ChAoS wrote: <CULT
OF ECSTACY: They want to excape from the static mundanity of
everyday life. I understand that but have trouble linking the party life
to it since college parties occur
so often and all involve drinking, etc they all seem mundane and the static
way of doing things.>
That's the thing,
though -- they don't want to ESCAPE from everyday life, they want to get
in DEEPER. The philosophy of ecstasy teaches that there is nothing that
is not divine, nothing that is "Mundane". So there's nothing to escape
from, it's just a matter of getting a better set of eyes so you can see
the whole thing better. What you refer to as the "mundanity of everyday
life" is, to the ecstatics, a great big stale lie that lays like a blanket
over most of this glorious, beautiful, wondrous reality. And here's where
I make a quip about how much ecstatics like to get under the blankets.
As for your trouble
linking the ecstatic philosophy to the college-type party life... that's
a misunderstanding that is unfortunately common, a stereotyping that has
resulted in a bad rep for the ecstatics in the WoD and IRL. The thing is,
most of those college-partier types wouldn't have much of a chance at becoming
an ecstatic -- if for no other reason than that, for the most part, they
have already given up on the joy of everyday life so much that they are
willing to obliviate themselves to escape it. This is anathema to everything
an ecstatic embraces; they hate the philosophies of oblivion about as much
as the witches do. And you're exactly right, all those parties manage
to do is heap up the stale lie of mundanity into big piles, wherein little
flickers of nihilism blossom, spread, then shrink and fade back into mundanity...
but this time with residual vomit and a hangover. Whee.
Anyway, I think that
the main point of ecstaticism is hey, there really aren't any limits, there's
no evil to worry about, and reality is a beautiful, wonderful, exciting
place. You just hafta see it for what it is, instead of what people tell
you it iw, or what they want it to be. Kindof like Taoism without the Buddhism.
Trust the Way, all is well, breathe you are alive, enjoy it while you've
got it. Don't be a square. =)
Hey, I forgot to add
that Pan (one of the faces of the Trickster from my "witches" post) was
also called the Nameless One, indicating that because he had no name, he
had no true form, and while this meant he had no limits it also meant he
had no discipline or structure. And "the Nameless Ones" is a shamanic
term for the Marauders. Those who have lost thier defining borders...
NOTABLE ECSTATIC
SOCIETIES
Ecstatics do have a few actual vaguely structured societies, despite their
scattered and disorganized nature, being the least structured of all the
Primal Mages. Their societies are invariably loose and mostly unwilling
to impose restrictions or traditions on their members; they are mostly
large associations of mages bound by cultural ties or similar interests.
Remember, a "Society" must be larger than a single group or cabal of mages,
so though there are dozens of ecstatic pagan covens and cliques of artists,
to be a Society there must be at least two or three groups that have shared
a common goal and common structures for a significant amount of time.
Also, though some of these societies may have the trappings of other Primal
Mages, such as the pagan Dionysians and Astartians or the shamanic Brujeria
-- or they may even have similarities to entirely different Stylists, such
as the Aesculapians' ties to Hermeticism -- but the uniting factor that
binds the ecstatics into one group is their passionate belief in breaking
out, up, away from the old and the static. Going beyond, transcending,
expanding...limitation and restriction are the only sins, experience leading
to bliss is the only goal. That is the ecstatic way.
FAMOUS ECSTATIC GATHERING-PLACES
BACKGROUNDS
& ABILITIES
Dream, Music,
MISCELLANEOUS
DOCUMENTS
unamerican
-- SEE THIS SITE
The Time-Sphere page
The Ecstatic Paradigm
CoE Spheres
Drugs in Mage
Drug Culture Throughout
History
The
Kama Sutra -- The Art of Love
Persiankitty -- Paradigm-shattering
pix or mind-numbing porn? You decide... but then, that's the point, ain't
it?
A History of the Cult
An Acolyte's Opium-Dream
"In My World of Dreams" -- a poem by Marcus
Watersoul, Durango Ecstatic and a good friend
Anders Sandberg's Cultist Theurgy
PERIPHERAL ECSTATIC GROUPS
Musicians
Artists
Movements
Subcultures
ECSTATIC FOCI
ECSTATIC REALMS
BALADOR
ECSTATIC
ROTES (?)
ChAoS wrote: <VERBENA:
All I know is that they are blood and sex. I cannot picture a paradigm
that revolves around that.>
Well, first I'll just say that YOU are
"blood and sex". Everyone is. We are all beings of animal flesh and blood,
and we are all crerated through sexuality, the sacred mingling of bodily
fluids. And we all have those desires and biological feelings. We don't
often like to think about it, especially in these societies that are still
frozen and stiff from the numbing ideas of the puritans, who told everyone
that blood was dirty and foul, and that sex was evil. The very things of
life, the things of which which we are made! Self-hating revulsion. Sacrilege
and betrayal of oneself, characteristic of the intentional, blind march
toward oblivion that those sorts of minds have always tended toward. And
that is exactly what the witches are against -- oblivion. Especially oblivion
of the Self, which is the seat of all that is sacred. Blood is a reminder
that we are, if nothing else, animals -- meat and instinct and passion
and desire. And they are fools who seek to destroy desire, who seek to
transcend meat. That is PART of us, part of what and who we all are, and
we diminish ourselves in calling it evil or even valueless.
But one cannot define a paradigm simply
by telling what it is against, otherwise orthodox Satanism might be something
less of a joke. So what are the witches about? The divinity of Self. You
hear alot about the "God and Goddess" in those airy neo-pagan circles,
but I feel that the root of the issue (from which the neos take their tripe)
comes down to the idea of Archetypes. Within every human being, there are
five basic Archetypes, corresponding to the two "gods" and three goddesses"
of pagan myth -- The Hunter/Lawgiver, the Trickster/Wild One; the Maiden/Huntress,
the Mother/Nurturer, and the Crone/Initiator. When recognized, honored,
purified, sacrificed to, and finally merged with, these parts of the Self
can bestow great understanding and mastery of one's own life and freedom.
Not to mention joy (this is where witches relate to the ecstatics and their
concept of Ananda). This leads to what the Sleepers call "magick", but
to most witches this is but a natural side-effect of having merged with
the deities who are the heart and soul of the world.
NOTABLE WYCK
SOCIETIES
Witches are known for their fierce independance, and rarely form societies.
Even the fabled "covens" are more of a misleading holdover from the activities
of the Hermetic Houses Thig and Ex Miscellanea in the 1800s; it is the
ceremonialists who seek structured groups and who work co-operative magicks.
The witches, like many primals, prefer to work in solitude -- usually gathering
with other witches no more often than every full moon, or as infrequently
as every year at October's full moon. Though their somewhat forced
interaction with the ceremonialists in Europe's Dark Ages has given many
witches a more ritualistic bent than they had before, they are still very
much rooted in the immediate and the practical, caring less for symbolism
than for what is. Unlike the ceremonialist "witches,"
the Primal Wyckae prefer the dark and savage Primal Umbra to the crystalline
and cerebral Astral. Unlike the Hermetic Witches, who still need
years of scholastic study and a backpack full of mystick paraphernelia
to work their magick, the Primal Wyckae can work most of their magicks
while naked in the middle of the wilderness.
Keep in mind as you peruse
the societies of the Wyckae that they are a notoriously reclusive and non-organized
group.
THE SHAPESHIFTERS -- Ultra-dynamic, often savage. Cunning warriors and spies. Almost ecstatic in seeking experiences. Instinctual, fierce, wild. The most notable of these witches are the loosely organized Wyckae known as the Lifeweavers.
THE FATES -- Dark, spiritual, judgemental. Prophets, secret-keepers, and guides, in touch with higher powers (dark gods, the Norns, Hecate, Lilith). Familiar with the World Tree and the Wyck Paths. Get on well with some Chakravanti and shamans. The best known of these witches are the Twisters of Fate, and the death-witches known as the Aided.
THE NEO-PAGANS -- Progressive, turning the old teachings to the modern world. Teachers, healers, social reformists. Still use fluids, herbs, etc. as foci, still work with Primal Umbra instead of Astral, still work with passions, shadows, "wrong" things and feelings. Get on well with most ecstatics. The best known are the mostly American and British group known as the Moon-Seekers, who work to support the resurgence of Mythic Threads through the New Age and modern occultism. Compare with the Ceremonialists: Ritual Witches.
THE TRADITIONALISTS -- Mostly in Europe,
some in New England. They seek to preserve the histories and old
ways against change, corruption, and loss. They avoid forming large
or spread-out groups -- stick with teaching and working with their families.
Most resent the Neo-Pagan types, and many of them hate the Order of Hermes.
They focus on the past, on ancestors, traditions, histories, and ancient
tales.
A
TYPICAL WYCK GATHERING
My Samhuine with the Wyck:
I was backpacking through Europe, just after dropping out of college; I
had just left Prague a few weeks before, and was arriving in London when
I saw him. He was small, but looked strong, dressed all sombrely
in black, like he was going to a funeral. His hair was black as coal
and his eyes were green, and those eyes...they passed over me once, hardly
a glance but I felt it like a shockwave. He was a wolf in city clothing,
a savage who walked among men. I think I loved him then. I've
always been stupid about that with strangers.
We were entering ...
FAMOUS WYCK
GATHERING-PLACES
Stonehenge
in southern England was once a powerful place for the Wyck, a place where
they went to draw upon the powerful energies tapped by the ancients, and
to make contact with the land of Faerie and its strange inhabitants.
The Black Forest
in Poland is one of the oldest gathering-spots for the Wyck, its world-tree
bearing the bloody marks from millennia of ritual sacrifice and celebration.
SPHERE PARADIGMS
-- Primordialism & Blood-Magick
Unlike the ecstatics, the Wyck do not pursue sexuality so much as an enjoyable
experience as a life-celebrating means of reproduction, a natural enactment
of the continual cycles that occur in each human, as well as in the world
and the entire cosmos. The rise and fall of the god in orgasmic
release and death that fertilizes, the symbolism of the fertile woman as
the earth goddess. The sexual fluids focus the energies of life,
passion, and power quite well, and the blood of a woman's menses is especially
powerful.
Blood itself carries the
legacy of the Wyck, even that of Sleepers whose blood is too weak to Awaken.
As the vampires know, blood is power; to the Wyckae, every Blood Point
(normal humans have 10, children 3-5, animals 1-3) counts as one point
of quintessence. Most witches use their own blood, but are not above
using animal blood-sacrifice in times of need. The blood-sacrifice
of humans is used only in times of direst need -- such as when the king
must die to save the land -- and only when the sacrificial party agrees
to the sacrifice.
BACKGROUNDS
& ABILITIES
-- Spirits, Avatars, Destiny, Ascension
Familiar -- Wyck are among the most likely mages to have familiars
Avatar -- the Avatars of the Wyck almost always take the forms of
gods and goddesses, with one Avatar sometimes manifesting as many deities.
The next most common manifestation is that of the Self, when the Avatar
appears as a mirror of the mage -- sometimes older, or different in some
way, but definitely as the mage.
MISCELLANEOUS
DOCUMENTS
REALMS of the WYCK -- The Seasonal Realms,
Annywn & Faerie, The Wyck Paths (Null Zone), Midrealm, Asatric
THE PATHS OF THE WYCK --
mystick trails between the Otherworlds and the mortal lands. In most
places the Paths resemble rough trails worn through overgrown forests.
Thick mists shroud the surroundings, and an endless maze of branches and
fog blocks out all but the faintest bit of moonlight. In some places
the Wyck Paths become moonlight itself, and rise into the air. Most
Otherworld travelers would rather cross vast distances on foot than wander
these uncanny mystickal shortcuts; the journey is just too unnerving even
for most magi to bear. (See M:tSC, U:tVS Null Zone)
WYCK GATHERING-SPOTS
THE BLACK FOREST (POLAND, AUSTRIA, GERMANY)
one
of the oldest gathering-spots for the Wyck, its world-tree bearing the
bloody marks from millennia of ritual sacrifice and celebration.
THE TOWER OF WITCHES -- in Lindheim, Germany (?)
OLD WOMAN'S MOUNTAIN -- in the Carpathians, famous for the Sabbats celebrated there
GERMAN SABBAT-MOUNTAINS -- Huiberg, Koterburg, Horselburg
ITALIAN SABBAT-MOUNTAINS -- Paterno di Bologna, Tossale di Bergamo
STONEHENGE -- in southern England
was once a powerful place for the Wyck, a place where they went to draw
upon the powerful energies tapped by the ancients, and to make contact
with the land of Faerie and its strange inhabitants. now controlled
by the Hermetics, they allow witches to visit.
PERIPHERAL WYCK GROUPS
FAMILY CONSORS
& ACOLYTES
Family Consors are those who did not or could not Awaken, but have other
abilities and powers that are useful to the witch. This includes
shapeshifters, hedge witches, psychics, changelings, and even simply those
with a great deal of mundan skill or authority -- doctors, wealthy landowners,
survivalists,
Family acolytes are those Sleepers who know of the witch's true nature,
are basically familiar with witchcraft, and do not act as vulgar witnesses.
Some traditions dictate that a male must be taught by a female, or vice
versa; some say that males can only be taught by males, and females only
by females. These acolytes may eventually wind up Awakening, if the
Blood is strong enough in them. If not, they often go on to pick
up at least minor abilities in hedge-witchery.
WYCK FOCI
BLOOD / BODILY
FLUIDS
Unlike the ecstatics, the Wyck do not pursue sexuality so much as an enjoyable
experience as a life-celebrating means of reproduction, a natural enactment
of the continual cycles that occur in each human, as well as in the world
and the entire cosmos. The rise and fall of the god in orgasmic
release and death that fertilizes, the symbolism of the fertile woman as
the earth goddess. The sexual fluids focus the energies of life,
passion, and power quite well, and the blood of a woman's menses is especially
powerful.
Blood itself carries the
legacy of the Wyck, even that of Sleepers whose blood is too weak to Awaken.
As the vampires know, blood is power; to the Wyckae, every Blood Point
(normal humans have 10, children 3-5, animals 1-3) counts as one point
of quintessence. Most witches use their own blood, but are not above
using animal blood-sacrifice in times of need. The blood-sacrifice
of humans is used only in times of direst need -- such as when the king
must die to save the land -- and only when the sacrificial party agrees
to the sacrifice.
PLANTS & HERBS
WAND or STAFF
WYCK REALMS
THE AUTUMN CIRCLE
AN GIBLIN COILLE (The
SPRING COTTAGE)
WYCK ROTES (?)
CALL THE WYLD HUNT (Spirit 3, Corr.2,
Prime 3, Node)
WYCK LINKS:
TYPICAL
SHAMANIC GATHERINGS
FAMOUS SHAMANIC
GATHERING-PLACES
The Wheels of the Heavens
SPHERE PARADIGMS
-- The Umbra and Gaia
Using Spirit for Everything
BACKGROUNDS
& ABILITIES
Shapeshifter Blood
Tribal Lore
Reservation Influence
Third World Contacts
Nunnehi Allies
MISCELLANEOUS
DOCUMENTS
Northsong: the Shaman's Ties with Shapeshifters
PERIPHERAL SHAMANIC GROUPS
MEDICINE SOCIETIES
TERRORIST GROUPS (AIM, etc.)
SHAMANIC FOCI
DRUMS
CRYSTALS & STONES
DRUGS
THE FEATHER
SHAMANIC REALMS
THE SECOND WORLD OF THE DINE
SHAMANIC
ROTES (?)