United States 
as a biological warfare weapon.  That is my belief as well.  There was an 
article in the San Francisco Sunday Examiner This World Magazine by an 
ultra-right wing activist and propagandist named Roy Dodson, in which he 
said that generally Soviet propaganda is not very effective.  Generally 
it is shallow and doesn't have too much effect.  But the Soviet 
propaganda campaign about AIDS being developed by the United States was 
being very effective and that citizens in third world countries in 
particular were making it a point to avoid Americans and American 
military personnel.  It was causing the United States a lot of problems.  
This is early 1987.
        Now it should also be noted, and I'm sorry I can't give you the 
name of the individual, but my files were seriously disrupted in the 
earthquake of 1989.  I had to move a bunch of material into a storage 
area and I have not had a chance to put this information on tape at this 
point.  But this special White House advisor on biotechnology policy, his 
name I do not know off the top of my head, I tried to find the article in 
my storage area, but that thing is heaped half way up and it's not the 
easiest thing to find, but he resigned his post as White House 
biotechnology advisor because of a conflict of interest.  Now this 
conflict of interest was that he was also very much involved with a 
company called Porton International.  Porton International is located at 
Porton Down in Great Britain, which was Britain's top biological and 
chemical warfare research center.   Just like Fort Detrick it was largely 
turned over to supposedly civilian authorities.  Porton International, 
which this guy was very close to and involved with, was also a facility 
or company which had moved onto an old biological warfare research 
center.  
        In 1987 the media battle about AIDS as a biological warfare 
weapon was joined in a big way.  The summer issue of Covert Action 
Information Bulletin for 1987 carried a long series of articles as a 
biological warfare weapon, but they did not go as far as it might have.  
        In 1988 the intermediate range missile treaty was concluded 
between the Soviet Union and the United States.  This basically meant 
that the United States would destroy its intermediate range missiles in 
Europe.  The Soviet Union would do the same.  It was precisely at this 
time that the Soviets agreed to drop their propaganda campaign concerning 
AIDS as a U.S. biological warfare weapon.  I cannot prove anything, so 
this is conjecture.  But I suspect that given the American right's and 
the American military's concern about the effectiveness of the Soviet 
Union propaganda campaign that one of the quid pro quo in this particular 
intermediate range missile agreement's sub rosa element was that the 
Soviets would knock off this propaganda campaign at the same time.  So if 
that broadcast on Radio Moscow alluding to David Emory having done much 
to control biological weapons was what I suspect it may have been, a way 
of backing off the CIA by using my research, it is within the realm of 
possibility, and this is not to be egotistical, but this may very well 
have something to do with it, but I was basically used as a pawn in one 
of the greatest games ever played.  It was not something that I felt very 
good about.  When I first read this communication about the Radio Moscow 
broadcast, I was one depressed puppy because here is the KGB using me to 
back off the CIA.  It was sort of like trying to break up a bar fight 
between these two enormous giants, saying, "Now, boys, let's be nice."  I 
didn't feel too good about it.  I was pretty depressed.  But it is within 
the realm of possibilities that I was used as a pawn in this enormous game.
        I'm going to end my chronology at this point.  We are going to 
take a break and I'm going to come back and I'm going to talk about some 
of the medical evidence, some of the scientific evidence in connection 
with AIDS as a biological warfare weapon, which I believe it is.  And we 
are going to listen to some tapes.  And the third section, we probably 
won't take a break, I'm going to talk about why I feel this was being 
done.  So we are going to take a break and then more of the lecture.


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